How much good to Pets do? (Ranger Pets) - Guild Wars Forums

Weazzol · May 18, 2005, 07:31 PM // 19:31

I'm just curious, has anyone been able to figure out how much good Ranger Pets do? Are they worth having? Is there a big difference on the kind of pet you have (cat, wolf, etc)? Or does it all really just depend on your Beast Mastery skills? Thanks.

Romac · May 18, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by Weazzol

I'm just curious, has anyone been able to figure out how much good Ranger Pets do? Are they worth having?

well, like in most of these games that allow people to have pets, it's always a trade off bewteen how many attribute points ou want to spend on your pet vs how many you want to spend on yourself.

generally, i prefer to spend attribute points on the damage i do, rather than spend them on the damage my pets do. so for me, my pet means a little extra damage, but i don't really depend on it to get me through anything.

i don't have any hard numbers for you of what a ranger can do dps-wise with his pet as my ranger is only lvl 11.

Draken · May 18, 2005, 07:44 PM // 19:44

i have a pet and i still wonder its not easy to tell since their damage doesnt show. My bear with 5 points in beast master doesnt do squat and i cant see wasting more points in it and skill bar room for skills that are *meh*. Basicly they still suck i just keep mine around because he looks cool and tanks a bit.

Lasher Dragon · May 18, 2005, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Ranks in Beast Mastery will make your pet hit for more damage, and the pet will get critical hits more often. I think I have like 2 ranks in Beast Mastery - it's just not important to me how much damage my pet does. What is important to me is that my pet takes the heat off me, and that has nothing to do with Beast Mastery. How much abuse your pet can soak is entirely dependant upon the pet's level. Some people say certain pets tank better than others, but I have yet to see any evidence of that.

Radiick · May 18, 2005, 08:21 PM // 20:21

Good question! I rely on my pet quite a bit. Like said previously, it does take the aggroe of yourself while you send barrages of arrows on the mob. Also I load a spell (can't remember the name of it) that increases the dammage done by your pet. Also my pet is level 17, so he can handle most mobs leveled under him. One good thing also is that you can send your pet against one foe then while he is attacking it, you can easely switch to another, thus you are basically attacking 2 mobs at the same time. Once the pet's mob is killed, he will automatically switch and help you out. Also they heal very fast and cost almost nothing to rez when they die. And of course, you never have to feed them!!! So it is worth the extra help.

Only disavantages is that you loose a couple of spots for the spells because you always have to load your heal pet and your mez pet skills in order to take him with you in the instances. Also, he tends to get in the way sometimes blocking you or team members in some tight areas. I even got stuck against a wall and a monument because my pet was right next to me and I could not move, and that time I was playing solo with henchmen and could not get unstuck, so I had to warp back to town and start over!!! I really don't use my second proffesion that much, so putting skills points in Beast Mastery is not a major problem for me.

Basically, I have never gone out adventuring without my pet, he tanks well and is always there to take on the aggroe in thight situations. It's all in the way you decide to play.

Funny thing though, the Ranger Henchman (woman) does not have any pet when you take her along!!!

Cheers!!!

Fye Duron · May 18, 2005, 08:35 PM // 20:35

I have to say that I love my pet... I also Find that I'm grouping up with people much lowerlevel then me and usually my pet does a much better job tanking then them.. lol.
Also I find that as a Ranger I'm all in my primary for the most part so the points in Beast aren't much of a big deal... also they help with Tiger's Fury, and Energizing Wind which I love to cast with Serpent's Quickness... who doesn't like free Double Shot for free?

Lewick · May 18, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42

Haven't had my pet out since level 15 or so. In the higher level areas of the game he tended to get hurt badly and he only seemed to help when I was soloing against lower level mobs. I reallocated my points into smiting prayers and never looked back. The AE smite damage is much more effective than my pet ever was.

Pevil Lihatuh · May 19, 2005, 11:31 AM // 11:31

well level 20 and i still take my pet out. if i go back to 'lower' level areas he does a ton more damage than me with only 3 in beastmastery (can tell looking at the health bar drop) and though he doesn't do so much damage in level 20+ areas, he still lives long enough to save my life most of the time.

Romac · May 19, 2005, 11:43 AM // 11:43

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Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh

he still lives long enough to save my life most of the time.

yeah that's how i view my pet...you won't find me spending points on beastmastery unless they are left over points, but he buys me time, and if i only have 1 skill (calm pet) i can rez him if he takes a dive...better him than me.

