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Kiragi Yagami · Mar 30, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48

heres a little question for you all. which of the following pairs is harder, and how long would they roughly take (with an average team) on NM?

The Deep/Urgoz,

UW/FoW.

and also, how long would a full DoA or Sorrows Furnace run take?

just a few questions from someone who does very little elite-mission-content and is looking to get those statues for his HoM.

matsif · Mar 30, 2008, 03:07 AM // 03:07

FoW can be done in under 2 hours if a good group, same with UW

not sure on the other 2 cause I just recently got factions and havent tried any of them yet

Hott Bill · Mar 30, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Deep = 1.5 hours HM with a group. (Slow actually)
Urgozs = 4 hours HM

dragguslayer · Mar 30, 2008, 03:16 AM // 03:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiragi Yagami

heres a little question for you all. which of the following pairs is harder, and how long would they roughly take (with an average team) on NM?

The Deep/Urgoz,

UW/FoW.

and also, how long would a full DoA or Sorrows Furnace run take?

just a few questions from someone who does very little elite-mission-content and is looking to get those statues for his HoM.

UW with a decent pug = 1:30 - 2:00h (HM)
FoW with a decent pug = 1:00h - 1:30h (HM)
(assuming cons are used and ursanway, which is the fastest+easiest to learn)

Kerwyn Nasilan · Mar 30, 2008, 03:23 AM // 03:23

well some of them elitist

in the other threads have posted Urgoz times of under an hour deep/UW/FoW as well. DoA 2 hours for a full run with good grp NM

Arkantos · Mar 30, 2008, 03:28 AM // 03:28

Not sure what would be more difficult between deep and urgoz, but UW is definitely harder then FoW, although it's not that hard.

All the run times will differ. If you're playing with good players, you can complete all 4 in under an hour each. With bad players UW/FoW can take over 2 hours, and urgoz and deep can take longer. DoA can be completed in 2 hours with a decent group, it can take over 4 hours with a bad one.

DarkFlame · Mar 30, 2008, 03:39 AM // 03:39

60-70 minutes for Deep/Urgoz in NM with pugs using cookie cutter team builds(you can find them on PvX). Faster if your group knows what they are doing, slower if you find idiots to play with. Can't speak for UW/FoW as I haven't done all the quests at once yet for the statues, but they are definitely the tougher pair as you have a smaller team and its a lot easier to get thrown out because of stupid npcs.

SF takes a few hours as there are multiple quests you have to take before getting into the final area(when playing normally). Though if you're tagging alone with someone else completing said quest, you can get it done in a little over an hour. DOA averages 2-3.

Btw Urgoz is dead so bring your own guild/friends if you want to play there. And Ursan(even if its hated) and consumables make UW/FoW/DOA a lot quicker. Don't know how well Ursan works in Deep/Urgoz and near anything can work in SF

Konig Des Todes · Mar 30, 2008, 06:28 AM // 06:28

I find UW harder then FoW, not by much though. And cannot say for Urgoz/Deep as I have yet to do the Deep or finish Urgoz*dang that noob warrior (with half of his armor off might I add)who screwed us up at the bridge with the mobbing wardens*

@DarkFlame
I never did Ursan in Urgoz but my guild did once *I wasn't on then

* and they said they did it in about 50min. (they had 3 monks, rest ursan)

Richardt · Mar 30, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15

FoW is about 2 hours with a good group. The biggest time waster here though is going back and forth between various NPC's and getting quest rewards. We tested this and found that on average you can save about 45 minutes by getting the rewards at the end.

Deep is pretty easy-just bring something to knockdown Kanaxai. A good team will do this in about an hour.

Urgoz is about 2 hours I would say-it's a maze with lots of popups, so it's annoying.

With practice and the right team build you can bring these times down easily.

jiggles · Mar 30, 2008, 10:50 AM // 10:50

FoW- about 2 hours dpeending on experience etc
UW- same really
Deep- i used to do it in about 1 and a half hours with PUG's
Urgoz -about 3 hours

English Warrior · Mar 30, 2008, 11:26 AM // 11:26

FoW-2Hours depends on team
UW- 2Hours 30Mins depends on team
Deep-1-2 Hours depends on team
Urgoz 2 hours with good team.

it all depends on your teams.

Kiragi Yagami · Mar 30, 2008, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Thank You all for your input, i think ill try to get a group set up for Urgoz/Deep once i get to that point on my Ele. UW/FoW will probably be the ones i do first, then DoA, then SF, then Deep, then Urgoz. (people have said Urgoz can take up to 4 hours -.- NOT looking forward to that :P)

Malice Black · Mar 30, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37

FoW/UW generally rewards you with better drops (ecto/shards) + the chance of getting an Eternal Blade/Ob sword form their respective end chests.

Squishy ftw · Mar 30, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiragi Yagami

(people have said Urgoz can take up to 4 hours -.- NOT looking forward to that :P)

FoW/UW can also take up to 4 hours if your party is awful.
I don't even know how people get this 4 hour time because the first time I finished urgoz it took 2h 40min, and that was with 9 heros...
So I strongly doubt it'll ever take more than 3 hours.(NM this is.)

