Dunkoro/Tahlkora secondary? - Guild Wars Forums

Absolute Destiny · Jan 06, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

Been picking secondary professions for my heroes today, and I was wondering what good choices would be for Dunkoro and Tahlkora, given that I've kept them at their original orientations (healing and protection, respectively)?

Remexx · Jan 06, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

I usually choose Rt or Me, there are some decent healing spells in the Rt class, including ashes. With Me, you can use energy signets to steal precious energy back.

kel77 · Jan 06, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

I'm not an expert at heroes or monks in general, but most secondary's can contribute something to a monk. The most important things you need are self defense and energy management.
Assassins have a good defensive stance in [skill]Dark Escape[/skill]
and [skill]Smoke Powder Defense[/skill]

Elementalist has [skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill] Make sure you have skills that cost more then 5 energy though; this would probably be more effective on the protection monk.

Mesmer's have [skill]Channeling[/skill] and [skill]Inspired Hex[/skill]
They also have two useful interupts that also function as e-management, however you must put the hero on "guard" behavior for them to work. They are [skill]Power Drain[/skill] and [skill]Leech Signet[/skill]

Warrior also has several good self defense stances in the tactics line, most notably [skill]Disciplined Stance[/skill] and [skill]Frenzied Defense[/skill]

Hope this helps

kel77 · Jan 06, 2008, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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Originally Posted by Remexx

I usually choose Rt or Me, there are some decent healing spells in the Rt class, including ashes.

Now that WoH can target the caster, there is less need for self heals.

MagmaRed · Jan 06, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Completely depends on the build. I often run only Monk spells on my Monk or my heroes. In this case, a secondary does nothing, and any will work. However, if I run a high energy build with skills like Aegis or Heal Party, I may run Mo/W for the glyph. If I need some energy help, I may run Mo/Me for skills like Inspired/Revealed Hex, Channeling, or the elite Mantra of Recall. Mesmer also offers some hex removal skills (like the above mentioned Inspired/Revealed Hex).

Normally, I don't give my Monk heroes a secondary, as I can get by just fine with Monk skills alone.

Squishy ftw · Jan 06, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

/E for [skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill]
/Me for any of those mantras (flame, frost, ..) or hex removal (inspired/revealed)

That's pretty much it for me.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 06, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

yeah whats been said pretty much.....however, when I got tahlkora first I made her a mm (since I didnt have one until olias was obtainable many quests/missions later) so many of my tahlkoras are mo/n--but they dont use the /n any longer. Most of mine are either /me or /rit while I do have a few /p for the shouts.

Smile Like Umean It · Jan 06, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Generally I got with /Me. Good for interrupts, energy management and hex removal.

Sometimes I go with /E for GoLE.

kel77 · Jan 06, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18

One more thing, protection monk heroes are generally not that good and a hybrid would be much better.

Coloneh · Jan 06, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53

I usually set them as /Me for Channeling (I play a melee character) and Signet of Recall (they use this very well)

MagmaRed · Jan 07, 2008, 03:40 AM // 03:40

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Originally Posted by kel77

One more thing, protection monks are generally not that good and a hybrid would be much better.

Protection Monks are very good, maybe you just need to use a good build. I always take 2 Monks for 8 man teams. 1 pure Healing with a condition removal (Dismiss), and 1 pure Protection with condition and hex removal.

kel77 · Jan 07, 2008, 12:26 PM // 12:26

Crap I ment prot heroes. Editing my post.

stuntharley · Jan 07, 2008, 12:32 PM // 12:32

For any pve monk, monk/e with Glyph of lesser imo.

Coloneh · Jan 07, 2008, 02:33 PM // 14:33

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Protection Monks are very good, maybe you just need to use a good build. I always take 2 Monks for 8 man teams. 1 pure Healing with a condition removal (Dismiss), and 1 pure Protection with condition and hex removal.

pure prot monks suck
pure heal monks suck alot
hybrid is ftw

MagmaRed · Jan 07, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

pure prot monks suck
pure heal monks suck alot
hybrid is ftw

I disagree. I run Dunkoro as a pure heal, with the following build. I take Lina/Kihm/etc. to run Protect usually. Now, when I am with a friend, and we have 6 heroes, I'll either take my Dunk, or if my friend takes a healer, I'll load Tahl for Prot.

