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Mad King Corn · Apr 26, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

When PUGS are looking for an ursan group, besides ursan, what skills are they looking for? I primarily use a ranger.

Squishy ftw · Apr 26, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

It doesn't even matters.

Bring ursan and some res and they'll be happy.

the kurzick eater · Apr 26, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

bring ursan, and maybe a few eotn pve only summon skills I.E. djinn, imp, vanguard assassin, etc.

and A REZ

ogre_jd · Apr 26, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by Squishy ftw

It doesn't even matters.

Bring ursan and some res and they'll be happy.

It does matter. You'll at times run out of energy, after all. Probably a basic pet build would be best: [[Charm Animal], [[Comfort Animal], and [[Call of Protection]. CoP lasts 2 minutes, so just use it before you hit Ursan to give your pet a bit of damage reduction.

Since you can't really use a bow while Ursan, it's probably a good idea to go R/W for a Tactics shield and cheap adrenal attack skills for when something drains your Energy (Mist Vaettirs are really annoying that way). An Axe would probably be best for the cheap adrenal attacks. I prefer a combo of [[Dismember] and [[Keen Chop], for easy spammability, while you wait for your Energy to get to 10+ and UB to recharge.

[Dismember][Keen Chop]["I Am The Strongest!"]["For Great Justice!"][Ursan Blessing][Call Of Protection][Comfort Animal][Charm Animal]

[[Penetrating Blow] could be substituted for [[Keen Chop], if you prefer, while [["For Great Justice!"] can be replaced by [[Resurrection Signet] if the PUG absolutely demands it. The only point of the non-pet skills is to give you something to do when Ursan's down.

For stats, only enough Tactics to use your shield and put both Beast Mastery & Axe Mastery as high as you can get them, with Beast Mastery being the priority (to maximize Call of Protection's effectiveness and your pet's damage and critical hit rate) if one can go higher than the other.

So, basically, if you're outside of [[Ursan Blessing], just do [["I Am The Strongest!"] & [[Call of Protection] before you head into battle and activate Ursan. If Ursan runs out for some reason, start auto-attacking and [[Dismember] & [[Keen Chop]/[[Penetrating Blow] as needed, using [["For Great Justice!"] the instant you get 5 energy (since your energy will almost certainly regen to 10 long before Ursan becomes available again there's really no risk).

ajc2123 · Apr 26, 2008, 07:41 PM // 19:41

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Originally Posted by ogre_jd

It does matter. You'll at times run out of energy, after all. Probably a basic pet build would be best: [[Charm Animal], [[Comfort Animal], and [[Call of Protection]. CoP lasts 2 minutes, so just use it before you hit Ursan to give your pet a bit of damage reduction.

Since you can't really use a bow while Ursan, it's probably a good idea to go R/W for a Tactics shield and cheap adrenal attack skills for when something drains your Energy (Mist Vaettirs are really annoying that way). An Axe would probably be best for the cheap adrenal attacks. I prefer a combo of [[Dismember] and [[Keen Chop], for easy spammability, while you wait for your Energy to get to 10+ and UB to recharge.

[Dismember][Keen Chop]["I Am The Strongest!"]["For Great Justice!"][Ursan Blessing][Call Of Protection][Comfort Animal][Charm Animal]

[[Penetrating Blow] could be substituted for [[Keen Chop], if you prefer, while [["For Great Justice!"] can be replaced by [[Resurrection Signet] if the PUG absolutely demands it. The only point of the non-pet skills is to give you something to do when Ursan's down.

For stats, only enough Tactics to use your shield and put both Beast Mastery & Axe Mastery as high as you can get them, with Beast Mastery being the priority (to maximize Call of Protection's effectiveness and your pet's damage and critical hit rate) if one can go higher than the other.

So, basically, if you're outside of [[Ursan Blessing], just do [["I Am The Strongest!"] & [[Call of Protection] before you head into battle and activate Ursan. If Ursan runs out for some reason, start auto-attacking and [[Dismember] & [[Keen Chop]/[[Penetrating Blow] as needed, using [["For Great Justice!"] the instant you get 5 energy (since your energy will almost certainly regen to 10 long before Ursan becomes available again there's really no risk).

No, it really doesn't matter as long as they have Ursan at a high rank, and a couple rezzes. Anything else like high energy weapon sets or pets and such are just complimentary.

Snograt · Apr 26, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Never gone group Ursan in Slavers', but I would have thought that [frozen soil] would still be useful.

Maybe?

Risus · Apr 26, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

Well, as my ranger, I bring running skills and R/A put 12 into dagger mastery, 12 into expertise, I bring this:
[skill]Ursan Blessing[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill][skill]Zojun's Haste[/skill][skill]"I am the Strongest!"[/skill][skill]Jagged Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]Sunspear Rebirth Signet[/skill]

Pain Inverter works well also. Be sure to use Totem of a Man right before you kill a boss so you can recharge your res.

Soul of the Scythe · Apr 26, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Dwarven Stabilty and the long lasting mesmer stances(mantra of frost, lgihtning, earth and flame) physical resistance and elemental resistance.

