Where Are People Getting All These Skills From? - Guild Wars Forums

RexAxyzun · Feb 27, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44

K, so I am not new to guildwars, i played prophesies long long ago, when it came out. After I beat it, I quit without playing PvP. When factions came, i played it, and also, quit. I didnt want to become a WoW like fat kid and whatever. Anyways I have never tried PvP, and im wondering if thats where people are getting these skills. Like get a bunch of faction and unlock this skill, then you can have it for free in PvP then buy it in the real thing. Is this how they get all these epic skills? Cuz i see these level 13 skill lists and their sweet. My skills are all crap.

Whats goin on yall?

Cheers mate.
Rex.

(PS: I am playing nightfall and have the EoTN Expansion which i have no clue what that is yet. I believe it is missions for level 20, extending from the prophesies stories.)

Agent Mold3r · Feb 27, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51

the farther you get into the campaign's the more skills you can get

the skills you probably saw are from nightfall

Covah · Feb 27, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by RexAxyzun

I didnt want to become a WoW like fat kid and whatever.

GW is a different game, don't bring WoW into this.

All skills are available at Skill trainers. The farther into the game you go, the more skills there are at the skills trainer. If you spend 1k balthazar and unlock a skill from the priest then all the skill trainers in PvE will have that skill. There are no "Epic" skills that pvpers get.

RexAxyzun · Feb 27, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by Covah

GW is a different game, don't bring WoW into this.

All skills are available at Skill trainers. The farther into the game you go, the more skills there are at the skills trainer. If you spend 1k balthazar and unlock a skill from the priest then all the skill trainers in PvE will have that skill. There are no "Epic" skills that pvpers get.

I mean people can buy it in PVE NOT PVP And i ment Elite not Epic.

Sorry for the WoW comment. I just didnt want to get super super addicted, whatever.

RexAxyzun · Feb 27, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

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Originally Posted by Agent Mold3r

the farther you get into the campaign's the more skills you can get

the skills you probably saw are from nightfall

I play nightfall, If you didnt read my message at the bottom.

Deathless Anthem · Feb 27, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

you're probably referring to tomes and elite tomes available in hard mode to obtain unlocked skills(bought on other characters or unlocked with faction in pvp)

RexAxyzun · Feb 27, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

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Originally Posted by Deathless Anthem

you're probably referring to tomes and elite tomes available in hard mode to obtain unlocked skills(bought on other characters or unlocked with faction in pvp)

Can you explain what these tomes are, how they work, etc?

oracleofwoe · Feb 27, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by Covah

There are no "Epic" skills that pvpers get.

True, But Ursan's has pretty much ruined High end PvE

Heavenly Messanger · Feb 27, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02

I'm sorry, but your post really pains me.

All skills are acquired from quests, skills trainers, capping, tomes, etc. Quite simple, in fact.

Each of the campaigns comes with new skills, usually unique to that campaign. Introduced in Factions, there are also PvE only skills. Their strength is based off of a Track Title you gain by earning reputation points swith certain groups/ races throughout the game. Ex: Luxon/Kurzick Skills, Sunspear/Lightbringer, Asura/Norn/Dwarven/Ebon Vanguard.

To obtain skills, i would recommend that you visit skill trainers, located in towns and outposts, labeled with (Name [Skills]).

Also, yes, you can unlock skills in PvP, with 1k Balthazar faction per skill, and 3k per Elite skill. This faction also goes towards unlocking runes, weapon upgrades, Zaishen Keys, etc. (all of these in PvP).

Once you unlock these skills, they are opened to PvE. So if you were to unlock Jaundiced Gaze, a Factions exclusive skill, you could visit any Factions Skill Trainer and it would be available. Whereas, if you hadn't unlocked it, and you were at Shing Jea Monastery, it wouldn't be available until you reached Kaineng Center.

Also, you can use a(n) (elite) tome to teach your character any unlocked skill, no matter what the campaign. These are drops from Hard Mode creatures, and will only drop corresponding to their profession.

izzywish · Feb 27, 2008, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by RexAxyzun

Cuz i see these level 13 skill lists and their sweet. My skills are all crap.

(PS: I am playing nightfall and have the EoTN Expansion which i have no clue what that is yet. I believe it is missions for level 20, extending from the prophesies stories.)

