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bibliotheek357 · Mar 27, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

What are the best daggers for an assassin? I use a build that includes bleeding and poison, and i already have droknars knives. But would a weapon with all the same buffs and an inscription be even better? My droknars knives cant be upgraded by inscriptions..

FlamingMetroid · Mar 27, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

In PvE, zealous
also move this to the assassin forums, where we also have an on-going "best sin build" discussion.

Snow Bunny · Mar 27, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Vampiric/Zealous, 15^50, +30, customized.

Done.

MithranArkanere · Mar 27, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

If you say 'weapon' and not just daggers... then I'll go for a +20% armor penetration hornbow.

You can do wonders with one of those and a correct build.

Stormlord Alex · Mar 27, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Weapon switching is /win.

Zealous 15^50 +30hp
Vamp 15^50 +30hp
Elemental 15^50 +30hp
and a set with +5energy for emergencies/DP

Mork from Ork · Mar 27, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Vampiric/Zealous, 15^50, +30, customized.

Done.

The problem with 15^50, though, is that it is only 15% of the base dmg and daggers have really low base dmg of 7-17. So you are really only getting 2.5 extra dmg per hit max. (Even with the higher chance of a double hit high crit gives you, I'm not sure it's worth it)

Overall - I think I prefer the +5 energy inscription since it gives me a little more room to set up protection skills or get my first attack string off without worrying about energy.

As a general rule I also prefer +20% enchanting instead of +30 health since I'm usually depending more on enchants than my armor or hp to keep me alive.

RavagerOfDreams · Mar 27, 2008, 10:52 PM // 22:52

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Weapon switching is /win.

Zealous 15^50 +30hp
Vamp 15^50 +30hp
Elemental 15^50 +30hp
and a set with +5energy for emergencies/DP

/agreed

Coloneh · Mar 27, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

zealous +5e +5al

flettir · Mar 28, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

I don't believe in 15^50 for sins.
woot, i get 15% more damage off my uber 7-17!
that adds 1.05-2.55 damage.
Personally, I prefer a +5e mod on assassins, the extra energy comes in handy very often.
And yes, zealous +30 for pve, or maybe 20% ench depending on the build.

Chthon · Mar 28, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

Zealous 15^50 +5AL
Vamp 15^50 +5AL
Elemental 15^50 +AL
Longbow/Flatbow

(And if you're willing to spend the inventory space, keep some +30hp and +5e ones in your inventory in case of big DP.)

dargon · Mar 28, 2008, 04:57 AM // 04:57

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Originally Posted by bibliotheek357

What are the best daggers for an assassin? I use a build that includes bleeding and poison, and i already have droknars knives. But would a weapon with all the same buffs and an inscription be even better? My droknars knives cant be upgraded by inscriptions..

Silly Rabbit, you've asked the question that simply can't be answered. The best weapon for your build is what you think it is. Some people swear by +AL, some by +HP. Some like sundering, others like vampiric. The best idea for you is to look at your build(s) and decide what would work best for them.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Mar 28, 2008, 05:20 AM // 05:20

I would say zealous +5 energy and +5/7 armro cause face it sins got much to little armor to be front liners.

Shadowmere · Mar 28, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

I'd say the only thing that's absolutely mandatory for a good set of assassin daggers is a zealous mod.

Honestly, with a half decent crit rate a zealous mod>all your energy issues

use any kind of IAS on top of that and you'll wonder why any assassin would ever need to even look at their energy bar.

aside from that the rest is more personal choice, +hp, +armor, or w/e +dmg% you like.

Quaker · Mar 28, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42

As with all these discussions, the difference between one damage type and the other is minimal at best. Use whatever you want and what "fits" your build. Ignore all the posts that say this or that sux or that you must use this or that.

N E D M · Mar 29, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

also
Droks knives cant be upgraded with an inscription, but they have one built in...
so they are not "worse" per say than another max daggers of same stats with inscription

Konig Des Todes · Mar 29, 2008, 10:42 AM // 10:42

set 1: Daggers: Vampiric, 15^50, +30
set 2: Daggers: Zealous, 15^50, +30
set 3: Daggers: Element, +5 energy, +20% enchant *if you don't have a solo build at all and don't plan to get one, then use +30*
set 4: Flat bow: 20/20, 15^50, +30

For PvE, thats my opinion

McMullen · Mar 29, 2008, 12:32 PM // 12:32

Also, avoid sundering mods for daggers.

Coloneh · Mar 29, 2008, 02:13 PM // 14:13

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Originally Posted by McMullen

Also, avoid sundering mods for everything.

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Food · Mar 29, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

If you say 'weapon' and not just daggers... then I'll go for a +20% armor penetration hornbow.

