Level 26 Flesh Golem? - Guild Wars Forums

Willy Rockwell · May 30, 2006, 12:47 PM // 12:47

In a PUG, a necro ridiculed my level 18 Flesh Golem and told me not to use it, that he had level 26 Flesh Golems and level 24 Bone Fiends. How is that possible?

Justin_GW · May 30, 2006, 12:53 PM // 12:53

A level 26 flesh golem is possible with 16 Death Magic, but level 24 fiends are impossible

gou · May 30, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08

if you have a death magic +1 item, then you will raise a level 28 golem if it kicks in.

Not had a chance to try it with the favour of grenth blessing that gives a further +1 to all necro attributes

VGJustice · May 30, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Basically what he's telling you is "You're a worthless MM if you don't have 16 Death Magic".

Which is just silly anyway, and would be even more silly if you were a Ritualist primary. Spawning Power should not be underestimated.

Eragon of Ileria · Feb 28, 2007, 02:05 AM // 02:05

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Originally Posted by gou

if you have a death magic +1 item, then you will raise a level 28 golem if it kicks in.

Not had a chance to try it with the favour of grenth blessing that gives a further +1 to all necro attributes

It is possible to get that Grenth's favor, Ghial's staff combo and I believe the level can go up even higher with the lunar fortune power that boosts all of your attributes by one. Here is an attached pic. of my lucky LV.29 Flesh Golem, took a while to get it!

xiaotsu · Feb 28, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54

There's an SS on here somewhere of a level 31 Flesh Golem. This was achieved by using a +1 weapon, the grenth favor, and the lunar token buff that gives +1 to all attribtues.

silara_jorinset · Feb 28, 2007, 10:29 AM // 10:29

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Originally Posted by VGJustice

Basically what he's telling you is "You're a worthless MM if you don't have 16 Death Magic".

Which is just silly anyway, and would be even more silly if you were a Ritualist primary. Spawning Power should not be underestimated.

True, though if we are talking about a necro primary, death magic is one of those attributes that is good to max out for an mm as it determines the level (and thus health and damage) of minions and the number controlled. If the op is using a level 18 golem it may be worth trying to get another point in death magic for 8 minions. But agreed you don't NEED max level.

Corinthian · Feb 28, 2007, 10:47 AM // 10:47

But it costs an arm and a leg!!!

Not to mention the damn insignia.

Tromador · Feb 28, 2007, 11:37 AM // 11:37

We don't know what level of character the OP was playing, however being as Flesh Golem is an Elite only capturable in Xaquang Skyway, we should assume a level 20.

Minions is something you want to concentrate on or not bother with. Either as a primary Necro playing a traditional MM you want as many as possible and as tough as possible. Even as a Rit using maybe minion bombs (as in http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:R...osive_Creation ) you want lots of them.

And that doesn't mean you can't split out to do other stuff. I have a build I like to play as a N/Me. Max death with Fleshy, Shambling, Fiends, Botm - then I add a few mesmer interrupts from Domination and prolly a res sig. I don't need many points in Dom to make the interrupts run, so I can still keep a decent amount in Soul Reaping.

10 max minions, plus I can shutdown the enemy necro who is stealing my corpses for his wells of annoyance or whatever.

Evilsod · Feb 28, 2007, 11:41 AM // 11:41

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Originally Posted by VGJustice

Basically what he's telling you is "You're a worthless MM if you don't have 16 Death Magic".

Which is just silly anyway, and would be even more silly if you were a Ritualist primary. Spawning Power should not be underestimated.

Stop been picky. Necro MMs should have 16 (or at least 14 is they can't afford the sup/major). Rit should have 12.

Theres no 2 ways about it, your a shit MM if you don't have it maxed. You wouldn't enter a GvG with 13 in Axe if you should have it 16 would you?

Guildmaster Cain · Feb 28, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

But a Rt/N MM wouldnt have Soul reaping, so no neverending supply of energy. A MM could just reanimate a new minion after the death of his old.

Anyway, Flesh Golem can be lvl 31! Just get lucky with Lunar Fortune, have 16 DM with runes/headset, use a Shrine of Grenth and have a +1 DM 20% item. DM 19 = lvl 31 Flesh golem ftw!

