How do you predict Xunlai tournament? - Guild Wars Forums

Darklight Derv · Sep 13, 2008, 07:58 AM // 07:58

Hey, I''m just a little bit curious as to how people predict the xunlai tournament house and get a lot of reward points. I tried setting mine up with the GvG, 1v1s with the highest Q.P. but didn't get that many. Are their certain ones to vote for that don't usually have high Q.P. but are better? (Please close if this thread is already been made)

~Darklight~

Operative 14 · Sep 13, 2008, 08:15 AM // 08:15

To be honest I just put the names that sound nice in random order down the list. Netted me 80 points this most recent bout.

I would be curious to see how the 'pros' do it, though. Probably just knowing the teams and knowing how good they are from experience I suppose.

psycore · Sep 13, 2008, 08:17 AM // 08:17

I do exactly the same thing, just pick the names I like the best and drop them in random order =P

Horus · Sep 13, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19

random ftw

or if there is some guild name i heard of before, then i put it a bit higher, but still always random - most i got from one was 175 points 2 months ago^^

Pleikki · Sep 13, 2008, 08:25 AM // 08:25

I usually look how guilds done before but 1vs1 i do 90% random

Sun Fired Blank · Sep 13, 2008, 08:30 AM // 08:30

In general you don't actually pick them. Even if you pick the players most likely to make top 8, you're unlikely to pick the right order (mostly because of shit pairings), and for HB, you're lucky if you get anyone (but folks like Massacre and Juju are usually good picks).

Edit: in general guilds with lots of QPs don't do as well, something to keep in mind.

matthew5276 · Sep 13, 2008, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Its hard to predict acurately if you don't observe and watch the guild ladder a lot. I regularly get 125 rp's +, but I can spend whole mornings on observe, checking the ladder, and speaking to tolkano to look at last nights tournaments. QP's, for those of you who don't know, are qualifier points, you get up to 8 when you participate in a daily tournament. So, the guilds with the most QP's may just farm the 'dead' aT's, where there are something only about 3 teams who play, thereby guarenteeing them 6 QP's.

If you don't have enough intrest in GvG to observe a lot, take a while before making your predictions to check the guild ladder
http://www.guildwars.com/competitive/ladder/default.php
Look at the last colume where it shows the QP's... if a team have 20 or more, they can participate in the monthly. Look down the ladder at every team who have 20 or more QP's, and a generally safe way is just to put the teams in order of rank. For example, if guild ranks 1,3,6,7 all have 20 QP's, place them in that order. While you then miss out all of the new guilds, or smurfs and all that, it is a much better way of prediciting that just looking at the QP's. More QP's just mean they are more active in tournies, and does not mean they are better.

The Arching Healer · Sep 13, 2008, 09:08 AM // 09:08

I usually copy paste the gvg prediction and make the 1v1 random.

Horus · Sep 13, 2008, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthew5276

Its hard to predict acurately if you don't observe and watch the guild ladder a lot. I regularly get 125 rp's +, but I can spend whole mornings on observe, checking the ladder, and speaking to tolkano to look at last nights tournaments. QP's, for those of you who don't know, are qualifier points, you get up to 8 when you participate in a daily tournament. So, the guilds with the most QP's may just farm the 'dead' aT's, where there are something only about 3 teams who play, thereby guarenteeing them 6 QP's.

If you don't have enough intrest in GvG to observe a lot, take a while before making your predictions to check the guild ladder
http://www.guildwars.com/competitive/ladder/default.php
Look at the last colume where it shows the QP's... if a team have 20 or more, they can participate in the monthly. Look down the ladder at every team who have 20 or more QP's, and a generally safe way is just to put the teams in order of rank. For example, if guild ranks 1,3,6,7 all have 20 QP's, place them in that order. While you then miss out all of the new guilds, or smurfs and all that, it is a much better way of prediciting that just looking at the QP's. More QP's just mean they are more active in tournies, and does not mean they are better.

never knew qhat QP actually means, so i thought i always added the ones with the least QP on my predictions ^_^

DutchSmurf · Sep 13, 2008, 10:21 AM // 10:21

I usually read the prediction thread(s) to find out if certain guilds are going to play or not. And if they do, how much chance they give themselves. For the rest, in GvG you basically have a small amount of certain picks that get to top 16 almost every time and depending on pairing can get into the top 8.

MirkoTeran · Sep 13, 2008, 10:24 AM // 10:24

Random pool. Good enough for some free zkeys.