The Red Messenger · Apr 27, 2008, 04:48 AM // 04:48

Dwarven stability + serpents quickness will give you a 33% damage boost from the fast recharge for a while. always bring a res.

for weapon sets, use a zealous 1 handed wep of defense with +5 energy, and a shield. and second set, a +15/-1 offhand for if there is a pause but you dont want to lose form.

i often go r/p and bring a motivation shield and cast mending refrain on myself. the "ursan roar" can keep up mending refrain for a while, taking a little strain off of the monks.

Solaris Darklight · Apr 27, 2008, 11:14 AM // 11:14

Do you think that a necromancer would get accepted for ursans?

Buzzer · Apr 27, 2008, 02:07 PM // 14:07

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Originally Posted by Solaris Darklight

Do you think that a necromancer would get accepted for ursans?

Sure, 90% of ursan groups don't care about profession.

Rene Saliere · Apr 27, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03

That people like the OP actually ask this kind of question is an excellent demonstration of how the GW universe has... how can I put this diplomatically... um... changed.

Mad King Corn · Apr 28, 2008, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Thanks for replies everyone, never ran an ursan build before, just figured I would give it a try.

krypt1200 · Apr 28, 2008, 05:50 AM // 05:50

I think we can all agree that ursan has..."ruined" the game. But it comes with tradeoffs.

It creates equality in ALL classes, so no one is discriminated. And it saves a LOT of time, so people can move on to other things, or enjoy a real life.

Bluefeather · Apr 28, 2008, 07:29 AM // 07:29

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Originally Posted by krypt1200

I think we can all agree that ursan has..."ruined" the game. But it comes with tradeoffs.

It creates equality in ALL classes, so no one is discriminated. And it saves a LOT of time, so people can move on to other things, or enjoy a real life.

I think you mean to say "uniformity."

Diversified equality is better (balanced without making it "uniform" [one form])

Mr. G · Apr 28, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01

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Sure, 90% of ursan groups don't care about profession.

Theres still time.....

Apr 26, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20	#1
Mad King Corn Banned Join Date: Dec 2006	Ursan question When PUGS are looking for an ursan group, besides ursan, what skills are they looking for? I primarily use a ranger.

Apr 26, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53	#6
Snograt rattus rattus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST Guild: [GURU]GW [wiki]GW2 Profession: R/	Never gone group Ursan in Slavers', but I would have thought that [frozen soil] would still be useful. Maybe? __________________ Si non confectus, non reficiat

Apr 26, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21	#2
Squishy ftw Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Your backline Profession: W/	It doesn't even matters. Bring ursan and some res and they'll be happy.

Apr 26, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30	#3
the kurzick eater Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 1323 lancelot dr. greenwood PA Guild: wat Profession: Mo/	bring ursan, and maybe a few eotn pve only summon skills I.E. djinn, imp, vanguard assassin, etc. and A REZ

Apr 26, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59	#7
Risus Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: 56min UW HM post-2/25 I win Guild: FDR Profession: A/	Well, as my ranger, I bring running skills and R/A put 12 into dagger mastery, 12 into expertise, I bring this: [skill]Ursan Blessing[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill][skill]Zojun's Haste[/skill][skill]"I am the Strongest!"[/skill][skill]Jagged Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]Sunspear Rebirth Signet[/skill] Pain Inverter works well also. Be sure to use Totem of a Man right before you kill a boss so you can recharge your res.

Apr 26, 2008, 08:07 PM // 20:07	#8
Soul of the Scythe Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Guild: Higher Order [HO] Profession: D/	Dwarven Stabilty and the long lasting mesmer stances(mantra of frost, lgihtning, earth and flame) physical resistance and elemental resistance.

Apr 27, 2008, 04:48 AM // 04:48	#9
The Red Messenger Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: America	Dwarven stability + serpents quickness will give you a 33% damage boost from the fast recharge for a while. always bring a res. for weapon sets, use a zealous 1 handed wep of defense with +5 energy, and a shield. and second set, a +15/-1 offhand for if there is a pause but you dont want to lose form. i often go r/p and bring a motivation shield and cast mending refrain on myself. the "ursan roar" can keep up mending refrain for a while, taking a little strain off of the monks.

Apr 27, 2008, 11:14 AM // 11:14	#10
Solaris Darklight Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: N/	Do you think that a necromancer would get accepted for ursans?

Apr 27, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03	#12
Rene Saliere Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Zealand	That people like the OP actually ask this kind of question is an excellent demonstration of how the GW universe has... how can I put this diplomatically... um... changed.

Apr 28, 2008, 05:29 AM // 05:29	#13
Mad King Corn Banned Join Date: Dec 2006	Thanks for replies everyone, never ran an ursan build before, just figured I would give it a try.

Apr 28, 2008, 05:50 AM // 05:50	#14
krypt1200 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Atomik Fear [aF] Profession: W/E	I think we can all agree that ursan has..."ruined" the game. But it comes with tradeoffs. It creates equality in ALL classes, so no one is discriminated. And it saves a LOT of time, so people can move on to other things, or enjoy a real life.