NickelPlate · Feb 28, 2007, 12:00 PM // 12:00

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Originally Posted by Willy Rockwell

In a PUG, a necro ridiculed my level 18 Flesh Golem and told me not to use it, that he had level 26 Flesh Golems and level 24 Bone Fiends. How is that possible?

As far as I know, lvl 24 bone fiends aren't even possible, either a typo or he/she is feeding you a line of bull. I have 16 death magic and I get lvl 26 golem and lvl 18 bone fiends. As mentioned, it is possible to get higher with things like a Ghial's staff or other mods that gives %chance to add +1 death, but IMO these generally don't happen enough to make it worth it and I prefer to use my Nightbringer for the health/fast cast bonus and give my Ghials to Master of Whispers.

Don't feel bad, before I got all the necessaries to get my Death magic to lvl 16, I had been in groups with other necros that criticized me too. Do what you want and have fun and ignore the idiots that think they know everything.

Yuhe Ji · Feb 14, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54

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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

But a Rt/N MM wouldnt have Soul reaping, so no neverending supply of energy. A MM could just reanimate a new minion after the death of his old.

Rits still have Boon of Creation though. That gives quite a bit of energy and doesn't only activate three times every 15 seconds (or whatever the soul reaping limit is).

Biostem · Feb 14, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02

Basically, if you are going to summon minions, then you need the most you can get and you need them to be as high level as possible. In the late game, you are facing enemies over level 20. If you are trying to combat them w/ level 12 minions, they will just get splattered en mass. At 16 DM, you get 18 normal minions, and a 26 golem, which can survive long enough to get the job done. Anything less, and you might as well just go w/ curse or even blood magic. Hell, you may be better off going rt as your secondary and just being a spirit spammer who has soul reaping to keep your energy topped off.

The only exception would be if you're going w/ a minion bomber build; in that case, a minor or major DM rune will suffice, and you can use the disposable minions for death nova fodder...

Game Master Guru · Feb 14, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Level 34 Is Possible

Huge Golem.jpg open this for proof

arsie · Feb 14, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Yeah, Death Magic is probably the most (and some say the only) attribute worth putting a Superior Rune for. Which is why it is so expensive. Everyone puts one on their MM hero.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Feb 14, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Stop been picky. Necro MMs should have 16 (or at least 14 is they can't afford the sup/major). Rit should have 12.

Theres no 2 ways about it, your a shit MM if you don't have it maxed. You wouldn't enter a GvG with 13 in Axe if you should have it 16 would you?

"I'm casting Searing Flames on Troll!"
Really do you need to insult the OP just because you disagree with him. Plus bringing 16 into any pvp if you are a warrior is just wrong.

L33TNeMiSiS · Feb 14, 2008, 08:01 AM // 08:01

quick question .. HOW THE HELL did Game master Guru get a Level 34 Golem?
Am I the only guy intressed in it here? A level 34 golem would require a something close to level 24 in Death Magic. Crazy stuff

BladeDVD · Feb 14, 2008, 08:36 AM // 08:36

How to lvl 34

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I've been able to make a lvl 34 flesh golem by stacking 3 (skill) consumables, getting a blessing, and +1 skills 20% wand

Since another Canthan new year rolled around, I added one Lunar Blessing to my last entry above, and the golem stayed at lvl 34. Looks like that's the max. BTW at Death Magic lvl 20 and soul reaping lvl 20 You get the following: lvl 34 golem (provided u get the 20% +1 skills), lvl 23 minions (provided u get the 20% +1 skills), 12 minions total allowed.

Have not tested or checked above, so I am assuming the quoted information is correct.

Rothaga · Feb 14, 2008, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Dang, thats a big golem.

May 30, 2006, 12:47 PM // 12:47	#1
Willy Rockwell Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005	Level 26 Flesh Golem? In a PUG, a necro ridiculed my level 18 Flesh Golem and told me not to use it, that he had level 26 Flesh Golems and level 24 Bone Fiends. How is that possible?