[skill]Healer's Boon[/skill][skill]Ethereal Light[/skill][skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill][skill]Orison of Healing[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][wiki]Cure Hex[/wiki][skill]Healing Seed[/skill][skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

Now, he gets 15 Healing Prayers, 14 Divine Favor, and 4 Protection Prayers. I hate Dunkoro, because he makes my healing look like crap (AI is too fast - lol). Now, for Tahlkora, I vary her build a lot, depending on what I face, but typically it is this, with the elite changing.

[skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Guardian[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Shield of Absorption[/skill][skill]Watchful Healing[/skill]

Now, you will notice an elite is missing, as is one other skill. The last skill varies based on the elite I use. Usually its [skill]Remove Hex[/skill] or [skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill]. Elites I use for her are:

[skill]Divert Hexes[/skill][skill]Restore Condition[/skill][skill]Blessed Light[/skill]

I'd rather take a Healer who HEALs very well, and a Protector who PROTECTs very well. Hybrids work, but why hybrid in a place you have 2 Monks anyway? I only run a hybrid in areas with 4 or 6 player parties.

kel77 · Jan 07, 2008, 06:05 PM // 18:05

You guys are getting off topic...
Although the question got answered at least.

Coloneh · Jan 07, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

I disagree. I run Dunkoro as a pure heal, with the following build. I take Lina/Kihm/etc. to run Protect usually. Now, when I am with a friend, and we have 6 heroes, I'll either take my Dunk, or if my friend takes a healer, I'll load Tahl for Prot.

[skill]Healer's Boon[/skill][skill]Ethereal Light[/skill][skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill][skill]Orison of Healing[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][wiki]Cure Hex[/wiki][skill]Healing Seed[/skill][skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

Now, he gets 15 Healing Prayers, 14 Divine Favor, and 4 Protection Prayers. I hate Dunkoro, because he makes my healing look like crap (AI is too fast - lol). Now, for Tahlkora, I vary her build a lot, depending on what I face, but typically it is this, with the elite changing.

[skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Guardian[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Shield of Absorption[/skill][skill]Watchful Healing[/skill]

Now, you will notice an elite is missing, as is one other skill. The last skill varies based on the elite I use. Usually its [skill]Remove Hex[/skill] or [skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill]. Elites I use for her are:

[skill]Divert Hexes[/skill][skill]Restore Condition[/skill][skill]Blessed Light[/skill]

I'd rather take a Healer who HEALs very well, and a Protector who PROTECTs very well. Hybrids work, but why hybrid in a place you have 2 Monks anyway? I only run a hybrid in areas with 4 or 6 player parties.

because you dont need that many point in heal or prot to be effective, and 2 monks that can do both are better. there are only a few skills worth taking under either attribute anyways.

Quaker · Jan 08, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Absolute Destiny

Been picking secondary professions for my heroes today, and I was wondering what good choices would be for Dunkoro and Tahlkora, given that I've kept them at their original orientations (healing and protection, respectively)?

Do they need a secondary? That is to say, do you intend to do anything with them besides heal or protect?

MisterB · Jan 08, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

You choose the secondary profession for energy management among other things. Take elementalist for Glyph of Lesser Energy. Mesmer is pretty good, too.

Don't put [skill]Frenzied Defense[/skill] on your monk heroes.

Eldin · Jan 08, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01

I usually do mes just for an interrupt or some energy-related whatchamahoosit.

'Tis my traditional secondary on casters, aside from /Mo.

Jan 06, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37	#1
Absolute Destiny Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oklahoma City Guild: Forgotten Realms [FR] Profession: W/	Dunkoro/Tahlkora secondary? Been picking secondary professions for my heroes today, and I was wondering what good choices would be for Dunkoro and Tahlkora, given that I've kept them at their original orientations (healing and protection, respectively)?

