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Dras · May 03, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

I have it down to Ranger or Paragon. I plan on making the ranger in NF as well

Ranger
-Thumper is fun, but any good in PvE? what about areas were i can't KD?
-Escape scythe was fun in PvP, but seems a little redundant in PvE
-Barrage is my #1 choice right now.
-Burning Arrow seems to be the only good Marks elite I can get early in NF
-Ranger do have a large choice in play style, so I doubt i'll get bored
-I have a ton of mods for ranger builds sitting around ^^

Paragon
-SY/TntF seems to be the only good PvE build
-I've heard it makes the game ridiculously easy though
-would it take a while to get the PvE skills? How much do Elite Para tomes go for? If i remember right, the elite (Focused Anger i think) is a fair way into NF

Few more things
-I plan on making this my title hunter. i will be going for survivor, which has a better chance of living? :P
-I have a basic understanding of the two classes. I read stickies on both forums and did my research
-Any tips, builds, or constructive opinions welcomed

the savage nornbear · May 03, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

rangers are outrageous. good times

snaek · May 03, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

rangers r more versatile

paragons...have fun playin teh same build for teh rest of ur lifetime

to answer ur questions...

a modified thumper can work
i'd prefer teh pve skill [never rampage alone] over [rampage as one] to free up ur elite slot

pve skills...tntf u can get basically at lvl3 or whenever u get to kamadan
save yourselves...all that is required is that u be lvl20 for ur chara
(the faction and title req. is account based)

ranger is easier for survivor since they attack from a longer range,
and can bring better self-defense/heal
paragons, have good party support/defense skills...
but not as many options as a ranger for self-defense

but if u plan on doin drunken boxing or similar to get survivor
then teh paras extra armour will be more beneficial
(i did ss/lb runs to max survivor+ss+lb all at teh same time on my para...
and teh armour there also helps so that ur targeted less often)

I Is Special · May 03, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Just because you're going to make it a title hunter->>Choose Paragon, No doubt about it.

the savage nornbear · May 03, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Why is a Paragon better for title hunting? I'm a bit confused by that idea.

Kyomi Tachibana · May 03, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50

[Save yourselves] and [there's nothing to fear] are the reasons why a Paragon is easier to title hunt with. Leave the dazing to a hero.

the savage nornbear · May 03, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

meh. maybe its just personal preferance. i almost never run with a imbagon and i dont have troubles. sure it will be easier with a para but do you really wanna wear a dress?

Dras · May 03, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

i just noticed something...TntF is 15 energy and aggressive refrain is 25. any help on energy management if i roll a para? oh and can anyone link the Sy/TntF build?

Kyomi Tachibana · May 03, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06

The energy management comes from spamming SY and energy gain through Leadership.

I'll find the build in a moment.

Alex the Great · May 03, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by Dras

i just noticed something...TntF is 15 energy and aggressive refrain is 25. any help on energy management if i roll a para? oh and can anyone link the Sy/TntF build?

leadership would provde 6 energy at 12 attribute for every shout, and SY is free, so a net gain of 6 energy. TNTF would be 9 e.nergy, and with anthem of flame you can keep agressive refrain up forever.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:P/...ed_PvE_Paragon
imbagon ^

and people say thats the only build you'll ever use, but I find that spearmastery builds with [soldier's fury] or [cruel spear] are great fun

Covah · May 03, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Dras

aggressive refrain is 25. any help on energy management

AR is used once at the begining of the battle, then it is kept up with shouts. Energy is never a problem.

Shadowfox1125 · May 03, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30

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Originally Posted by the savage nornbear

sure it will be easier with a para but do you really wanna wear a dress?

These types of comments are just unnecessary. You might be shallow enough to refuse to play a Paragon because of a dress, but not everyone else. Guess what? Dervs wear dresses too! Rt leggings aren't exactly shorts either..

Go Paragon and get FoW. Fricking amazing.

You won't have energy problems with a Paragon when you have the broken primary attribute Leadership. Use Anthem of Flame / Go For the Eyes to regain energy. You should be casting Aggressive Refrain before battle anyways.

You might have a couple builds in PvE, but when you're in PvP, you've got more options.

Alex the Great · May 03, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34

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Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125

Go Paragon and get FoW. Fricking amazing.

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I actually like paragon monument better, it has a chain mail kilt and dies very well on the shoulder blades

the savage nornbear · May 03, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125

These types of comments are just unnecessary. You might be shallow enough to refuse to play a Paragon because of a dress, but not everyone else. Guess what? Dervs wear dresses too! Rt leggings aren't exactly shorts either..

Go Paragon and get FoW. Fricking amazing.

You won't have energy problems with a Paragon when you have the broken primary attribute Leadership. Use Anthem of Flame / Go For the Eyes to regain energy. You should be casting Aggressive Refrain before battle anyways.

You might have a couple builds in PvE, but when you're in PvP, you've got more options.

sorry silly boy. i forgot the /sarcasm button. i have a paragon and enjoy playing it. lay off.

snaek · May 03, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125

These types of comments are just unnecessary. You might be shallow enough to refuse to play a Paragon because of a dress, but not everyone else. Guess what? Dervs wear dresses too! Rt leggings aren't exactly shorts either..