May 30, 2006, 12:53 PM // 12:53	#2
Justin_GW Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	A level 26 flesh golem is possible with 16 Death Magic, but level 24 fiends are impossible

May 30, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08	#3
gou Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: globally warmed england Guild: the discarnate	if you have a death magic +1 item, then you will raise a level 28 golem if it kicks in. Not had a chance to try it with the favour of grenth blessing that gives a further +1 to all necro attributes

May 30, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52	#4
VGJustice Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tyria, cappin' ur bosses Guild: Boston Guild [BG] Profession: R/W	Basically what he's telling you is "You're a worthless MM if you don't have 16 Death Magic". Which is just silly anyway, and would be even more silly if you were a Ritualist primary. Spawning Power should not be underestimated.

Feb 28, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54	#6
xiaotsu Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Doomlore Shrine Guild: Just Us Gamers [JUGs] Profession: R/	There's an SS on here somewhere of a level 31 Flesh Golem. This was achieved by using a +1 weapon, the grenth favor, and the lunar token buff that gives +1 to all attribtues.

Feb 28, 2007, 10:47 AM // 10:47	#8
Corinthian Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005	But it costs an arm and a leg!!! Not to mention the damn insignia.

Feb 28, 2007, 11:37 AM // 11:37	#9
Tromador Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Monks Unleashed [MU]	We don't know what level of character the OP was playing, however being as Flesh Golem is an Elite only capturable in Xaquang Skyway, we should assume a level 20. Minions is something you want to concentrate on or not bother with. Either as a primary Necro playing a traditional MM you want as many as possible and as tough as possible. Even as a Rit using maybe minion bombs (as in http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:R...osive_Creation ) you want lots of them. And that doesn't mean you can't split out to do other stuff. I have a build I like to play as a N/Me. Max death with Fleshy, Shambling, Fiends, Botm - then I add a few mesmer interrupts from Domination and prolly a res sig. I don't need many points in Dom to make the interrupts run, so I can still keep a decent amount in Soul Reaping. 10 max minions, plus I can shutdown the enemy necro who is stealing my corpses for his wells of annoyance or whatever.

Feb 28, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55	#11
Guildmaster Cain Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2006 Location: Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D] Guild: Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]	But a Rt/N MM wouldnt have Soul reaping, so no neverending supply of energy. A MM could just reanimate a new minion after the death of his old. Anyway, Flesh Golem can be lvl 31! Just get lucky with Lunar Fortune, have 16 DM with runes/headset, use a Shrine of Grenth and have a +1 DM 20% item. DM 19 = lvl 31 Flesh golem ftw!

Feb 14, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02	#14
Biostem Jungle Guide Join Date: Oct 2007	Basically, if you are going to summon minions, then you need the most you can get and you need them to be as high level as possible. In the late game, you are facing enemies over level 20. If you are trying to combat them w/ level 12 minions, they will just get splattered en mass. At 16 DM, you get 18 normal minions, and a 26 golem, which can survive long enough to get the job done. Anything less, and you might as well just go w/ curse or even blood magic. Hell, you may be better off going rt as your secondary and just being a spirit spammer who has soul reaping to keep your energy topped off. The only exception would be if you're going w/ a minion bomber build; in that case, a minor or major DM rune will suffice, and you can use the disposable minions for death nova fodder...

Feb 14, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18	#15
Game Master Guru Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Profession: Mo/E	Level 34 Is Possible Huge Golem.jpg open this for proof

Feb 14, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33	#16
arsie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Profession: N/	Yeah, Death Magic is probably the most (and some say the only) attribute worth putting a Superior Rune for. Which is why it is so expensive. Everyone puts one on their MM hero.

Feb 14, 2008, 08:01 AM // 08:01	#18
L33TNeMiSiS Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Graveyard of Undying Heroes Profession: E/	quick question .. HOW THE HELL did Game master Guru get a Level 34 Golem? Am I the only guy intressed in it here? A level 34 golem would require a something close to level 24 in Death Magic. Crazy stuff

Feb 14, 2008, 03:48 PM // 15:48	#20
Rothaga Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2007 Profession: D/W	Dang, thats a big golem.