You can do wonders with one of those and a correct build.

Lol, are you semi-retarded or just plain stupid? Hornbows are the worst weapon in the game, I know that some scrubs may disagree and insist that 10% penatration is life changing. Don't listen to this guy.

Voltaic Ectoplasm · May 26, 2008, 05:02 PM // 17:02

this is a lil late but:
Weapon Set 1 : E+5 Vamp 20%/+30
Weapon Set 2 : E+5 Zealous 20%/+30
Weapon Set 3 : E+5 Elemental 20%/+30
Weapon Set 4 : Casters Wep + Shield

Mar 27, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10	#1
bibliotheek357 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2008	optimal assassin weapon What are the best daggers for an assassin? I use a build that includes bleeding and poison, and i already have droknars knives. But would a weapon with all the same buffs and an inscription be even better? My droknars knives cant be upgraded by inscriptions..

Mar 27, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11	#2
FlamingMetroid Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: standing on your last control point, while the rest of your team is to busy killing mine Guild: The Luminaries [Lumi] Profession: A/	In PvE, zealous also move this to the assassin forums, where we also have an on-going "best sin build" discussion.

Mar 27, 2008, 08:13 PM // 20:13	#3
Snow Bunny Alcoholic From Yale Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]	Vampiric/Zealous, 15^50, +30, customized. Done.

Mar 27, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23	#4
MithranArkanere Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo Guild: Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO] Profession: E/	If you say 'weapon' and not just daggers... then I'll go for a +20% armor penetration hornbow. You can do wonders with one of those and a correct build.

Mar 27, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35	#5
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	Weapon switching is /win. Zealous 15^50 +30hp Vamp 15^50 +30hp Elemental 15^50 +30hp and a set with +5energy for emergencies/DP

Mar 27, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04	#8
Coloneh Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: D/W	zealous +5e +5al

Mar 28, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58	#9
flettir Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Kabal of the Righteous [Seed] Profession: Mo/	I don't believe in 15^50 for sins. woot, i get 15% more damage off my uber 7-17! that adds 1.05-2.55 damage. Personally, I prefer a +5e mod on assassins, the extra energy comes in handy very often. And yes, zealous +30 for pve, or maybe 20% ench depending on the build.

Mar 28, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#10
Chthon Grotto Attendant Join Date: Apr 2007	Zealous 15^50 +5AL Vamp 15^50 +5AL Elemental 15^50 +AL Longbow/Flatbow (And if you're willing to spend the inventory space, keep some +30hp and +5e ones in your inventory in case of big DP.)

Mar 28, 2008, 05:20 AM // 05:20	#12
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	I would say zealous +5 energy and +5/7 armro cause face it sins got much to little armor to be front liners.

Mar 28, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30	#13
Shadowmere Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: The Grim Squeakers [REAP] Profession: N/	I'd say the only thing that's absolutely mandatory for a good set of assassin daggers is a zealous mod. Honestly, with a half decent crit rate a zealous mod>all your energy issues use any kind of IAS on top of that and you'll wonder why any assassin would ever need to even look at their energy bar. aside from that the rest is more personal choice, +hp, +armor, or w/e +dmg% you like.

Mar 28, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42	#14
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	As with all these discussions, the difference between one damage type and the other is minimal at best. Use whatever you want and what "fits" your build. Ignore all the posts that say this or that sux or that you must use this or that.

Mar 29, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00	#15
N E D M Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Officer's Club Guild: Gameamp Guides [AMP]	also Droks knives cant be upgraded with an inscription, but they have one built in... so they are not "worse" per say than another max daggers of same stats with inscription

Mar 29, 2008, 10:42 AM // 10:42	#16
Konig Des Todes Ooo, pretty flower Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Citadel of the Decayed Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore] Profession: N/	set 1: Daggers: Vampiric, 15^50, +30 set 2: Daggers: Zealous, 15^50, +30 set 3: Daggers: Element, +5 energy, +20% enchant if you don't have a solo build at all and don't plan to get one, then use +30 set 4: Flat bow: 20/20, 15^50, +30 For PvE, thats my opinion

Mar 29, 2008, 12:32 PM // 12:32	#17
McMullen Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2005 Profession: R/W	Also, avoid sundering mods for daggers.

May 26, 2008, 05:02 PM // 17:02	#20
Voltaic Ectoplasm Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mallyx's pimped out Crib Profession: Mo/A	this is a lil late but: Weapon Set 1 : E+5 Vamp 20%/+30 Weapon Set 2 : E+5 Zealous 20%/+30 Weapon Set 3 : E+5 Elemental 20%/+30 Weapon Set 4 : Casters Wep + Shield