Roken · May 19, 2005, 11:52 AM // 11:52

It really depends on your Beast Mastery, the level of your pet, and the level of the mob your going up against to know how effective your pet is. If your pet is a low level, meaning low life, going up against higer level mobs, then it isnt going to be that effective. It also depends on what buffs/skills you have for your pet.

Personally, if you don't depend on him for survival or damage output, then it isnt worth the extra slots he takes up on your skill bar. Those extra slots could be used for Res Signent incase a party member dies. I've replaced my pet skills with Res Signent and some interrupt skills and I don't think Id ever change it back.

BrokenSymmetry · May 20, 2005, 12:09 AM // 00:09

I think that the Beast Mastery (pet) skills are severely underestimated. There is a large range of pet-related skills that are extremely useful, and for the most part low-energy-cost.

Some examples of pet skills that you can get early on in the game:
- Feral Lunge. Does extra damage and causes bleeding when the target is attacking. At rank 10 in Beast Mastery this will cause a total damage of 133 (avg. 10 base + 15 + 18 seconds bleeding), for an energy cost of just 5. This is great against attacking warriors in PvP.
- Predator's pounce. Does extra damage, and heals the pet. At rank 10 in Beast Mastery, this does +15 damage, and heals the pet by 35. if you use this skill regularly, you have a self-healing pet that never needs extra attention. This again for an energy cost of only 5.

So, although a pet requires 2 extra skill positions to be used (Charm Animal + Comfort Animal), their range of skills make them useful for much more than just an easily killed tank.

Serafita Kayin · May 20, 2005, 12:28 AM // 00:28

Nice, BrokenSymmetry...

Kaiwyn · May 20, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32

I never use my pet. Haven't room in my skills bar for Charm Animal (which you must have equipped for your pet to appear) and any pet skills. I find I can do more damage and keep myself healthy using those slots for my own skills.

Jizzy · May 20, 2005, 02:19 AM // 02:19

I keep my beast mastery high and use a pet in PvP. Generally people target me instead of the pet so if I get in trouble I just run around and let the pet do the killing, if they stop to attack the pet then I can turn around and pepper them with arrows.

Lorumung San · Feb 08, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Originally Posted by Weazzol

I'm just curious, has anyone been able to figure out how much good Ranger Pets do? Are they worth having? Is there a big difference on the kind of pet you have (cat, wolf, etc)? Or does it all really just depend on your Beast Mastery skills? Thanks.

Pets are a lot like players in this regard. Most people will tell you pets suck at tanking and damage, but that's because they generally expect pets to deal 20+ damage with 0 beast mastery, and tend to think they can't tank to save your life or theirs, because most people try to expect them to act as assassins with 80 armor instead of 70, and take the beatings like a regular warrior would. Beast Mastery level does matter, unlike most people say, but not simply to increase pet damage, it also increases the effectiveness of pet defense ( call of protection, symbiotic bond, and otyugh's cry are the big 3 pet-defense skills.) Pets have a purpose that most people miss, getting more concerned about their pet's overall damage output, rather than their ability to keep from falling over dead. Pets are multi-purpose though, since they work roughly like players. Are you a ranged-attacking class with low armor? You'd want to take charm animal, comfort animal/heal as one for healing and ressurection, and symbiotic bond/call of protection to make it durable. If you're a melee class, mobs would automatically target you, since you hold higher priority in the enemie's eyes rather than the pet, so you'd want a damage role for the pet, charm animal, comfort animal/heal as one, and some pet-attack skill. So it depends; what role do you want your pet to perform? And does it even have the correct skills to do so??? As for me, I have heal as one with call of protection, as well a hearty pet, so it can reduce the base damage of attacks by 15 (level 10 beast mastery), making melee do almost 0 damage, and having a noticable effect on spell damage (But not quite as big as melee) though still being able to soak up the damage. Vital Blessing I use as a permanent +147 health at 10 protection prayers, with a pet that has 540 health unmodified, so it can better absorb damage that is too large for call of protection to feasibly reduce, getting a pet with 687 health and 15 base damage reduced... makes for quite a tank, even if the enchantment gets removed somehow. It costs me half my skill bar, but in the end I get something close to a second player that doesn't do a spectacular load of damage, but takes an absurd beating.