Go Paragon and get FoW. Fricking amazing.

i dunno...i think looks can be quite important to a chara
there r a ton of ppl who remake yr old charas jus cuz they dun like how they look

i dun mind the para skirts...but do they have to make them look all the same?
it would be nice to see moar variation and moar pants would be nice too

its funny how all paras look the same, and they all run the same builds too

anyways...male ranger armour isnt that much better than male para armour
female armour in both r pretty slick tho

sir fluffums · May 03, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

i feel like pragons may be bettter for living longer (better armor) but rangers still have a good track record for the "Living game" due to range. and it seems like youll be better at ranger hacing so many mods liying around and i personally love rangers.
flaming barrrage/splinter barrage Ftw!!

Dras · May 04, 2008, 02:39 AM // 02:39

kk, i rolled my Para, she has a nice vamp spear and sheild :P ty to everyone who gave their opinion

Commander Ryker · May 04, 2008, 04:29 AM // 04:29

There have been at least 20 other threads started asking the same question over and over. Please use search next time.

May 03, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18	#3
snaek Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: N/	rangers r more versatile paragons...have fun playin teh same build for teh rest of ur lifetime to answer ur questions... a modified thumper can work i'd prefer teh pve skill [never rampage alone] over [rampage as one] to free up ur elite slot pve skills...tntf u can get basically at lvl3 or whenever u get to kamadan save yourselves...all that is required is that u be lvl20 for ur chara (the faction and title req. is account based) ranger is easier for survivor since they attack from a longer range, and can bring better self-defense/heal paragons, have good party support/defense skills... but not as many options as a ranger for self-defense but if u plan on doin drunken boxing or similar to get survivor then teh paras extra armour will be more beneficial (i did ss/lb runs to max survivor+ss+lb all at teh same time on my para... and teh armour there also helps so that ur targeted less often) Last edited by snaek; May 03, 2008 at 09:23 PM // 21:23..

May 03, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57	#1
Dras Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2008 Guild: [BOOM] Profession: D/	So i'm making a new toon.... I have it down to Ranger or Paragon. I plan on making the ranger in NF as well Ranger -Thumper is fun, but any good in PvE? what about areas were i can't KD? -Escape scythe was fun in PvP, but seems a little redundant in PvE -Barrage is my #1 choice right now. -Burning Arrow seems to be the only good Marks elite I can get early in NF -Ranger do have a large choice in play style, so I doubt i'll get bored -I have a ton of mods for ranger builds sitting around ^^ Paragon -SY/TntF seems to be the only good PvE build -I've heard it makes the game ridiculously easy though -would it take a while to get the PvE skills? How much do Elite Para tomes go for? If i remember right, the elite (Focused Anger i think) is a fair way into NF Few more things -I plan on making this my title hunter. i will be going for survivor, which has a better chance of living? :P -I have a basic understanding of the two classes. I read stickies on both forums and did my research -Any tips, builds, or constructive opinions welcomed Last edited by Dras; May 03, 2008 at 09:01 PM // 21:01..

May 03, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12	#2
the savage nornbear Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2008 Guild: The Raging Cadavers [rage] Profession: R/	rangers are outrageous. good times

May 03, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40	#4
I Is Special Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Guild: To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE] Profession: W/	Just because you're going to make it a title hunter->>Choose Paragon, No doubt about it.

May 03, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42	#5
the savage nornbear Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2008 Guild: The Raging Cadavers [rage] Profession: R/	Why is a Paragon better for title hunting? I'm a bit confused by that idea.

May 03, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50	#6
Kyomi Tachibana Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oregon, USA Guild: Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB] Profession: P/W	[Save yourselves] and [there's nothing to fear] are the reasons why a Paragon is easier to title hunt with. Leave the dazing to a hero.

May 03, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52	#7
the savage nornbear Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2008 Guild: The Raging Cadavers [rage] Profession: R/	meh. maybe its just personal preferance. i almost never run with a imbagon and i dont have troubles. sure it will be easier with a para but do you really wanna wear a dress?

May 03, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58	#8
Dras Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2008 Guild: [BOOM] Profession: D/	i just noticed something...TntF is 15 energy and aggressive refrain is 25. any help on energy management if i roll a para? oh and can anyone link the Sy/TntF build?

May 03, 2008, 10:06 PM // 22:06	#9
Kyomi Tachibana Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oregon, USA Guild: Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB] Profession: P/W	The energy management comes from spamming SY and energy gain through Leadership. I'll find the build in a moment.

May 03, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38	#16
sir fluffums Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Droknar's Forge Guild: Just type slah resign [Noob] Profession: W/	i feel like pragons may be bettter for living longer (better armor) but rangers still have a good track record for the "Living game" due to range. and it seems like youll be better at ranger hacing so many mods liying around and i personally love rangers. flaming barrrage/splinter barrage Ftw!!

May 04, 2008, 02:39 AM // 02:39	#17
Dras Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2008 Guild: [BOOM] Profession: D/	kk, i rolled my Para, she has a nice vamp spear and sheild :P ty to everyone who gave their opinion

May 04, 2008, 04:29 AM // 04:29	#18
Commander Ryker Site Contributor Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: R/	There have been at least 20 other threads started asking the same question over and over. Please use search next time.