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xron · Feb 27, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02

Hi,

My level 20 ranger/ele has only got 27 energy and I'm wondering what I can do to increase it?

I have spells for energy recuperation such as fire attunement.

I also know about runes, but seeing as you have to get a balance between health and energy the increase would be limited and a lot of characters have 70+ energy.

thanks

ZeAliX · Feb 27, 2008, 02:16 PM // 14:16

Well.. to raise your energy you should get some other insignias that gives energy. Beside.. 27 energy should be enough for a ranger anyway... Characters with 70+ energy are mostly elementalists which has energy storage as an primary attribute, just like rangers have expertise. Characters can get 70+ energy just by getting the right weapon.. I could easily get 80+ energy on my monk, but that would give me -2 energy degen which is bad.

Hope that helped a bit

Whisper Evenstar · Feb 27, 2008, 02:18 PM // 14:18

I would suggest you go for Radiant Insignias and Attunement runes on your armor, and then allocate points to your expertise attribute. This is a ranger's bread and butter: For each rank of Expertise, the Energy cost of all of your attacks, Rituals, touch skills, and Rangers skills are decreased by 4%. (from wiki)

Also - Fire Attunement only gives you a decent amount of energy back if you cast a fire magic spell, so it probably isn't helping you too much.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 27, 2008, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by xron

Hi,

My level 20 ranger/ele has only got 27 energy and I'm wondering what I can do to increase it?

I have spells for energy recuperation such as fire attunement.

I also know about runes, but seeing as you have to get a balance between health and energy the increase would be limited and a lot of characters have 70+ energy.

thanks

Play an Elementalist.

Seriously, if you're needing more energy for spells and using Fire Attunement, why are you playing a ranger in the first place?

ZeAliX · Feb 27, 2008, 02:26 PM // 14:26

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Play an Elementalist.

Seriously, if you're needing more energy for spells and using Fire Attunement, why are you playing a ranger in the first place?

Maybe he/she is new to the game

Akaraxle · Feb 27, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by xron

Hi,

My level 20 ranger/ele has only got 27 energy and I'm wondering what I can do to increase it?

I have spells for energy recuperation such as fire attunement.

I also know about runes, but seeing as you have to get a balance between health and energy the increase would be limited and a lot of characters have 70+ energy.

thanks

A ranger is perfectly fine around 30 energy, if he's using mostly ranger skills. Only Elementalists will ever have 70+ energy under normal conditions, casters can go above 50 with with energy insignias on armor and +2 energy runes; over that amount you have to equip +15 energy/-1 energy regeneration wands/foci/staves, but such mods should only be used for brief timespans when you're out of energy on your normal sets.

If you brought Fire Attunement, that means you're probably thinking about casting fireballs or - worse - meteor showers around, and let me tell you you should leave that job to your fellow Elementalists who can spare the energy and deal more damage with their runes. Instead, use your secondary to back up your profession's power: if you feel pyromaniac, getting ahold of a fiery bow and equipping Conjure Flame or Mark of Rodgort is a better choice than pretending to be a mage.

The Way Out · Feb 27, 2008, 02:29 PM // 14:29

27 is very low for a good Ranger. You should be around 32-35. Look into weapon swapping.

Nadasee · Feb 27, 2008, 02:31 PM // 14:31

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Originally Posted by xron

Hi,

My level 20 ranger/ele has only got 27 energy and I'm wondering what I can do to increase it?

I have spells for energy recuperation such as fire attunement.

I also know about runes, but seeing as you have to get a balance between health and energy the increase would be limited and a lot of characters have 70+ energy.

thanks

Use Energy runes and Insignias on the armor to get a boost.
All classes have a surten ammount of Max energy based on what skills they use and what they need to maintain. You wont get that mutch more on your Ranger.
And i suggest dropping the Fire skills if you use any other then Fire attunement. Like they say above, let the Elementalist do that part. (They can manage the energy)

Stormlord Alex · Feb 27, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35

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Originally Posted by The Way Out

27 is very low for a good Ranger. You should be around 32-35. Look into weapon swapping.

The best rangers can happily run 25 energy with a +5e bow on switch.
Energy management (14 exp. ftw) and not spamming like a retard > needing a high energy cap

Akaraxle · Feb 27, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Energy is nothing more than a buffer: what counts the most is how you manage it. If you're spamming your skills away without regard, whether you have 30 or 35 energy will only delay the inevitable out of energy *click* by a handful of seconds.

quickmonty · Feb 27, 2008, 02:36 PM // 14:36

27 energy us okay for a ranger. Use Expertise as your energy management. Get those high energy fire skills (and fire attunement) off your skillbar.