If you are seeing level 13 players with 'great' skill sets then it is quite likely they have played through the game on another char, or have unlocked them in PvP; they are then using Skill Tomes to unlock them on new chars.

EotN or GWEN as it is effectionaltely known isn't just an expansion to the Prophs chapter, but also a bridge between GW and GW2.

HTH

RexAxyzun · Feb 27, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06

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Originally Posted by Heavenly Messanger

I'm sorry, but your post really pains me.

Sorry. One more paining question, again sorry. I know people sell these tomes, but is there any required level when using tomes?

Heavenly Messanger · Feb 27, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10

Nope, you can use them at level one; Elite tomes run from about 4k (assasin) to 6-8k(warrior/ranger/dervish/paragon) to 10k (ele/mesmer/necro) to 12k (monk/rit). There are no restrictions =)

Normal tomes run from 300 (assasin) to 1k (usually monk/rit). The rest usually run from 600-800.

And sorry to sound harsh with the pain =). I don't mind explaining ;P

RexAxyzun · Feb 27, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

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Originally Posted by Heavenly Messanger

And sorry to sound harsh with the pain =). I don't mind explaining ;P

Haha its ok. I always thought these tomes were quest items for some reason, so thanks for explaining.

Whispering Siren · Feb 27, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36

And yet no one has explained the "usual" way of getting elite skills: go capture them off bosses in PvE. Look on http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Main_Page to find elite skills you're interested in, go kill the boss and use a Signet of Capture next to his dead body to learn the skill.

Tomes are expensive and take more time (with having to unlock skills via Bathazar Faction if you don't have the skill already). Also, it seems you are mainly interested in PvE: so go cap the skills and have fun with it.

P.S. Signets of Capture are bought from the skill trainer as well. There is a quest in each campaign that gives a free one and shows you how to use it, maybe you missed that quest?

Heavenly Messanger · Feb 27, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46

Ah ty, i had mentioned them in my original post and forgot to expand =)

kazjun · Feb 27, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42

If your new, I don't suggest using tomes. The first bunch of skills you buy from a trainer are real cheap, far cheaper than a tome. Tomes are only useful if you've bought enough skills that they are costing 1k each.

For elites, I'd suggest you stick to cap sigs (think there's a quest from the elder Jonah in marga coast that gives you 2 sigs free). Unless it's some elite that you simply can't do without, just wait till you get far enough to reach the boss and kill him and cap normally. No point paying 12k for something that you can cap yourself for 1k and some effort.

Most of the low level skill bars you see with good skills and elites are mostly from people who have played through before. They unlocked the skills (via pvp or pve) before so they skills are available from all skill trainers and elite from tomes.

RexAxyzun · Feb 27, 2008, 04:32 AM // 04:32

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Originally Posted by Whispering Siren

P.S. Signets of Capture are bought from the skill trainer as well. There is a quest in each campaign that gives a free one and shows you how to use it, maybe you missed that quest?

No im only level 15 and I think that quest is 18-20 right?

ShadowsRequiem · Feb 27, 2008, 04:37 AM // 04:37

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Originally Posted by RexAxyzun

No im only level 15 and I think that quest is 18-20 right?

There are some things called Elite skill tomes in the game now. You can have a lvl 1 warrior with every warrior elite if you wanted.

RPGmaniac · Feb 27, 2008, 04:58 AM // 04:58

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

There are some things called Elite skill tomes in the game now. You can have a lvl 1 warrior with every warrior elite if you wanted.

Tomes have been mentioned in like 4 posts already. Let's tell the OP about the more traditional method to capture skills.

The signet of capture quests are in Marga coast in Nightfall but once you hit the mainland you can buy them from any skill trainer.

Feb 27, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44	#1
RexAxyzun Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2008 Profession: R/	Where Are People Getting All These Skills From? K, so I am not new to guildwars, i played prophesies long long ago, when it came out. After I beat it, I quit without playing PvP. When factions came, i played it, and also, quit. I didnt want to become a WoW like fat kid and whatever. Anyways I have never tried PvP, and im wondering if thats where people are getting these skills. Like get a bunch of faction and unlock this skill, then you can have it for free in PvP then buy it in the real thing. Is this how they get all these epic skills? Cuz i see these level 13 skill lists and their sweet. My skills are all crap. Whats goin on yall? Cheers mate. Rex. (PS: I am playing nightfall and have the EoTN Expansion which i have no clue what that is yet. I believe it is missions for level 20, extending from the prophesies stories.)