King Kong · Sep 13, 2008, 01:03 PM // 13:03

Whats Xunlai tournament?

englitdaudelin · Sep 13, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

I watch the ladder and do some observing. From the Xunlai Tournament House, you can look at the results of the last few months' worth of MAT's, which can at least indicate who's been doing consistently well. A team in the last few top 8's? Sure, I'll put them in the top 8 somewhere--maybe up a few spots from previously, maybe the same.
165 points last month. 105 this month--which is clearly not so hot. But it's still free Z Keys.

MithranArkanere · Sep 13, 2008, 01:29 PM // 13:29

I just put the ones with Higher classification points first.

TurinPT · Sep 13, 2008, 01:34 PM // 13:34

I read the 1v1 and gvg prediction threads. ~100 points each month.

*Darcy* · Sep 13, 2008, 02:55 PM // 14:55

@TurinPT - What predictions? Nothing on guildwars.com since May tournaments.

HawkofStorms · Sep 13, 2008, 03:12 PM // 15:12

Keep in mind...
people with high qualifier points may just be people who grind a LOT and play in tournaments frequently. They may lose a lot, but the fact that they play a lot makes them have a high number of QP.
Just like how being Rank 9 doesn't mean you are a better player then somebody who is rank 4.

The BEST way to win points is to do some research (ie, read the PvP forum's here).
The second best way is to look on the Xunlai site for the tournment results from the last few months. Ie, look for guilds that usually finishes in the top 12 every month.
Also, 1v1 players can change their name every month, so it is much harder to do that with that methiod unless they use a similar word in all their character's names (like Smurf).

Midnight Harmony · Sep 13, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23

I choose the people and guilds with the highest point scores, or ones I know have done well in the past. I usually get between 50-100 reward points though I missed the boat this month.

Dronte · Sep 13, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28

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Originally Posted by Darcy

@TurinPT - What predictions? Nothing on guildwars.com since May tournaments.

Gladiators Arena -> Guild Battle & Hero vs Hero Arena section. You can find predictions there each month.

Parson Brown · Sep 13, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

For GvG, look at the winners from past months, you'll see a lot of repeat names. As for QP, many of the top guilds don't bother getting more than the required 20 points, so high QP only shows that they participated in more ATs.

It's a bit harder for 1v1 because many players change their names every month to try to hide their identity from opponents. This is because 1v1 has become very Rock-Paper-Scissors, and if you know your opponent uses Rock most of the time, then...
So I usually just pick random names.

Sep 13, 2008, 07:58 AM // 07:58	#1
Darklight Derv Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Spartas Greatest Heroes [WAR] Profession: D/A	How do you predict Xunlai tournament? Hey, I''m just a little bit curious as to how people predict the xunlai tournament house and get a lot of reward points. I tried setting mine up with the GvG, 1v1s with the highest Q.P. but didn't get that many. Are their certain ones to vote for that don't usually have high Q.P. but are better? (Please close if this thread is already been made) ~Darklight~

Sep 13, 2008, 08:30 AM // 08:30	#6
Sun Fired Blank Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2007	In general you don't actually pick them. Even if you pick the players most likely to make top 8, you're unlikely to pick the right order (mostly because of shit pairings), and for HB, you're lucky if you get anyone (but folks like Massacre and Juju are usually good picks). Edit: in general guilds with lots of QPs don't do as well, something to keep in mind. Last edited by Sun Fired Blank; Sep 13, 2008 at 08:41 AM // 08:41..

Sep 13, 2008, 02:55 PM // 14:55	#16
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	@TurinPT - What predictions? Nothing on guildwars.com since May tournaments. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also) Last edited by Darcy; Sep 13, 2008 at 03:02 PM // 15:02..

Sep 13, 2008, 08:15 AM // 08:15	#2
Operative 14 Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arizona, USA Guild: [OOP] Order of the Phoenix I	To be honest I just put the names that sound nice in random order down the list. Netted me 80 points this most recent bout. I would be curious to see how the 'pros' do it, though. Probably just knowing the teams and knowing how good they are from experience I suppose.

