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Hammer Drawn · Mar 11, 2008, 12:15 AM // 00:15

This is not intended to be a whiner thread, I just want your opinion.

I was recently *suspended* for an "inappropriate name". Yes it was me not a "friend"

The character has been on my account for over a year and a half and has over 2 million experience on it. Then out of the blue, my account was suspended for 72 hours. I don't really care about the suspension, just the fact of the timeframe involved.

So, my question to you is, Is it fair to suspend a player for a name after such a long period of time?

*edit* I am suspended not banned

sorry wasnt paying attention when I typed it up

Covah · Mar 11, 2008, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Someone saw your name, found it offensive and reported you. Thats all.

Bohya · Mar 11, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

Did you have to change your character's name or something? What was this 'innapropriate name' implying?

Btw I find it wrong that you are suspended years after you founded the name.

Hammer Drawn · Mar 11, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

The name was "Mhenlo Is My Biatch" - most people found it amusing, never had a complaint about it.

I still have 40-50 hours left on my suspension and then I either have to change or delete char.

quickmonty · Mar 11, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Not about being fair or unfair. You got away with it for over a year and a half. You got caught. Now you have to change the name.

There is no "statute of limitations" in the EULA

kunta · Mar 11, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Its pure bs. End of story.

Covah · Mar 11, 2008, 12:33 AM // 00:33

Just don't make characters with names that "could" in anyway be found offensive.

Lawrence Chang · Mar 11, 2008, 12:33 AM // 00:33

Unfair. I would understand if it involved something racist or sexist...

unless they can somehow relate to the word "biatch"...haha iono

Numa Pompilius · Mar 11, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

You wont need to delete the character, you'll get to rename it, so the 2M exp isn't lost.

For what it's worth I personally don't find "biyatch" offensive, but I suppose the world is full of easily offended people.

RavagerOfDreams · Mar 11, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

this is a dictatorship

if anet feels you had a naughty name (dont really think its bad myself but) then they can ban you all they want

**cosyfiep** · Mar 11, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

yeah we must follow THEIR rules, doesnt matter what we think---if someone else decides they dont like your name---its toast.

good luck with the rest of your 'time out'....

jonnieboi05 · Mar 11, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52

meh... you got caught and finally got nailed for it. what some-1 might consider "humerous" another person might find "disturbing". have fun making a better name. ^^

Bohya · Mar 11, 2008, 01:59 AM // 01:59

Bitch is a term for the female of a canine species in general. It is also frequently used as an offensive term for a woman, taken to mean that she is malicious, spiteful, domineering, intrusive, or unpleasant. This second meaning has been in use since around 1400.[1] When used to describe a male, it confers the meaning of "subordinate", especially to another male, as in prison. More recent variants of bitch are bitchy, ill-tempered (1925), and to bitch, to complain (1930).[1]

Sometime during the late 1990s or early 2000s, the term "bitch" became more and more accepted and less offensive, and is now very rarely censored on television broadcasts or otherwise. Prior to the term's general acceptance, euphemism terms were often substituted, such as "gun" in the phrase "son of a gun". More generally the term has also acquired the meaning of something unpleasant or irksome, as in the expression "Life's a Bitch".

Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biatch.

HawkofStorms · Mar 11, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

If you murder somebody, but get away with it and don't get caught for 10 years, you still go to jail.
Yes it fair, even if it took over a year to report you.

pamelf · Mar 11, 2008, 03:23 AM // 03:23

People are so pathetic. Seriously, why would you report someone for a name like that. I hate cry babies like that. They're probably the people who always ran to the teachers just because someone said 'shut up'.

I think there shouldn't be an immediate ban, but maybe a correspondence into if you thought it was offensive when you made the name, how many people have reported you, and a ban if you refuse to change the name after this. Banning without any discussion is just ridiculous. Especially for such a tame name.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 11, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bohya

Prior to the term's general acceptance, euphemism terms were often substituted, such as "gun" in the phrase "son of a gun".

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't the spellings "biyatch" and "beeyotch" always had a slightly other meaning than "bitch", and been more humorous than insulting?

Operative 14 · Mar 11, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57

I think there needs to be a definition of the difference between a 'Ban' and a 'Suspension.'

Your character is not lost, your time is not wasted. The only way this negatively affects you is that you get to have 72 hours to think up another witty name; an option many have stated they would pay for might I add.

So, is it fair? I'd have to say yes, because it doesn't affect you in a very negative way. And if at least two people found it nominally offensive (the reporter and the GM that looked it up) then I think there's enough reason to change it.

pamelf · Mar 11, 2008, 04:30 AM // 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't the spellings "biyatch" and "beeyotch" always had a slightly other meaning than "bitch", and been more humorous than insulting?

Correct... Thus the annoyance at the whiny little tattletale who got so 'offended' by this name they had to go running to mummy and daddy. Sorry for the negativity, but I REALLY hate behaviour like that.

HawkofStorms · Mar 11, 2008, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by pamelf

Correct... Thus the annoyance at the whiny little tattletale who got so 'offended' by this name they had to go running to mummy and daddy. Sorry for the negativity, but I REALLY hate behaviour like that.

Keep in mind that there are children playing this game.
It may not offend you and me (the family guy generation) but to a 7 year old, that is quite crude.

