Eles with...swords??? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Bigger Redd · Mar 30, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Also, since Ursan Blessing, everyone is a potential frontline character. Swords help keep the damage coming

Jam Jar · Mar 31, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

Or you can have a E/W who's trying to be suicidal.

RPGmaniac · Mar 31, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05

Also monsters in PvE will only put hexes like Backfire on people wielding caster weapons and spells like empathy on people wielding martial weapons. An ele with a sword prevents those kinds of hexes.

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If you switch weapons, then wouldn't it be better to have a sword pommel of defense? Because if you put the sword away, then you lose all the health bonus, resulting in a absolutely no benefit at all (same as if you never had that health bonus in the first place). But if you have armor instead, then that armor bonus would have prevented damage before you put your sword away. This is why I think conditional health boosts are worthless.

Why would it matter? You're losing the armor bonus too by switching weapons.

Sir Tidus · Mar 31, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

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Originally Posted by RPGmaniac

Also monsters in PvE will only put hexes like Backfire on people wielding caster weapons and spells like empathy on people wielding martial weapons. An ele with a sword prevents those kinds of hexes.

Why would it matter? You're losing the armor bonus too by switching weapons.

Right, but your armor bonus helped in reducing damage while you had it equiped. The health bonus, however, would not have helped AT ALL if you take it off.

TheLordOfBlah · Mar 31, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36

lol... noob.

moriz · Mar 31, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42

the trick is to not leave that set until your health stabilizes.

the defensive set is especially important when you're being targetted and being damaged. the +8 AL equates to close to a 10% damage reduction (if you are using a shield with +10AL vs TYPE, that's over 21% reduction vs that type), and the additional health gives you a bigger health buffer to survive with. 30hp might not seem like much, but your monks will thank you. i've survived with 1-4hp left in my defensive set more times than i can count.

this defensive set is not exclusive to eles and casters. pretty much all my characters will have a defensive set. today, my ranger's defensive set allowed me to survive a hit from the trebuchet in gvg. the simple action of switching sets saved me from getting 15%DP... and it was a pretty close call: i had about 21hp left after the trebuchet hit.

Omega Precept · Mar 31, 2008, 04:17 AM // 04:17

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Originally Posted by aznhalf

Same reason any caster class should equip sword+shields. You get the half of the AR bonus of the shield and two fortitude mods.

Then you switch to your efficiency set(40/40) everytime you want to cast a spell. And then can fall back on the shield set to take less damage.

Hope this helps.

Enough said!

Izu · Mar 31, 2008, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Sir Tidus, You may also notice that the closer you are to max health, the faster it regenerates..So If you get spiked with your defensive set equipped (whether it be PVP or PVE0, you not only compensate, at least partially, for the damage, but since your health is higher, the percentage taken is lower which in turn= Faster health Regen

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong

BlueNovember · Mar 31, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55

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Originally Posted by Izu

Sir Tidus, You may also notice that the closer you are to max health, the faster it regenerates..So If you get spiked with your defensive set equipped (whether it be PVP or PVE0, you not only compensate, at least partially, for the damage, but since your health is higher, the percentage taken is lower which in turn= Faster health Regen

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong

Mmmm. I think the speed of regeneration is only dependent upon how long you have been sitting there regenerating. It merely seems to be related to proximity to max health as you have regenerated health by the time the regen rate increases.
Passive regen also doesn't pay much of a factor in pvp either, as it will stop if you attack, cast, or take damage.

Painbringer · Mar 31, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59

Well it looks cool on an elementalist and a monk and a Necro

If a mesmer has one thye are running IW or trying to look cool

Bling baby its all bling

Mar 31, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42	#26
moriz ??ber t??k-n??sh'??n Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Profession: R/	the trick is to not leave that set until your health stabilizes. the defensive set is especially important when you're being targetted and being damaged. the +8 AL equates to close to a 10% damage reduction (if you are using a shield with +10AL vs TYPE, that's over 21% reduction vs that type), and the additional health gives you a bigger health buffer to survive with. 30hp might not seem like much, but your monks will thank you. i've survived with 1-4hp left in my defensive set more times than i can count. this defensive set is not exclusive to eles and casters. pretty much all my characters will have a defensive set. today, my ranger's defensive set allowed me to survive a hit from the trebuchet in gvg. the simple action of switching sets saved me from getting 15%DP... and it was a pretty close call: i had about 21hp left after the trebuchet hit. Last edited by moriz; Mar 31, 2008 at 03:46 AM // 03:46..

Mar 30, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45	#21
Bigger Redd Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: Demon Dawg Knights [DAWG] Profession: Mo/Me	Also, since Ursan Blessing, everyone is a potential frontline character. Swords help keep the damage coming

Mar 31, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57	#22
Jam Jar Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: [Disc] Profession: W/	Or you can have a E/W who's trying to be suicidal.

Mar 31, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36	#25
TheLordOfBlah Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Guild: None Profession: Mo/N	lol... noob.

Mar 31, 2008, 05:50 PM // 17:50	#28
Izu Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2008 Guild: FINE Profession: Mo/E	Sir Tidus, You may also notice that the closer you are to max health, the faster it regenerates..So If you get spiked with your defensive set equipped (whether it be PVP or PVE0, you not only compensate, at least partially, for the damage, but since your health is higher, the percentage taken is lower which in turn= Faster health Regen Feel free to correct me if I am wrong

Mar 31, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59	#30
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	Well it looks cool on an elementalist and a monk and a Necro If a mesmer has one thye are running IW or trying to look cool Bling baby its all bling