Cure For Road Rage · Dec 25, 2007, 09:20 AM // 09:20

so head armour comes with +1 to an attribute. what's the difference between putting an attribute rune on the head and somewhere else? it's the same benefit in the end: +4 attribute, right?

RyXXed · Dec 25, 2007, 09:22 AM // 09:22

If you put it on the common armor headpiece, you get an extra +1 to rune's attribute.

A11Eur0 · Dec 25, 2007, 09:24 AM // 09:24

It's easy to keep the runes together. Many players have multiple headpieces for different builds. Warrior: strength and tactics. I also have multiple gloves for the weapon type.

Eles and monks are even more likely...fire, earth, air or water magic. prot, heal, divine, smite. It would suck to switch to an earth build from a fire build and switch out the headpiece to earth, but still have that fire rune on my feet when the vigor rune on the headpiece would be better suited there(and be more economical). Why have +1/2/3 to fire on the feet when you're using an earth headpiece and build?

Cure For Road Rage · Dec 25, 2007, 09:25 AM // 09:25

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Originally Posted by RyXXed

If you put it on the common armor headpiece, you get an extra +1 to rune's attribute.

but if i put the rune on my chest, don't i still get +4 attribute in the end? i'm so confused

A11Eur0 · Dec 25, 2007, 09:27 AM // 09:27

REad my post. Not his.

Cure For Road Rage · Dec 25, 2007, 09:28 AM // 09:28

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

REad my post. Not his.

my bad, you posted when i was answering his post. k, now i understand. thnx

RyXXed · Dec 25, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30

Thought he was asking about GW:EN headpieces. Oh well.

Basically, it's better to have your main runes on your headpiece so you can switch fast to something else.

gremlin · Dec 25, 2007, 01:49 PM // 13:49

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Originally Posted by quickmonty

If I'm reading this question correctly ...... You only get the benefit of the +1 on the headpiece if you put the rune on the headpiece. If you put a superior fire (for example .... could be any rune) on another piece of armor you only get +3. The +1 on the headpiece will not add to that unless you put the rune on the headpiece. Then you get the +3 +1 = +4

On your characters armour you have the +1 whether anything else is added or not.
Its +1 and then you can add any of the following runes +1 +2 or +3 if you wish.
Putting the +3 on any piece of armor works fine.
However the headpiece of Heroes only activates when you add a rune to it.

Unless there has been an update to character armour to make them the same as Hero armour and I didnt notice.

If you want to change the added + rune on hero headpieces for a different build just Us a superior salvage kit and remove the rune.
Done this 3 times without loss of rune, I assume its intended to be done this way.

edited to add "salvage to remove a rune you added to the hero armour I mean not the inate rune"

CyberMesh0 · Dec 25, 2007, 02:16 PM // 14:16

With heroes it's based on the rune itself. May happen with PvP characters too, but don't quote me on that one.

Yanman.be · Dec 25, 2007, 03:45 PM // 15:45

You put runes on the head so you get +4 on the head for let's say, markmanship, but when you go trapping, you want +4 for wilderness, so you swap to your wilderness headpiece with a sup wilderness rune on it.

Proff · Dec 25, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

You put runes on the head so you get +4 on the head for let's say, markmanship, but when you go trapping, you want +4 for wilderness, so you swap to your wilderness headpiece with a sup wilderness rune on it.

What he said, makes switching builds cheaper and easier, so instead of buying sets of armour for air magic, fire magic and earth magic you only need 3 head pieces that have the runes that boost those attributes.

Dante the Warlord · Dec 25, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Its all for the ease. There is no real purpose other then having different armors for different purposes, you get the same +attribute by attaching the rune anywhere.

MetalMan · Dec 25, 2007, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by quickmonty

WRONG! You ONLY get the +1 bonus on the HEADpiece! Unless all you who are saying otherwise have a different version of the game, the +1 bonus is ONLY on the headpiece and ONLY if you put a rune on that headpiece.

This is the correct answer.

Let me give an example -

I'm a warrior, and i want my headpiece to give +1 to axe mastery. Done.

But, now say i wanted to have +4 axe mastery. Using a superior rune, i can achieve that, but only if i put it onto my headgear.