Whispering Siren · Feb 08, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

I know you're supposed to use search, but use it wisely (i.e. check the OP date). This thread is nearly 3 years old... leave it be!

Mesmer in Need · Feb 08, 2008, 03:04 AM // 03:04

Rofl...
You rezzed an almost 2.5 year old thread.

Lorumung San · Feb 08, 2008, 03:21 AM // 03:21

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Originally Posted by Whispering Siren

I know you're supposed to use search, but use it wisely (i.e. check the OP date). This thread is nearly 3 years old... leave it be!

Oops, lol.

Time to start checking the OP dates. >_<

Coloneh · Feb 08, 2008, 04:58 AM // 04:58

+1

good necro

L33TNeMiSiS · Feb 08, 2008, 07:56 AM // 07:56

There are diffrences Between Certain Pets. But it's not the pet that matters it's the way you leveled. See the wiki. here is a Extract from the wiki:
* Hearty: -(~12-14)% damage, +60 health
* Playful: -(~5)% damage, +30 health
* Elder: -0 damage, +0 health
* Aggressive: +(~5)% damage, -30 health
* Dire: +(~12-14)% damage, -60 health

Please see http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Pets for more info

If you reset your pet name you can see what it leveled into. Think the first level that it makes a difference is level 12 and then again at level 20.
type '/petname' to reset - i think

May 18, 2005, 07:31 PM // 19:31	#1
Weazzol Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	How much good to Pets do? (Ranger Pets) I'm just curious, has anyone been able to figure out how much good Ranger Pets do? Are they worth having? Is there a big difference on the kind of pet you have (cat, wolf, etc)? Or does it all really just depend on your Beast Mastery skills? Thanks.

May 18, 2005, 07:44 PM // 19:44	#3
Draken Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: The Exiled	i have a pet and i still wonder its not easy to tell since their damage doesnt show. My bear with 5 points in beast master doesnt do squat and i cant see wasting more points in it and skill bar room for skills that are meh. Basicly they still suck i just keep mine around because he looks cool and tanks a bit.

May 18, 2005, 07:58 PM // 19:58	#4
Lasher Dragon Draconic Rage Incarnate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Iowa Guild: Alphahive Profession: R/A	Ranks in Beast Mastery will make your pet hit for more damage, and the pet will get critical hits more often. I think I have like 2 ranks in Beast Mastery - it's just not important to me how much damage my pet does. What is important to me is that my pet takes the heat off me, and that has nothing to do with Beast Mastery. How much abuse your pet can soak is entirely dependant upon the pet's level. Some people say certain pets tank better than others, but I have yet to see any evidence of that.

May 18, 2005, 08:21 PM // 20:21	#5
Radiick Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005	Good question! I rely on my pet quite a bit. Like said previously, it does take the aggroe of yourself while you send barrages of arrows on the mob. Also I load a spell (can't remember the name of it) that increases the dammage done by your pet. Also my pet is level 17, so he can handle most mobs leveled under him. One good thing also is that you can send your pet against one foe then while he is attacking it, you can easely switch to another, thus you are basically attacking 2 mobs at the same time. Once the pet's mob is killed, he will automatically switch and help you out. Also they heal very fast and cost almost nothing to rez when they die. And of course, you never have to feed them!!! So it is worth the extra help. Only disavantages is that you loose a couple of spots for the spells because you always have to load your heal pet and your mez pet skills in order to take him with you in the instances. Also, he tends to get in the way sometimes blocking you or team members in some tight areas. I even got stuck against a wall and a monument because my pet was right next to me and I could not move, and that time I was playing solo with henchmen and could not get unstuck, so I had to warp back to town and start over!!! I really don't use my second proffesion that much, so putting skills points in Beast Mastery is not a major problem for me. Basically, I have never gone out adventuring without my pet, he tanks well and is always there to take on the aggroe in thight situations. It's all in the way you decide to play. Funny thing though, the Ranger Henchman (woman) does not have any pet when you take her along!!! Cheers!!!

May 18, 2005, 08:35 PM // 20:35	#6
Fye Duron Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chico, CA, USA Guild: Dragon Fang	I have to say that I love my pet... I also Find that I'm grouping up with people much lowerlevel then me and usually my pet does a much better job tanking then them.. lol. Also I find that as a Ranger I'm all in my primary for the most part so the points in Beast aren't much of a big deal... also they help with Tiger's Fury, and Energizing Wind which I love to cast with Serpent's Quickness... who doesn't like free Double Shot for free?

