Divine Boon - Guild Wars Forums

Sir Tidus · Mar 13, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

Guys, isn't divine boon a really good spell on a monk? If I put it on a monk hero, will his AI be able to use it correctly? Thanks.

anonymous · Mar 13, 2008, 04:18 AM // 04:18

Hold shift to cancel it and then click it manually. It should work like that, its how all other maintained enchantments work.

MagmaRed · Mar 13, 2008, 04:21 AM // 04:21

Heroes use Divine Boon just fine without disabling it. It is one of a few they use right. However, if you use Divine Boon, make sure you use a build that can handle the energy demends of it. Especially since heroes like to spam skills, instead of use them at an appropriate time. If you are wondering, the only other maintained enchantment I know heroes will use correctly without disabling them is Blessed Aura.

Sir Tidus · Mar 13, 2008, 05:08 AM // 05:08

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Heroes use Divine Boon just fine without disabling it. It is one of a few they use right. However, if you use Divine Boon, make sure you use a build that can handle the energy demends of it. Especially since heroes like to spam skills, instead of use them at an appropriate time. If you are wondering, the only other maintained enchantment I know heroes will use correctly without disabling them is Blessed Aura.

Thank you very much. Though isn't 2 energy cost per cast very little compared to the heal? -1 regeneration means that you lose 1 energy every 3 seconds. So it doesn't seem that costly to me. I'm not sure, am I wrong?

Stormlord Alex · Mar 13, 2008, 05:16 AM // 05:16

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

Thank you very much. Though isn't 2 energy cost per cast very little compared to the heal? -1 regeneration means that you lose 1 energy every 3 seconds. So it doesn't seem that costly to me. I'm not sure, am I wrong?

It gets costly. Spamming 7 energy spells on 3 regen hurts, fast. Essentially, Divine Boon requires speccing into a 3rd attribute line for energy management to run - you drop Healing Prayers for Inspiration or Blood Magic, and rely on Boon's heal to push red bars up.

You Look Grim · Mar 13, 2008, 05:16 AM // 05:16

heroes over exhaust themselves as is.
divine boon will make it faster, but is still useful
just get some energy management along with it.

i herd heroez use power drain well

Stormlord Alex · Mar 13, 2008, 05:23 AM // 05:23

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Originally Posted by You Look Grim

i herd heroez use power drain well

Mantra of Recall, too - they cast in on-recharge, without fail, so they're always getting the energy gain from it.

[skill]reversal of fortune[/skill][skill]guardian[/skill][skill]shielding hands[/skill][skill]mend ailment[/skill][skill]remove hex[/skill][skill]power drain[/skill][skill]mantra of recall[/skill][skill]divine boon[/skill]

With...
11+1+1 Divine
10+1 Prot
10 Inspiration

If I remember what my Talhk's bar was when she was still Boon

(slightly edited for Proph-only)

You Look Grim · Mar 13, 2008, 05:35 AM // 05:35

how come proph only?

HawkofStorms · Mar 13, 2008, 06:20 AM // 06:20

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Originally Posted by You Look Grim

how come proph only?

Because Tidus is a regular poster in the Q&A forum and said he only has proph.

For some history for you, yes Divine Boon was once really good on a monk. It was in fact the most popular monk build in the game prior to Nightfall being released (the addition of good monk elites like Zealous Benidiction). Divine Boon was nerfed significantly and used to be much better then its current version. It is still useable though.

MagmaRed · Mar 13, 2008, 12:27 PM // 12:27

A couple of notes about Divine Boon. Use 5 energy spells only with it, and do not use Signiets unless they are for energy management. DB won't provide its heal when using a signet, or if you use a non monk spell. So no Protective Spirit, no Aegis, etc. Don't use a 20% Enchanting mod weapon if you use Mantra of Recall (which is a great suggestion for an elite). You want it to end on time, not longer than normal. Consider using a Necro hero or hench that has Blood Ritual, as a hero DB Monk will almost definitely have energy issues.

Dark Kal · Mar 13, 2008, 01:43 PM // 13:43

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

So no Protective Spirit, no Aegis, etc.

Why not Protective Spirit? It should trigger it. Aegis doesn't trigger it because spells that do not target a specific ally will not trigger the healing bonus.

qazwersder · Mar 13, 2008, 02:17 PM // 14:17

He was referring to its 10energy cost

Dark Kal · Mar 13, 2008, 02:21 PM // 14:21

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Originally Posted by qazwersder

He was referring to its 10energy cost

Oh... ok then.

Sir Tidus · Mar 13, 2008, 03:54 PM // 15:54

Thanks guys, that's very interesting. You guys keep saying that heroes use up their energy very fast. While I noticed that this is true for Vekk (after a fight, he is always at like 10/70 energy). However, my monk hero Stonehealer is almost always at full energy at the end of a fight. Howcome?

The Meth · Mar 13, 2008, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

Thanks guys, that's very interesting. You guys keep saying that heroes use up their energy very fast. While I noticed that this is true for Vekk (after a fight, he is always at like 10/70 energy). However, my monk hero Stonehealer is almost always at full energy at the end of a fight. Howcome?

The best explanation would be that your team is uber and he doesn't need to heal, right? Sometimes heroes have been known to lag between spell casts, where the are waiting 3 or 4 seconds between casts even when party members need healing and they have energy.

Sir Tidus · Mar 13, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by The Meth

The best explanation would be that your team is uber and he doesn't need to heal, right? Sometimes heroes have been known to lag between spell casts, where the are waiting 3 or 4 seconds between casts even when party members need healing and they have energy.

