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Sir Tidus · Mar 31, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

I read somewhere that you can use defensive stance to block for healing signet? But won't defensive stance end when you use healing signet? Or does it only end after healing signet's two-second activation time is complete? Thanks in advance.

Edit oops, I mean defensive stance.

phan · Mar 31, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34

ends as soon you cast so before

grtz alex

MagmaRed · Mar 31, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40

Stances are instant. Use Healing Signet, then hit your stance. You'll have about 0.25 seconds of no coverage, unless your reaction time is extremely poor. Stances and Shouts can both be used WHILE using another skill. So even an E/W could be casting the 5 second Meteor Shower, and activate Shield Stance before it finishes.

Sir Tidus · Mar 31, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Stances are instant. Use Healing Signet, then hit your stance. You'll have about 0.25 seconds of no coverage, unless your reaction time is extremely poor. Stances and Shouts can both be used WHILE using another skill. So even an E/W could be casting the 5 second Meteor Shower, and activate Shield Stance before it finishes.

So what does it mean when it says that it ends if you use a skill? Does it only count the beginning and the end of the skill?

MisterB · Mar 31, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53

When a stance says it ends when you use a skill, it ends once the skill completes. The stance will be in effect during the entire activation of Healing Signet until it completes or is interrrupted. I've used various defensive stances(Wary, Bonetti's, Defensive, etc.) to cover Healing Signet while solo-farming, and that is how they function.

Crom The Pale · Mar 31, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58

I find that Wary stance is extremely effective as a block for Healing signet since it grants 100% blocking vs skills. This means that interupt skills will fail unless they are spell/signet based.

Sir Tidus · Apr 01, 2008, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

I find that Wary stance is extremely effective as a block for Healing signet since it grants 100% blocking vs skills. This means that interupt skills will fail unless they are spell/signet based.

Yeah but Wary stance doesn't prevent much damage, so you can die from using healing signet. I was think of using disciplined stance to block for healing signet.

Sir Tidus · Apr 01, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

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Originally Posted by MisterB

When a stance says it ends when you use a skill, it ends once the skill completes. The stance will be in effect during the entire activation of Healing Signet until it completes or is interrrupted. I've used various defensive stances(Wary, Bonetti's, Defensive, etc.) to cover Healing Signet while solo-farming, and that is how they function.

So I can activate defensive stance first and then use healing signet? Defensive stance will still be able to block the entire healing signet activation? Or is it like MagmaRed said that I have to activate healing signet before defensive stance?

MisterB · Apr 01, 2008, 12:25 AM // 00:25

I am quite confident that you can test that yourself in the Isle of Nameless with those skills on your bar for the correct activation sequence needed to achieve your desired result.

kobey · Apr 01, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30

guess it is already answered, it is possible to cover with the stance

but efficiency wise, don't do it

defensive stance = bad, healing sig = bad

denfensive stance + healing sig = bbbbbaaaadddddd

Jam Jar · Apr 01, 2008, 03:52 AM // 03:52

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

So I can activate defensive stance first and then use healing signet? Defensive stance will still be able to block the entire healing signet activation? Or is it like MagmaRed said that I have to activate healing signet before defensive stance?

No, defensive stance will end if you use Healing Signet. First activate Healing Signet and then use your defensive stance right after. Stances and Shouts can be used during skills.

Coloneh · Apr 01, 2008, 03:58 AM // 03:58

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Originally Posted by kobey

healing sig = bad

less acid man... wayyyyy less acid

Chthon · Apr 01, 2008, 04:16 AM // 04:16

1. It's hard to justify healsig (used alone) now that lion's comfort has been buffed (and the rest of tactics has been nerfed to heck).

2. If you're going to use 2 skillslots for a self heal, it's time to look at the dervish options. Vital boon + signet of pious light is very popular.

Targuil · Apr 01, 2008, 04:26 AM // 04:26

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Originally Posted by Chthon

1. It's hard to justify healsig (used alone) now that lion's comfort has been buffed (and the rest of tactics has been nerfed to heck).

2. If you're going to use 2 skillslots for a self heal, it's time to look at the dervish options. Vital boon + signet of pious light is very popular.