Ace2001 · Mar 11, 2008, 05:32 AM // 05:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

If you murder somebody, but get away with it and don't get caught for 10 years, you still go to jail.
Yes it fair, even if it took over a year to report you.

Eh...that seems wrong to me. I'm pretty sure theres a statue of limitations on evidence or something...but I can't find any evidence for that at all, so I'll just shutup now. D:

Mar 11, 2008, 12:15 AM // 00:15	#1
Hammer Drawn Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005	Fair or unfair? This is not intended to be a whiner thread, I just want your opinion. I was recently suspended for an "inappropriate name". Yes it was me not a "friend" The character has been on my account for over a year and a half and has over 2 million experience on it. Then out of the blue, my account was suspended for 72 hours. I don't really care about the suspension, just the fact of the timeframe involved. So, my question to you is, Is it fair to suspend a player for a name after such a long period of time? edit I am suspended not banned sorry wasnt paying attention when I typed it up Last edited by Hammer Drawn; Mar 11, 2008 at 04:59 AM // 04:59..

Mar 11, 2008, 12:18 AM // 00:18	#2
Covah Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ] Profession: Me/Rt	Someone saw your name, found it offensive and reported you. Thats all.

Mar 11, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24	#3
Bohya Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Vabbi Guild: Farming Crewuk [fcuk] Profession: D/	Did you have to change your character's name or something? What was this 'innapropriate name' implying? Btw I find it wrong that you are suspended years after you founded the name.

Mar 11, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26	#4
Hammer Drawn Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2005	The name was "Mhenlo Is My Biatch" - most people found it amusing, never had a complaint about it. I still have 40-50 hours left on my suspension and then I either have to change or delete char.

Mar 11, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27	#5
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Not about being fair or unfair. You got away with it for over a year and a half. You got caught. Now you have to change the name. There is no "statute of limitations" in the EULA

Mar 11, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31	#6
kunta Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2007 Guild: Mystic Spartans Profession: W/Mo	Its pure bs. End of story.

Mar 11, 2008, 12:33 AM // 00:33	#7
Covah Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ] Profession: Me/Rt	Just don't make characters with names that "could" in anyway be found offensive.

Mar 11, 2008, 12:33 AM // 00:33	#8
Lawrence Chang Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: United States Guild: [SOHE] Profession: W/	Unfair. I would understand if it involved something racist or sexist... unless they can somehow relate to the word "biatch"...haha iono

Mar 11, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40	#9
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	You wont need to delete the character, you'll get to rename it, so the 2M exp isn't lost. For what it's worth I personally don't find "biyatch" offensive, but I suppose the world is full of easily offended people.

Mar 11, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40	#10
RavagerOfDreams Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: somewhere over the rainbow.... Profession: A/	this is a dictatorship if anet feels you had a naughty name (dont really think its bad myself but) then they can ban you all they want

Mar 11, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45	#11
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	yeah we must follow THEIR rules, doesnt matter what we think---if someone else decides they dont like your name---its toast. good luck with the rest of your 'time out'....

Mar 11, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52	#12
jonnieboi05 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mableton, Georgia Guild: Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]	meh... you got caught and finally got nailed for it. what some-1 might consider "humerous" another person might find "disturbing". have fun making a better name. ^^

Mar 11, 2008, 01:59 AM // 01:59	#13
Bohya Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Vabbi Guild: Farming Crewuk [fcuk] Profession: D/	Bitch is a term for the female of a canine species in general. It is also frequently used as an offensive term for a woman, taken to mean that she is malicious, spiteful, domineering, intrusive, or unpleasant. This second meaning has been in use since around 1400.[1] When used to describe a male, it confers the meaning of "subordinate", especially to another male, as in prison. More recent variants of bitch are bitchy, ill-tempered (1925), and to bitch, to complain (1930).[1] Sometime during the late 1990s or early 2000s, the term "bitch" became more and more accepted and less offensive, and is now very rarely censored on television broadcasts or otherwise. Prior to the term's general acceptance, euphemism terms were often substituted, such as "gun" in the phrase "son of a gun". More generally the term has also acquired the meaning of something unpleasant or irksome, as in the expression "Life's a Bitch". Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biatch.

Mar 11, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20	#14
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	If you murder somebody, but get away with it and don't get caught for 10 years, you still go to jail. Yes it fair, even if it took over a year to report you.

Mar 11, 2008, 03:23 AM // 03:23	#15
pamelf Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Guild: Lost Templars [LoTe] Profession: Me/Mo	People are so pathetic. Seriously, why would you report someone for a name like that. I hate cry babies like that. They're probably the people who always ran to the teachers just because someone said 'shut up'. I think there shouldn't be an immediate ban, but maybe a correspondence into if you thought it was offensive when you made the name, how many people have reported you, and a ban if you refuse to change the name after this. Banning without any discussion is just ridiculous. Especially for such a tame name.

Mar 11, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57	#17
Operative 14 Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arizona, USA Guild: [OOP] Order of the Phoenix I	I think there needs to be a definition of the difference between a 'Ban' and a 'Suspension.' Your character is not lost, your time is not wasted. The only way this negatively affects you is that you get to have 72 hours to think up another witty name; an option many have stated they would pay for might I add. So, is it fair? I'd have to say yes, because it doesn't affect you in a very negative way. And if at least two people found it nominally offensive (the reporter and the GM that looked it up) then I think there's enough reason to change it.