May 18, 2005, 08:42 PM // 20:42	#7
Lewick Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Profession: R/Mo	Haven't had my pet out since level 15 or so. In the higher level areas of the game he tended to get hurt badly and he only seemed to help when I was soloing against lower level mobs. I reallocated my points into smiting prayers and never looked back. The AE smite damage is much more effective than my pet ever was.

May 19, 2005, 11:31 AM // 11:31	#8
Pevil Lihatuh Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Yorkshire, UK Profession: R/Me	well level 20 and i still take my pet out. if i go back to 'lower' level areas he does a ton more damage than me with only 3 in beastmastery (can tell looking at the health bar drop) and though he doesn't do so much damage in level 20+ areas, he still lives long enough to save my life most of the time.

May 19, 2005, 11:52 AM // 11:52	#10
Roken Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, Florida (US) Guild: Corpse Ecstacy[Crps] Profession: N/R	It really depends on your Beast Mastery, the level of your pet, and the level of the mob your going up against to know how effective your pet is. If your pet is a low level, meaning low life, going up against higer level mobs, then it isnt going to be that effective. It also depends on what buffs/skills you have for your pet. Personally, if you don't depend on him for survival or damage output, then it isnt worth the extra slots he takes up on your skill bar. Those extra slots could be used for Res Signent incase a party member dies. I've replaced my pet skills with Res Signent and some interrupt skills and I don't think Id ever change it back.

May 20, 2005, 12:09 AM // 00:09	#11
BrokenSymmetry Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005	I think that the Beast Mastery (pet) skills are severely underestimated. There is a large range of pet-related skills that are extremely useful, and for the most part low-energy-cost. Some examples of pet skills that you can get early on in the game: - Feral Lunge. Does extra damage and causes bleeding when the target is attacking. At rank 10 in Beast Mastery this will cause a total damage of 133 (avg. 10 base + 15 + 18 seconds bleeding), for an energy cost of just 5. This is great against attacking warriors in PvP. - Predator's pounce. Does extra damage, and heals the pet. At rank 10 in Beast Mastery, this does +15 damage, and heals the pet by 35. if you use this skill regularly, you have a self-healing pet that never needs extra attention. This again for an energy cost of only 5. So, although a pet requires 2 extra skill positions to be used (Charm Animal + Comfort Animal), their range of skills make them useful for much more than just an easily killed tank.

May 20, 2005, 12:28 AM // 00:28	#12
Serafita Kayin Exclusive Reclusive Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Guild: Seraph's Pinion (wing) Profession: R/Me	Nice, BrokenSymmetry...

May 20, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32	#13
Kaiwyn Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BC Canada	I never use my pet. Haven't room in my skills bar for Charm Animal (which you must have equipped for your pet to appear) and any pet skills. I find I can do more damage and keep myself healthy using those slots for my own skills.

Feb 08, 2008, 03:04 AM // 03:04	#17
Mesmer in Need Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: [ToA]	Rofl... You rezzed an almost 2.5 year old thread.

May 20, 2005, 02:19 AM // 02:19	#14
Jizzy Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	I keep my beast mastery high and use a pet in PvP. Generally people target me instead of the pet so if I get in trouble I just run around and let the pet do the killing, if they stop to attack the pet then I can turn around and pepper them with arrows.

Feb 08, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03	#16
Whispering Siren Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland	I know you're supposed to use search, but use it wisely (i.e. check the OP date). This thread is nearly 3 years old... leave it be!

Feb 08, 2008, 04:58 AM // 04:58	#19
Coloneh Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: D/W	+1 good necro

Feb 08, 2008, 07:56 AM // 07:56	#20
L33TNeMiSiS Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Graveyard of Undying Heroes Profession: E/	There are diffrences Between Certain Pets. But it's not the pet that matters it's the way you leveled. See the wiki. here is a Extract from the wiki: * Hearty: -(~12-14)% damage, +60 health * Playful: -(~5)% damage, +30 health * Elder: -0 damage, +0 health * Aggressive: +(~5)% damage, -30 health * Dire: +(~12-14)% damage, -60 health Please see http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Pets for more info If you reset your pet name you can see what it leveled into. Think the first level that it makes a difference is level 12 and then again at level 20. type '/petname' to reset - i think