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a-kyle · Jun 21, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

SF updates?
I hear about how they will apparently destroy the economy and what not...but what is an SF update?

scythefromunder · Jun 21, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53

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Originally Posted by a-kyle

SF updates?
I hear about how they will apparently destroy the economy and what not...but what is an SF update?

A Shadow Form update. It hasnt happen and probably wont.

Maca · Jun 21, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

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Originally Posted by a-kyle

SF updates?
I hear about how they will apparently destroy the economy and what not...but what is an SF update?

Nerfing the Shadow form, most likely by reducing duration or increasing recharge..but I don't think it will happen.

Kook~NBK~ · Jun 21, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04

The Shadow Form update that has already happened is what's being largely credited for "destroying the ecomomy." With [skill]Shadow Form[/skill] as it is now, there's a farming build that allows people to keep SF up indefinitely for farming in the UW.

Nerfing SF at this point would probably end this ecto-farming frenzy and allow ecto prices to rise once again.

a-kyle · Jun 21, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

I c, so take out the SF and ruin the economy?

scythefromunder · Jun 21, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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Originally Posted by a-kyle

I c, so take out the SF and ruin the economy?

They wont take it out. They would just nerf it (Ex. : they would reduce the duration or increase the energy cost.)

Omnidragon42 · Jun 21, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15

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Originally Posted by a-kyle

I c, so take out the SF and ruin the economy?

No. Shadow form was recently buffed (made better) so now it's easier to maintain 100% of the time. This allows people to easily solo the chaos plains in the underworld, thus leading to huge influx of ectoplasm which many people claim "ruined the GW economy".

a-kyle · Jun 21, 2008, 06:48 PM // 18:48

whats nerf mean?
sorry never herd the term

scythefromunder · Jun 21, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

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Originally Posted by a-kyle

whats nerf mean?
sorry never herd the term

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Originally Posted by Guild Wars Wiki

Nerf
To nerf is gaming jargon that roughly means "to weaken" or "to make less effective." The term originated from the Nerf brand of foam toys.

The term is used by players of computer games (not just Guild Wars) to mean the reducing of certain content's effectiveness that the developers of the game have deemed unbalanced, over-used or an exploit (e.g. reducing the bonus of certain weapons, reducing the damage of certain spells, etc.).

The opposite of a nerf, i.e. making something stronger or more effective is usually called a "buff". However, the two terms often blend in with each other, if, for example, the monsters in a particular farming spot are "buffed", it can be said that the farming spot has been "nerfed". Similar comparisons can also be made in the PvP community.

Nerfing is usually done by releasing a game update. In Guild Wars, there is no way to avoid "nerfing" as updates are automatically downloaded

Examples
Examples of nerfing done in Guild Wars:

The spell Chain Lightning was made weaker in the summer of 2005 by reducing its damage and increasing its activation time. This made it less potent and easier to disrupt. This was in response to the domination of PvP teams that were composed of Air Magic spikers.
The explorable areas Witman's Folly and the Underworld had new/modified monsters introduced to make them harder for players to farm "solo." The additions and modifications comprised of adding an enchantment removing creature because enchantments were the secret to being able to farm that area alone.
Around the release of Factions, the number of minions was capped based on the player's rank in Death Magic. This was to place a cap on the effectiveness of minion masters

This quote was taken from http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

Jun 21, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48	#1
a-kyle Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: A/R	What are SF updates? I hear about how they will apparently destroy the economy and what not...but what is an SF update?

Jun 21, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04	#4
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	The Shadow Form update that has already happened is what's being largely credited for "destroying the ecomomy." With [skill]Shadow Form[/skill] as it is now, there's a farming build that allows people to keep SF up indefinitely for farming in the UW. Nerfing SF at this point would probably end this ecto-farming frenzy and allow ecto prices to rise once again.

Jun 21, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10	#5
a-kyle Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: A/R	I c, so take out the SF and ruin the economy?

Jun 21, 2008, 06:48 PM // 18:48	#8
a-kyle Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: A/R	whats nerf mean? sorry never herd the term