The Way Out · Feb 27, 2008, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

The best rangers can happily run 25 energy with a +5e bow on switch.
Energy management (14 exp. ftw) and not spamming like a retard > needing a high energy cap

Are you assuming he is a good player after asking the question he did? I am taking into account that fact that he is new to the game and will be spamming skills. Sorry!

xron · Feb 27, 2008, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Play an Elementalist.

Seriously, if you're needing more energy for spells and using Fire Attunement, why are you playing a ranger in the first place?

I'm not using it any more, was advised to as my secondary profession is elementalist but now have taken it off as I am only using 2 fire skills.

Thanks for the advice, I'm gunna try and get a new set of armour and affix those two types of runes.

nebuchanezzar · Feb 27, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25

I think that perhaps you are suffering some misconceptions.
Please excuse the upcoming text.
Everyone has 20 Energy.
Ranger, Assassin, and Dervish Armor adds 5 energy for 25.
Casters armor adds 10 energy for 30.
This is before runes or items/weapons.
Elementalists primary attribute of Energy Storage adds to their energy pool. In most cases they are the one who ping energy of over 70. However, other players can use wands and offhands that offer +15 energy at the cost of -1 energy regeneration.
As to energy regeneration that is class dependant also. Everyone has 2 pips(arrows if you will) of energy regeneration. Ranger armor adds 1 more for 3 total, and caster armor adds 2 more for 4 total. There are skills/spells to gain energy such as [skill]Blood is Power[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill][skill]Energy Drain[/skill][skill]Ether Lord[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill] and some of the Attunement spells are just some of them.

However, Expertise; a rangers primary attribute, is perhaps the best energy management in the game. It lowers the cost of skills in the first place. While having a huge energy pool may seem nice, it doesn't outperform Expertise in most cases. It sounds like you are trying to cast spells with your ranger which is not their forte.
Energy
Expertise
Those links may help more than any text wall explanation I can offer.
GL and HF

Quaker · Feb 27, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28

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Originally Posted by xron

My level 20 ranger/ele has only got 27 energy and I'm wondering what I can do to increase it?

Rangers don't generally have a lot of energy. My ranger only has 30. Rangers don't have a big problem with this because Expertise will reduce the energy costs for Ranger skills (but not Elementalist skills). So a R/E is bound to have some energy problems. If you really want to combine a Ranger with an Ele, it may be better to make an E/R instead.

The Meth · Feb 27, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33

As a ranger the only fire skills you should ever even think of using is Conjure Flame and maybe Mark of Rodgort.

Everything else should be in your ranger primary. Make sure you have at least 10-13 expertise, and if that is not enough get a zealous bow.

Expertise is incredibly good. An ele would gladly trade any energy storage for a form of expertise that worked on spells in a heartbeat.

Commander Ryker · Feb 27, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34

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Originally Posted by The Way Out

27 is very low for a good Ranger. You should be around 32-35. Look into weapon swapping.

A good ranger doesn't need a lot of energy points. A good ranger would put a lot of points in expertise and not have to worry about energy points. Something else that would help is a zealous bow, especially if you have barrage.

pygar · Feb 27, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

The best rangers can happily run 25 energy with a +5e bow on switch.
Energy management (14 exp. ftw) and not spamming like a retard > needing a high energy cap

/agree with Alex, and actually at 14 expert you can do with less...

I run with 25e normally and almost never run out of power.... I have a -5e +15%dmg mod on one of my bows and even at only 20e I dont run out very fast, and with conservative play I wont run out of gas with that bow either. I have a Zealous Bow with +5e and a sword and sheild that also will give me +5e, but really only need the extra energy when dealing with e-denial and somebody is stealing my power, or when battles for whatever reason take a really long time and go well past the 3 minute mark.

Expertise gives you a 40%-60% reduction in the cost of most of your skills, so you only need half as much energy as everybody else to be effective.... with a high enough expertise skills that say they cost 10e cost only 4e instead, and 5e only costs 2e. (and 2e on a zealous bow is pretty much 0e)

isamu kurosawa · Feb 27, 2008, 04:03 PM // 16:03

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Originally Posted by The Way Out

27 is very low for a good Ranger. You should be around 32-35. Look into weapon swapping.

Terrible advice. Rangers are more effective running higher hp than energy. With decent points in expertise and avoiding using skills rangers shouldn't use (such as most ele spells) a ranger shouldn't have energy issues.

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Originally Posted by The Way Out

Are you assuming he is a good player after asking the question he did? I am taking into account that fact that he is new to the game and will be spamming skills. Sorry!

Maybe he was assuming he's a player capable of improving. adding more energy does not solve a problem of energy use. Selecting more siutable skills and decent enregy management is, In this case rangers have access to one of the best primary attributes in the game.

