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dethorpe · Aug 19, 2008, 03:12 PM // 15:12

quick skill question, does conjure flame (no effect unless your weapon deals fire damage) work on a bow if you have ignite arrows preperation active? Im asking as IA dosn't state that your arrows are doing fire damage, whereas Kindle arrows does, so was wondering if there is a difference?

Thanks

The_Kai · Aug 19, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13

ignite arrows doesn't change ur bow dmg, just make a explosion dealing fire dmg

sigshane · Aug 19, 2008, 04:03 PM // 16:03

It is a good question, OP, and it still hasn't been answered. I wondered this too.

Do you HAVE to have a bow which specifically says "Fire Damage", or does it work with fire-based preparations or skills, by virtue of the nature of the prep/skill?

Know what? I bet a fiery bowstring would make it work, except for green bows that wouldn't work either...

According to wiki, the following preparations/skills deal fire damage:

Ignite Arrows
Kindle Arrows
Conflagration
Greater Conflag

zelgadissan · Aug 19, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Honestly can't say I've ever tried, but here's the concise description of Ignite Arrows:

Preparation. (24 seconds.) Your arrows deal 3...15...18 fire damage to target and foes adjacent to target.

So either it should, or the description needs rewording to mention that it's fire damage on top of the normal piercing damage. That said, if you're running a conjure there's not much reason to not just use the fiery bowstring. You should really go out and buy a bow you can mod instead of a green. If you like the Deldrimor Flatbow, get this one.

BTW, in answering NassauBob's question, it should theoretically work if you have a skill converting to fire damage. It's the same reason why [[Ebon Dust Aura] can trigger after using [[Staggering Force].

sigshane · Aug 19, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelgadissan

...there's not much reason to not just use the fiery bowstring.

That is, unless you are using a green bow, such as Deldrimor Flatbow or other one. As far as I know, you can't apply upgrades to green weapons.

Killed u man · Aug 19, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by NassauBob

That is, unless you are using a green bow, such as Deldrimor Flatbow or other one. As far as I know, you can't apply upgrades to green weapons.

Or simple Vamp + conjure = Win

Trylo · Aug 19, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

i believe kindle does (did). Its kind of hard to test now since they changed conjure not to do separate damage. however, now that it is added to the bow damage, i dont know if preparations do proc it. im pretty sure the conflagration rituals would though, but using a ritual for a measly +10 damage you might want to rethink the build.

Painbringer · Aug 19, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39

For green bows I use the following with conjure flame

Forgerunner
Fire damage: 15-28 (req. 9 Marksmanship)
Damage +15% (while in a stance)
Health +30

RPGmaniac · Aug 19, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Kindle Arrows will trigger Conjure Flame, but not Ignite Arrows. The only fire damage Ignite arrows deals is from the explosion. The arrows themselves are still considered piercing damage, which doesn't trigger Conjure Flame.

Conflagration will trigger Conjure too, but it's unreliable because it can be killed by the enemy.

Any skill/effect in the game that converts your damage to fire will trigger Conjure Flame. Same with the other conjures.

Quaker · Aug 19, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32

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Originally Posted by NassauBob

That is, unless you are using a green bow, such as Deldrimor Flatbow or other one. As far as I know, you can't apply upgrades to green weapons.

All of the Deldrimor weapons are available as a gold, inscribable version from:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Grand_Mason_Stonecleaver

although, I'm not sure why the Deldrimor Flatbow was mentioned in particular.

Aug 19, 2008, 03:12 PM // 15:12	#1
dethorpe Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2008 Profession: R/E	Fire damage quick skill question, does conjure flame (no effect unless your weapon deals fire damage) work on a bow if you have ignite arrows preperation active? Im asking as IA dosn't state that your arrows are doing fire damage, whereas Kindle arrows does, so was wondering if there is a difference? Thanks

Aug 19, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13	#2
The_Kai Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: HA Inter 1 Profession: E/	ignite arrows doesn't change ur bow dmg, just make a explosion dealing fire dmg Last edited by The_Kai; Aug 19, 2008 at 03:16 PM // 15:16..

Aug 19, 2008, 04:03 PM // 16:03	#3
sigshane Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Augusta, GA Profession: R/	It is a good question, OP, and it still hasn't been answered. I wondered this too. Do you HAVE to have a bow which specifically says "Fire Damage", or does it work with fire-based preparations or skills, by virtue of the nature of the prep/skill? Know what? I bet a fiery bowstring would make it work, except for green bows that wouldn't work either... According to wiki, the following preparations/skills deal fire damage: Ignite Arrows Kindle Arrows Conflagration Greater Conflag Last edited by sigshane; Aug 19, 2008 at 04:08 PM // 16:08..

Aug 19, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05	#4
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	Honestly can't say I've ever tried, but here's the concise description of Ignite Arrows: Preparation. (24 seconds.) Your arrows deal 3...15...18 fire damage to target and foes adjacent to target. So either it should, or the description needs rewording to mention that it's fire damage on top of the normal piercing damage. That said, if you're running a conjure there's not much reason to not just use the fiery bowstring. You should really go out and buy a bow you can mod instead of a green. If you like the Deldrimor Flatbow, get this one. BTW, in answering NassauBob's question, it should theoretically work if you have a skill converting to fire damage. It's the same reason why [[Ebon Dust Aura] can trigger after using [[Staggering Force]. Last edited by zelgadissan; Aug 19, 2008 at 04:13 PM // 16:13..

Aug 19, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19	#7
Trylo Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: [Here] \| CKOD Profession: E/R	i believe kindle does (did). Its kind of hard to test now since they changed conjure not to do separate damage. however, now that it is added to the bow damage, i dont know if preparations do proc it. im pretty sure the conflagration rituals would though, but using a ritual for a measly +10 damage you might want to rethink the build.

Aug 19, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39	#8
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	For green bows I use the following with conjure flame Forgerunner Fire damage: 15-28 (req. 9 Marksmanship) Damage +15% (while in a stance) Health +30

Aug 19, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38	#9
RPGmaniac Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	Kindle Arrows will trigger Conjure Flame, but not Ignite Arrows. The only fire damage Ignite arrows deals is from the explosion. The arrows themselves are still considered piercing damage, which doesn't trigger Conjure Flame. Conflagration will trigger Conjure too, but it's unreliable because it can be killed by the enemy. Any skill/effect in the game that converts your damage to fire will trigger Conjure Flame. Same with the other conjures.