Jan 06, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51	#3
kel77 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Deep South Guild: The Arctic Marauders[TAM] Former Leader and Officer \| [SMS] Alliance Profession: W/E	I'm not an expert at heroes or monks in general, but most secondary's can contribute something to a monk. The most important things you need are self defense and energy management. Assassins have a good defensive stance in [skill]Dark Escape[/skill] and [skill]Smoke Powder Defense[/skill] Elementalist has [skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill] Make sure you have skills that cost more then 5 energy though; this would probably be more effective on the protection monk. Mesmer's have [skill]Channeling[/skill] and [skill]Inspired Hex[/skill] They also have two useful interupts that also function as e-management, however you must put the hero on "guard" behavior for them to work. They are [skill]Power Drain[/skill] and [skill]Leech Signet[/skill] Warrior also has several good self defense stances in the tactics line, most notably [skill]Disciplined Stance[/skill] and [skill]Frenzied Defense[/skill] Hope this helps Last edited by kel77; Jan 06, 2008 at 06:54 PM // 18:54..

Jan 06, 2008, 10:18 PM // 22:18	#9
kel77 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Deep South Guild: The Arctic Marauders[TAM] Former Leader and Officer \| [SMS] Alliance Profession: W/E	One more thing, protection monk heroes are generally not that good and a hybrid would be much better. Last edited by kel77; Jan 07, 2008 at 12:27 PM // 12:27..

Jan 06, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43	#2
Remexx Banned Join Date: May 2006 Guild: BONG Profession: W/Mo	I usually choose Rt or Me, there are some decent healing spells in the Rt class, including ashes. With Me, you can use energy signets to steal precious energy back.

Jan 06, 2008, 08:25 PM // 20:25	#5
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Completely depends on the build. I often run only Monk spells on my Monk or my heroes. In this case, a secondary does nothing, and any will work. However, if I run a high energy build with skills like Aegis or Heal Party, I may run Mo/W for the glyph. If I need some energy help, I may run Mo/Me for skills like Inspired/Revealed Hex, Channeling, or the elite Mantra of Recall. Mesmer also offers some hex removal skills (like the above mentioned Inspired/Revealed Hex). Normally, I don't give my Monk heroes a secondary, as I can get by just fine with Monk skills alone.

Jan 06, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30	#6
Squishy ftw Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Your backline Profession: W/	/E for [skill]glyph of lesser energy[/skill] /Me for any of those mantras (flame, frost, ..) or hex removal (inspired/revealed) That's pretty much it for me.

Jan 06, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54	#7
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	yeah whats been said pretty much.....however, when I got tahlkora first I made her a mm (since I didnt have one until olias was obtainable many quests/missions later) so many of my tahlkoras are mo/n--but they dont use the /n any longer. Most of mine are either /me or /rit while I do have a few /p for the shouts.

Jan 06, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59	#8
Smile Like Umean It Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: E/Rt	Generally I got with /Me. Good for interrupts, energy management and hex removal. Sometimes I go with /E for GoLE.

Jan 06, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53	#10
Coloneh Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: D/W	I usually set them as /Me for Channeling (I play a melee character) and Signet of Recall (they use this very well)

Jan 07, 2008, 12:26 PM // 12:26	#12
kel77 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Deep South Guild: The Arctic Marauders[TAM] Former Leader and Officer \| [SMS] Alliance Profession: W/E	Crap I ment prot heroes. Editing my post.

Jan 07, 2008, 12:32 PM // 12:32	#13
stuntharley Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Guild: Critical Chop [cC] Profession: W/	For any pve monk, monk/e with Glyph of lesser imo.

Jan 07, 2008, 06:05 PM // 18:05	#16
kel77 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Deep South Guild: The Arctic Marauders[TAM] Former Leader and Officer \| [SMS] Alliance Profession: W/E	You guys are getting off topic... Although the question got answered at least.

Jan 08, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24	#19
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	You choose the secondary profession for energy management among other things. Take elementalist for Glyph of Lesser Energy. Mesmer is pretty good, too. Don't put [skill]Frenzied Defense[/skill] on your monk heroes.

Jan 08, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01	#20
Eldin Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: America. How about you, commie? Guild: Fellows of Mythgar [FOM] Profession: R/Mo	I usually do mes just for an interrupt or some energy-related whatchamahoosit. 'Tis my traditional secondary on casters, aside from /Mo.