Unholy Tank V · Mar 30, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08

My guild was able to Ursan Urgoz HM in 35 Minutes, but we specialize in that area and everyone knows it like the back of their hands.

Mar 30, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48	#1
Kiragi Yagami Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Elician Mercinaries [eLm] Leader. Profession: E/Me	Deep vs Urgoz, UW vs FoW... heres a little question for you all. which of the following pairs is harder, and how long would they roughly take (with an average team) on NM? The Deep/Urgoz, UW/FoW. and also, how long would a full DoA or Sorrows Furnace run take? just a few questions from someone who does very little elite-mission-content and is looking to get those statues for his HoM.

Mar 30, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37	#13
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	FoW/UW generally rewards you with better drops (ecto/shards) + the chance of getting an Eternal Blade/Ob sword form their respective end chests. __________________ Old Skool '05

Mar 30, 2008, 03:07 AM // 03:07	#2
matsif Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Warriors of Factions [WOF] Profession: E/Me	FoW can be done in under 2 hours if a good group, same with UW not sure on the other 2 cause I just recently got factions and havent tried any of them yet

Mar 30, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15	#3
Hott Bill Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: Shards of a Broken Crown Profession: R/	Deep = 1.5 hours HM with a group. (Slow actually) Urgozs = 4 hours HM

Mar 30, 2008, 03:23 AM // 03:23	#5
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	well some of them elitist in the other threads have posted Urgoz times of under an hour deep/UW/FoW as well. DoA 2 hours for a full run with good grp NM

Mar 30, 2008, 03:28 AM // 03:28	#6
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	Not sure what would be more difficult between deep and urgoz, but UW is definitely harder then FoW, although it's not that hard. All the run times will differ. If you're playing with good players, you can complete all 4 in under an hour each. With bad players UW/FoW can take over 2 hours, and urgoz and deep can take longer. DoA can be completed in 2 hours with a decent group, it can take over 4 hours with a bad one.

Mar 30, 2008, 03:39 AM // 03:39	#7
DarkFlame Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ascalon Profession: E/	60-70 minutes for Deep/Urgoz in NM with pugs using cookie cutter team builds(you can find them on PvX). Faster if your group knows what they are doing, slower if you find idiots to play with. Can't speak for UW/FoW as I haven't done all the quests at once yet for the statues, but they are definitely the tougher pair as you have a smaller team and its a lot easier to get thrown out because of stupid npcs. SF takes a few hours as there are multiple quests you have to take before getting into the final area(when playing normally). Though if you're tagging alone with someone else completing said quest, you can get it done in a little over an hour. DOA averages 2-3. Btw Urgoz is dead so bring your own guild/friends if you want to play there. And Ursan(even if its hated) and consumables make UW/FoW/DOA a lot quicker. Don't know how well Ursan works in Deep/Urgoz and near anything can work in SF

Mar 30, 2008, 06:28 AM // 06:28	#8
Konig Des Todes Ooo, pretty flower Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Citadel of the Decayed Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore] Profession: N/	I find UW harder then FoW, not by much though. And cannot say for Urgoz/Deep as I have yet to do the Deep or finish Urgozdang that noob warrior (with half of his armor off might I add)who screwed us up at the bridge with the mobbing wardens @DarkFlame I never did Ursan in Urgoz but my guild did once I wasn't on then and they said they did it in about 50min. (they had 3 monks, rest ursan)

Mar 30, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15	#9
Richardt Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: http://friendsofloa.com/forum Guild: Leader-Legion of Avalon [LoA] Alliance-Recruiting PM for info!	FoW is about 2 hours with a good group. The biggest time waster here though is going back and forth between various NPC's and getting quest rewards. We tested this and found that on average you can save about 45 minutes by getting the rewards at the end. Deep is pretty easy-just bring something to knockdown Kanaxai. A good team will do this in about an hour. Urgoz is about 2 hours I would say-it's a maze with lots of popups, so it's annoying. With practice and the right team build you can bring these times down easily.

Mar 30, 2008, 10:50 AM // 10:50	#10
jiggles Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: N/	FoW- about 2 hours dpeending on experience etc UW- same really Deep- i used to do it in about 1 and a half hours with PUG's Urgoz -about 3 hours

Mar 30, 2008, 11:26 AM // 11:26	#11
English Warrior LEET HAXXOR! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Random Arena Profession: N/A	FoW-2Hours depends on team UW- 2Hours 30Mins depends on team Deep-1-2 Hours depends on team Urgoz 2 hours with good team. it all depends on your teams.

Mar 30, 2008, 04:32 PM // 16:32	#12
Kiragi Yagami Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Elician Mercinaries [eLm] Leader. Profession: E/Me	Thank You all for your input, i think ill try to get a group set up for Urgoz/Deep once i get to that point on my Ele. UW/FoW will probably be the ones i do first, then DoA, then SF, then Deep, then Urgoz. (people have said Urgoz can take up to 4 hours -.- NOT looking forward to that :P)

Mar 30, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08	#15
Unholy Tank V Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Profession: Mo/	My guild was able to Ursan Urgoz HM in 35 Minutes, but we specialize in that area and everyone knows it like the back of their hands.