If it was attacked to my headgear - +1 inherit, +3 from rune = +4
If it was put on, say, my gauntlets - +3 from rune, the +1 inherit is cancelled and not added in.

I hope that answers.

Njaiguni Blaze · Dec 25, 2007, 04:26 PM // 16:26

I think some of you are confused with the new function of headpieces. Headpieces you can attain in Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall, have a fixed +1. Headpieces in Eye of the North give nothing until a rune is put on it. If you put a protection rune on a headpiece from GW:EN, you get +1 (or 2 or 3, depending on what class of rune) from the rune, and the headpiece gets an inherent +1 prot.

Proff · Dec 25, 2007, 04:43 PM // 16:43

K I'll add on to what i said before I guess most people here only stick to one thing.

Say I roll as a fire ele most of the time so my armor would be like this:

Head: +1 fire magic, and +3 from superior rune
Body: +1 Energy management
Gloves: +50 Health from superior vigor

Now if I wanted to switch to an air build for pvp I would switch the head piece to make it like this:

Head: +1 air magic, and +3 from superior rune
Body: +1 Energy management
Gloves: +50 Health from superior vigor

This is done because you dont want a boost in attributes you dont use so something like this would be bad:

Head: +1 fire magic, and +1 energy management
Body: +3 fire magic from superior rune
Gloves: +50 Health from superior vigor

This works if you use one build but if you want to switch now you cant cause you'd end up with something like this:

Head: +1 fire magic, and +1 energy management
Body: +3 air magic from superior rune
Gloves: +50 Health from superior vigor

and that +1 fire magic doesnt do anything for ya.

Njaiguni Blaze · Dec 25, 2007, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Just keep your fire runes to your fire headpiece, air to your headpiece, domination to your domination headpiece, etc, etc. That's the most economic and easy way to switch attributes when switching builds.

gremlin · Dec 25, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by quickmonty

When the game started you could get headpiece with specific +1 attritbute. Any headgear that you get now (accept the holiday items) have a generic +1 attribute which is only good if you add a rune to the headpiece, then it becomes +1 of the rune's attribute.

And yes, easiest way to do it is multiple headpieces with different runes so you can switch, say, from fire to air, or death to curses, etc.

This won't work on heroes as you can't switch headpieces, but there are multiple heroes of each profession so it is not difficult to set up different builds on different heroes of the same profession. Then, just switch heroes.

Ok just to prove a point I went to Kamadan and bought a +1 blood magic headpiece for my necro.
Stripped off armour till blood magic read 12 in white
Put on the new headpiece and it read 13 in blue
ok
Headpieces in Prophesies nightfall and factions do have inate runes that work wether you add another rune or not.
They did before Gwen and still do today.
They sell all the different headpieces still.

So you are the weakest link goodby

A11Eur0 · Dec 25, 2007, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by MetalMan

This is the correct answer.

Let me give an example -

I'm a warrior, and i want my headpiece to give +1 to axe mastery. Done.

But, now say i wanted to have +4 axe mastery. Using a superior rune, i can achieve that, but only if i put it onto my headgear.

If it was attacked to my headgear - +1 inherit, +3 from rune = +4
If it was put on, say, my gauntlets - +3 from rune, the +1 inherit is cancelled and not added in.

I hope that answers.

Wrongo. Go to prophecies and get a +1 to something headpiece, and get a superior rune of that same attribute and put it on a cheap pair of gloves. YOu'll still get your +4 attribute.

I just did it. +1 beast mastery mask, superior beast mastery rune on a pair of gloves. +4 beast mastery.
http://www.a11eur0.com/gallery/d/5666-1/runes.JPG

Cure For Road Rage · Dec 25, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43

so it all depends on which campaign i got my headpiece from? so if it's Prophecies, the only reason to put the rune on my head is to make changing builds easier, whereas in GWEN it does give me an extra attribute point?

CyberMesh0 · Dec 25, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

The attribute point from the EotN headpiece is dependant on which rune you use, simple as that.