Sep 13, 2008, 08:17 AM // 08:17	#3
psycore Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	I do exactly the same thing, just pick the names I like the best and drop them in random order =P

Sep 13, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19	#4
Horus Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: www.godtguild.com Guild: Blades Of Burning Shadows [GoDT]-leader Profession: Mo/	random ftw or if there is some guild name i heard of before, then i put it a bit higher, but still always random - most i got from one was 175 points 2 months ago^^

Sep 13, 2008, 08:25 AM // 08:25	#5
Pleikki WTB q8 15^50 Weapons! Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: ???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]	I usually look how guilds done before but 1vs1 i do 90% random

Sep 13, 2008, 08:51 AM // 08:51	#7
matthew5276 Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Suprise Team Buttzhizzle [ban]	Its hard to predict acurately if you don't observe and watch the guild ladder a lot. I regularly get 125 rp's +, but I can spend whole mornings on observe, checking the ladder, and speaking to tolkano to look at last nights tournaments. QP's, for those of you who don't know, are qualifier points, you get up to 8 when you participate in a daily tournament. So, the guilds with the most QP's may just farm the 'dead' aT's, where there are something only about 3 teams who play, thereby guarenteeing them 6 QP's. If you don't have enough intrest in GvG to observe a lot, take a while before making your predictions to check the guild ladder http://www.guildwars.com/competitive/ladder/default.php Look at the last colume where it shows the QP's... if a team have 20 or more, they can participate in the monthly. Look down the ladder at every team who have 20 or more QP's, and a generally safe way is just to put the teams in order of rank. For example, if guild ranks 1,3,6,7 all have 20 QP's, place them in that order. While you then miss out all of the new guilds, or smurfs and all that, it is a much better way of prediciting that just looking at the QP's. More QP's just mean they are more active in tournies, and does not mean they are better.

Sep 13, 2008, 09:08 AM // 09:08	#8
The Arching Healer Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: Super Kaon Action Team [SuKa]	I usually copy paste the gvg prediction and make the 1v1 random.

Sep 13, 2008, 10:21 AM // 10:21	#10
DutchSmurf Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006	I usually read the prediction thread(s) to find out if certain guilds are going to play or not. And if they do, how much chance they give themselves. For the rest, in GvG you basically have a small amount of certain picks that get to top 16 almost every time and depending on pairing can get into the top 8.

Sep 13, 2008, 10:24 AM // 10:24	#11
MirkoTeran Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Slovenia Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS] Profession: Mo/	Random pool. Good enough for some free zkeys.

Sep 13, 2008, 01:03 PM // 13:03	#12
King Kong Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: W/R	Whats Xunlai tournament?

Sep 13, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15	#13
englitdaudelin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: East Coast Guild: Soldier's Union [SU] Profession: N/Me	I watch the ladder and do some observing. From the Xunlai Tournament House, you can look at the results of the last few months' worth of MAT's, which can at least indicate who's been doing consistently well. A team in the last few top 8's? Sure, I'll put them in the top 8 somewhere--maybe up a few spots from previously, maybe the same. 165 points last month. 105 this month--which is clearly not so hot. But it's still free Z Keys.

Sep 13, 2008, 01:29 PM // 13:29	#14
MithranArkanere Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo Guild: Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO] Profession: E/	I just put the ones with Higher classification points first.

Sep 13, 2008, 01:34 PM // 13:34	#15
TurinPT Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006	I read the 1v1 and gvg prediction threads. ~100 points each month.

Sep 13, 2008, 03:12 PM // 15:12	#17
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Keep in mind... people with high qualifier points may just be people who grind a LOT and play in tournaments frequently. They may lose a lot, but the fact that they play a lot makes them have a high number of QP. Just like how being Rank 9 doesn't mean you are a better player then somebody who is rank 4. The BEST way to win points is to do some research (ie, read the PvP forum's here). The second best way is to look on the Xunlai site for the tournment results from the last few months. Ie, look for guilds that usually finishes in the top 12 every month. Also, 1v1 players can change their name every month, so it is much harder to do that with that methiod unless they use a similar word in all their character's names (like Smurf).

Sep 13, 2008, 03:23 PM // 15:23	#18
Midnight Harmony Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South East England Guild: Everlasting Sacred Path [ESP] Profession: E/Me	I choose the people and guilds with the highest point scores, or ones I know have done well in the past. I usually get between 50-100 reward points though I missed the boat this month.

Sep 13, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42	#20
Parson Brown Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In ur base... Guild: The one true [Hope] Profession: E/	For GvG, look at the winners from past months, you'll see a lot of repeat names. As for QP, many of the top guilds don't bother getting more than the required 20 points, so high QP only shows that they participated in more ATs. It's a bit harder for 1v1 because many players change their names every month to try to hide their identity from opponents. This is because 1v1 has become very Rock-Paper-Scissors, and if you know your opponent uses Rock most of the time, then... So I usually just pick random names.