1. True but better leave self heal alone and take a monk. RA=Hope for a monk
2.Most dervishes use AoB and [insert 4 self heals here].

Hugh Manatee · Apr 01, 2008, 04:40 AM // 04:40

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Originally Posted by Jam Jar

No, defensive stance will end if you use Healing Signet. First activate Healing Signet and then use your defensive stance right after. Stances and Shouts can be used during skills.

Thats not how it works(you can use the stance during the signet, but you dont need to), I'm looking at my warrior testing it as I type. The stance only ends once healing signet finishes casting. Bonneties Defense, is the same way.

You CAN enter the stance first, then cast the signet and it will be covered for the duration of the activation. The stance will then end when healing signet is finished.

Also Lions Comfort is nice, till there's nothing to build adrenaline off of or you get your adrenaline denied through blocking, hexes, visage, blackouts ect. They're both viable, just different.

MagmaRed · Apr 01, 2008, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Not everyone (like the OP) has Nightfall, and access to Lions Comfort.

Sir Tidus · Apr 01, 2008, 05:38 AM // 05:38

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Originally Posted by Chthon

1. It's hard to justify healsig (used alone) now that lion's comfort has been buffed (and the rest of tactics has been nerfed to heck).

2. If you're going to use 2 skillslots for a self heal, it's time to look at the dervish options. Vital boon + signet of pious light is very popular.

I agree completely. But guess what? I have no NF.

Antheus · Apr 01, 2008, 06:06 AM // 06:06

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

I agree completely. But guess what? I have no NF.

You hopefully have a monk of sorts on your team.

Sir Tidus · Apr 01, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by Antheus

You hopefully have a monk of sorts on your team.

Yeah, I use Stonehealer.

Mar 31, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30	#1
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Possible to use defensive stance to block for healing signet? I read somewhere that you can use defensive stance to block for healing signet? But won't defensive stance end when you use healing signet? Or does it only end after healing signet's two-second activation time is complete? Thanks in advance. Edit oops, I mean defensive stance. Last edited by Sir Tidus; Mar 31, 2008 at 08:42 PM // 20:42..

Mar 31, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34	#2
phan Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: phantasmagoria	ends as soon you cast so before grtz alex

Mar 31, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40	#3
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Stances are instant. Use Healing Signet, then hit your stance. You'll have about 0.25 seconds of no coverage, unless your reaction time is extremely poor. Stances and Shouts can both be used WHILE using another skill. So even an E/W could be casting the 5 second Meteor Shower, and activate Shield Stance before it finishes.

Mar 31, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53	#5
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	When a stance says it ends when you use a skill, it ends once the skill completes. The stance will be in effect during the entire activation of Healing Signet until it completes or is interrrupted. I've used various defensive stances(Wary, Bonetti's, Defensive, etc.) to cover Healing Signet while solo-farming, and that is how they function.

Mar 31, 2008, 11:58 PM // 23:58	#6
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	I find that Wary stance is extremely effective as a block for Healing signet since it grants 100% blocking vs skills. This means that interupt skills will fail unless they are spell/signet based.

Apr 01, 2008, 12:25 AM // 00:25	#9
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	I am quite confident that you can test that yourself in the Isle of Nameless with those skills on your bar for the correct activation sequence needed to achieve your desired result.

Apr 01, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30	#10
kobey GW Retiree Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: Sg Unknown [KATE] Profession: W/	guess it is already answered, it is possible to cover with the stance but efficiency wise, don't do it defensive stance = bad, healing sig = bad denfensive stance + healing sig = bbbbbaaaadddddd

Apr 01, 2008, 04:16 AM // 04:16	#13
Chthon Grotto Attendant Join Date: Apr 2007	1. It's hard to justify healsig (used alone) now that lion's comfort has been buffed (and the rest of tactics has been nerfed to heck). 2. If you're going to use 2 skillslots for a self heal, it's time to look at the dervish options. Vital boon + signet of pious light is very popular.

Apr 01, 2008, 04:53 AM // 04:53	#16
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Not everyone (like the OP) has Nightfall, and access to Lions Comfort.