Oh, why? That's weird. Anyway to get him to not do that? Also, are there any monk energy management spells? I don't want to pump up another attribute just for that.

GD Defender · Mar 13, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49

No worthwhile energy management in-profession, that's why monks use a secondary profession.

The Meth · Mar 13, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54

No, it seems to be a bug inherent to the monk AI. It just has pauses in casting every so often.

There aren't many good monk-primary ways to gain energy. You can give them Signet of Devotion (or signet of rejuvenation if you had factions) which gives them a free heal. Heroes can use Power Drain and Leech Signet pretty well, so you can try that out. Both are mesmer skills, inspiration line. Also, since I see you are looking for build advice on your warrior in another thread, let me throw this out: Succor is a maintained enchant that will give your monk +1 regen, but basically kill your own energy. If you are running an all adrenaline (or very near all adrenaline) warrior you could use that.

Sir Tidus · Mar 13, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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Originally Posted by The Meth

No, it seems to be a bug inherent to the monk AI. It just has pauses in casting every so often.

There aren't many good monk-primary ways to gain energy. You can give them Signet of Devotion (or signet of rejuvenation if you had factions) which gives them a free heal. Heroes can use Power Drain and Leech Signet pretty well, so you can try that out. Both are mesmer skills, inspiration line. Also, since I see you are looking for build advice on your warrior in another thread, let me throw this out: Succor is a maintained enchant that will give your monk +1 regen, but basically kill your own energy. If you are running an all adrenaline (or very near all adrenaline) warrior you could use that.

Thanks. So if I don't want to carry any energy management skills, should I not use divine boon then? Because as I said, my monk usually doesn't have an energy problem, so I'm not sure what to do. Maybe I should just go and try it out.

qazwersder · Mar 13, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41

You will have to have some energy management somewhere in the build, such as Mantra of recall, or run a hero with blood ritual.

If there's currently not a problem with your monk then maybe just keep him/her as he/she is.

Personally, if I wanted to change my monk build, i'd just try it. See if it works, if i doesnt you can always change him/her back.

Mar 13, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15	#1
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Divine Boon Guys, isn't divine boon a really good spell on a monk? If I put it on a monk hero, will his AI be able to use it correctly? Thanks.

Mar 13, 2008, 04:18 AM // 04:18	#2
anonymous Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006	Hold shift to cancel it and then click it manually. It should work like that, its how all other maintained enchantments work.

Mar 13, 2008, 04:21 AM // 04:21	#3
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Heroes use Divine Boon just fine without disabling it. It is one of a few they use right. However, if you use Divine Boon, make sure you use a build that can handle the energy demends of it. Especially since heroes like to spam skills, instead of use them at an appropriate time. If you are wondering, the only other maintained enchantment I know heroes will use correctly without disabling them is Blessed Aura.

Mar 13, 2008, 05:16 AM // 05:16	#6
You Look Grim Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: Ecnegilletni Laicifitra [朔mud]	heroes over exhaust themselves as is. divine boon will make it faster, but is still useful just get some energy management along with it. i herd heroez use power drain well

Mar 13, 2008, 05:35 AM // 05:35	#8
You Look Grim Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: Ecnegilletni Laicifitra [朔mud]	how come proph only?

Mar 13, 2008, 12:27 PM // 12:27	#10
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	A couple of notes about Divine Boon. Use 5 energy spells only with it, and do not use Signiets unless they are for energy management. DB won't provide its heal when using a signet, or if you use a non monk spell. So no Protective Spirit, no Aegis, etc. Don't use a 20% Enchanting mod weapon if you use Mantra of Recall (which is a great suggestion for an elite). You want it to end on time, not longer than normal. Consider using a Necro hero or hench that has Blood Ritual, as a hero DB Monk will almost definitely have energy issues.

Mar 13, 2008, 02:17 PM // 14:17	#12
qazwersder Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: I'll be looking soon Profession: E/	He was referring to its 10energy cost

Mar 13, 2008, 03:54 PM // 15:54	#14
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Thanks guys, that's very interesting. You guys keep saying that heroes use up their energy very fast. While I noticed that this is true for Vekk (after a fight, he is always at like 10/70 energy). However, my monk hero Stonehealer is almost always at full energy at the end of a fight. Howcome?

Mar 13, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49	#17
GD Defender Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Profession: A/	No worthwhile energy management in-profession, that's why monks use a secondary profession.

Mar 13, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54	#18
The Meth Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2007 Profession: R/	No, it seems to be a bug inherent to the monk AI. It just has pauses in casting every so often. There aren't many good monk-primary ways to gain energy. You can give them Signet of Devotion (or signet of rejuvenation if you had factions) which gives them a free heal. Heroes can use Power Drain and Leech Signet pretty well, so you can try that out. Both are mesmer skills, inspiration line. Also, since I see you are looking for build advice on your warrior in another thread, let me throw this out: Succor is a maintained enchant that will give your monk +1 regen, but basically kill your own energy. If you are running an all adrenaline (or very near all adrenaline) warrior you could use that.

Mar 13, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41	#20
qazwersder Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: I'll be looking soon Profession: E/	You will have to have some energy management somewhere in the build, such as Mantra of recall, or run a hero with blood ritual. If there's currently not a problem with your monk then maybe just keep him/her as he/she is. Personally, if I wanted to change my monk build, i'd just try it. See if it works, if i doesnt you can always change him/her back.