Dec 25, 2007, 09:20 AM // 09:20	#1
Cure For Road Rage Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2007 Guild: The Wayward Souls Profession: R/	why do we put runes on the head? so head armour comes with +1 to an attribute. what's the difference between putting an attribute rune on the head and somewhere else? it's the same benefit in the end: +4 attribute, right?

Dec 25, 2007, 09:22 AM // 09:22	#2
RyXXed Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2007 Profession: W/	If you put it on the common armor headpiece, you get an extra +1 to rune's attribute.

Dec 25, 2007, 09:24 AM // 09:24	#3
A11Eur0 Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	It's easy to keep the runes together. Many players have multiple headpieces for different builds. Warrior: strength and tactics. I also have multiple gloves for the weapon type. Eles and monks are even more likely...fire, earth, air or water magic. prot, heal, divine, smite. It would suck to switch to an earth build from a fire build and switch out the headpiece to earth, but still have that fire rune on my feet when the vigor rune on the headpiece would be better suited there(and be more economical). Why have +1/2/3 to fire on the feet when you're using an earth headpiece and build?

Dec 25, 2007, 09:27 AM // 09:27	#5
A11Eur0 Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	REad my post. Not his.

Dec 25, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30	#7
RyXXed Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2007 Profession: W/	Thought he was asking about GW:EN headpieces. Oh well. Basically, it's better to have your main runes on your headpiece so you can switch fast to something else.

Dec 25, 2007, 02:16 PM // 14:16	#9
CyberMesh0 Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV] Profession: N/Me	With heroes it's based on the rune itself. May happen with PvP characters too, but don't quote me on that one.

Dec 25, 2007, 03:45 PM // 15:45	#10
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	You put runes on the head so you get +4 on the head for let's say, markmanship, but when you go trapping, you want +4 for wilderness, so you swap to your wilderness headpiece with a sup wilderness rune on it.

Dec 25, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01	#12
Dante the Warlord Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/R	Its all for the ease. There is no real purpose other then having different armors for different purposes, you get the same +attribute by attaching the rune anywhere.

Dec 25, 2007, 04:26 PM // 16:26	#14
Njaiguni Blaze Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Netherlands Guild: The Biggyverse [PLEB] Profession: Me/	I think some of you are confused with the new function of headpieces. Headpieces you can attain in Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall, have a fixed +1. Headpieces in Eye of the North give nothing until a rune is put on it. If you put a protection rune on a headpiece from GW:EN, you get +1 (or 2 or 3, depending on what class of rune) from the rune, and the headpiece gets an inherent +1 prot.

Dec 25, 2007, 04:43 PM // 16:43	#15
Proff Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2007	K I'll add on to what i said before I guess most people here only stick to one thing. Say I roll as a fire ele most of the time so my armor would be like this: Head: +1 fire magic, and +3 from superior rune Body: +1 Energy management Gloves: +50 Health from superior vigor Now if I wanted to switch to an air build for pvp I would switch the head piece to make it like this: Head: +1 air magic, and +3 from superior rune Body: +1 Energy management Gloves: +50 Health from superior vigor This is done because you dont want a boost in attributes you dont use so something like this would be bad: Head: +1 fire magic, and +1 energy management Body: +3 fire magic from superior rune Gloves: +50 Health from superior vigor This works if you use one build but if you want to switch now you cant cause you'd end up with something like this: Head: +1 fire magic, and +1 energy management Body: +3 air magic from superior rune Gloves: +50 Health from superior vigor and that +1 fire magic doesnt do anything for ya.

Dec 25, 2007, 04:52 PM // 16:52	#16
Njaiguni Blaze Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Netherlands Guild: The Biggyverse [PLEB] Profession: Me/	Just keep your fire runes to your fire headpiece, air to your headpiece, domination to your domination headpiece, etc, etc. That's the most economic and easy way to switch attributes when switching builds.

Dec 25, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43	#19
Cure For Road Rage Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2007 Guild: The Wayward Souls Profession: R/	so it all depends on which campaign i got my headpiece from? so if it's Prophecies, the only reason to put the rune on my head is to make changing builds easier, whereas in GWEN it does give me an extra attribute point?

Dec 25, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11	#20
CyberMesh0 Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV] Profession: N/Me	The attribute point from the EotN headpiece is dependant on which rune you use, simple as that.