Feb 27, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36	#14
Whispering Siren Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland	And yet no one has explained the "usual" way of getting elite skills: go capture them off bosses in PvE. Look on http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Main_Page to find elite skills you're interested in, go kill the boss and use a Signet of Capture next to his dead body to learn the skill. Tomes are expensive and take more time (with having to unlock skills via Bathazar Faction if you don't have the skill already). Also, it seems you are mainly interested in PvE: so go cap the skills and have fun with it. P.S. Signets of Capture are bought from the skill trainer as well. There is a quest in each campaign that gives a free one and shows you how to use it, maybe you missed that quest? Last edited by Whispering Siren; Feb 27, 2008 at 01:39 AM // 01:39..

Feb 27, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51	#2
Agent Mold3r Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Death Legion Of Cantha Profession: W/Rt	the farther you get into the campaign's the more skills you can get the skills you probably saw are from nightfall

Feb 27, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59	#6
Deathless Anthem Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2007	you're probably referring to tomes and elite tomes available in hard mode to obtain unlocked skills(bought on other characters or unlocked with faction in pvp)

Feb 27, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02	#9
Heavenly Messanger Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Looking for one >.> Profession: Mo/	I'm sorry, but your post really pains me. All skills are acquired from quests, skills trainers, capping, tomes, etc. Quite simple, in fact. Each of the campaigns comes with new skills, usually unique to that campaign. Introduced in Factions, there are also PvE only skills. Their strength is based off of a Track Title you gain by earning reputation points swith certain groups/ races throughout the game. Ex: Luxon/Kurzick Skills, Sunspear/Lightbringer, Asura/Norn/Dwarven/Ebon Vanguard. To obtain skills, i would recommend that you visit skill trainers, located in towns and outposts, labeled with (Name [Skills]). Also, yes, you can unlock skills in PvP, with 1k Balthazar faction per skill, and 3k per Elite skill. This faction also goes towards unlocking runes, weapon upgrades, Zaishen Keys, etc. (all of these in PvP). Once you unlock these skills, they are opened to PvE. So if you were to unlock Jaundiced Gaze, a Factions exclusive skill, you could visit any Factions Skill Trainer and it would be available. Whereas, if you hadn't unlocked it, and you were at Shing Jea Monastery, it wouldn't be available until you reached Kaineng Center. Also, you can use a(n) (elite) tome to teach your character any unlocked skill, no matter what the campaign. These are drops from Hard Mode creatures, and will only drop corresponding to their profession.

Feb 27, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10	#12
Heavenly Messanger Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Looking for one >.> Profession: Mo/	Nope, you can use them at level one; Elite tomes run from about 4k (assasin) to 6-8k(warrior/ranger/dervish/paragon) to 10k (ele/mesmer/necro) to 12k (monk/rit). There are no restrictions =) Normal tomes run from 300 (assasin) to 1k (usually monk/rit). The rest usually run from 600-800. And sorry to sound harsh with the pain =). I don't mind explaining ;P

Feb 27, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46	#15
Heavenly Messanger Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Looking for one >.> Profession: Mo/	Ah ty, i had mentioned them in my original post and forgot to expand =)

Feb 27, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42	#16
kazjun Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: HoVa Profession: W/N	If your new, I don't suggest using tomes. The first bunch of skills you buy from a trainer are real cheap, far cheaper than a tome. Tomes are only useful if you've bought enough skills that they are costing 1k each. For elites, I'd suggest you stick to cap sigs (think there's a quest from the elder Jonah in marga coast that gives you 2 sigs free). Unless it's some elite that you simply can't do without, just wait till you get far enough to reach the boss and kill him and cap normally. No point paying 12k for something that you can cap yourself for 1k and some effort. Most of the low level skill bars you see with good skills and elites are mostly from people who have played through before. They unlocked the skills (via pvp or pve) before so they skills are available from all skill trainers and elite from tomes.