ShadowsRequiem · Feb 27, 2008, 04:20 PM // 16:20

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

Terrible advice. Rangers are more effective running higher hp than energy. With decent points in expertise and avoiding using skills rangers shouldn't use (such as most ele spells) a ranger shouldn't have energy issues.

Maybe he was assuming he's a player capable of improving. adding more energy does not solve a problem of energy use. Selecting more siutable skills and decent enregy management is, In this case rangers have access to one of the best primary attributes in the game.

I agree that is pretty much awful advice to give to someone. Having 32+ energy is a waste instead of using raw HP. Energy regens no matter what(unless hexes and -1/15 weapon swaps) while HP does not.

Swapping from a 15^50 bow to a +5e bow is all you should need.

Feb 27, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02	#1
xron Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denbigh, Wales Guild: Zero Zero Profession: R/	Energy Increasing Hi, My level 20 ranger/ele has only got 27 energy and I'm wondering what I can do to increase it? I have spells for energy recuperation such as fire attunement. I also know about runes, but seeing as you have to get a balance between health and energy the increase would be limited and a lot of characters have 70+ energy. thanks

Feb 27, 2008, 02:18 PM // 14:18	#3
Whisper Evenstar Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NYC Guild: Governors Of Destruction [GOD] Profession: E/	I would suggest you go for Radiant Insignias and Attunement runes on your armor, and then allocate points to your expertise attribute. This is a ranger's bread and butter: For each rank of Expertise, the Energy cost of all of your attacks, Rituals, touch skills, and Rangers skills are decreased by 4%. (from wiki) Also - Fire Attunement only gives you a decent amount of energy back if you cast a fire magic spell, so it probably isn't helping you too much. Last edited by Whisper Evenstar; Feb 27, 2008 at 02:20 PM // 14:20..

Feb 27, 2008, 02:16 PM // 14:16	#2
ZeAliX Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norway Profession: A/	Well.. to raise your energy you should get some other insignias that gives energy. Beside.. 27 energy should be enough for a ranger anyway... Characters with 70+ energy are mostly elementalists which has energy storage as an primary attribute, just like rangers have expertise. Characters can get 70+ energy just by getting the right weapon.. I could easily get 80+ energy on my monk, but that would give me -2 energy degen which is bad. Hope that helped a bit

Feb 27, 2008, 02:29 PM // 14:29	#7
The Way Out Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In my peanut brain Guild: Zomg Zombies [OMG] Profession: Mo/E	27 is very low for a good Ranger. You should be around 32-35. Look into weapon swapping.

Feb 27, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35	#10
Akaraxle Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Italy Profession: E/	Energy is nothing more than a buffer: what counts the most is how you manage it. If you're spamming your skills away without regard, whether you have 30 or 35 energy will only delay the inevitable out of energy click by a handful of seconds.

Feb 27, 2008, 02:36 PM // 14:36	#11
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	27 energy us okay for a ranger. Use Expertise as your energy management. Get those high energy fire skills (and fire attunement) off your skillbar.

Feb 27, 2008, 03:25 PM // 15:25	#14
nebuchanezzar Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 功夫之王 Profession: N/	I think that perhaps you are suffering some misconceptions. Please excuse the upcoming text. Everyone has 20 Energy. Ranger, Assassin, and Dervish Armor adds 5 energy for 25. Casters armor adds 10 energy for 30. This is before runes or items/weapons. Elementalists primary attribute of Energy Storage adds to their energy pool. In most cases they are the one who ping energy of over 70. However, other players can use wands and offhands that offer +15 energy at the cost of -1 energy regeneration. As to energy regeneration that is class dependant also. Everyone has 2 pips(arrows if you will) of energy regeneration. Ranger armor adds 1 more for 3 total, and caster armor adds 2 more for 4 total. There are skills/spells to gain energy such as [skill]Blood is Power[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill][skill]Energy Drain[/skill][skill]Ether Lord[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill] and some of the Attunement spells are just some of them. However, Expertise; a rangers primary attribute, is perhaps the best energy management in the game. It lowers the cost of skills in the first place. While having a huge energy pool may seem nice, it doesn't outperform Expertise in most cases. It sounds like you are trying to cast spells with your ranger which is not their forte. Energy Expertise Those links may help more than any text wall explanation I can offer. GL and HF

Feb 27, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33	#16
The Meth Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2007 Profession: R/	As a ranger the only fire skills you should ever even think of using is Conjure Flame and maybe Mark of Rodgort. Everything else should be in your ranger primary. Make sure you have at least 10-13 expertise, and if that is not enough get a zealous bow. Expertise is incredibly good. An ele would gladly trade any energy storage for a form of expertise that worked on spells in a heartbeat.