Best way to level hero pets? - Guild Wars Forums

Tommy's · Oct 01, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Hi all

I wanted to test how 3 Thumber heroes would work in a vanquish, and therefor I got 3 nice little polar bears for my rangers. But they are still lvl5, and I want that go to 20

So I was wondering what the best method is to level my heroes pets. I dont care about if they get dire or not, still prefer dire. Myself thought jumping into a wurm, but since I just got my lb/ss title maxed I'm really sick of that.

Looking forward to more options,

Lucy Gwyneth

Schuldig · Oct 01, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24

Same as others, level them to 20 before you tame them (death leveling - strip your clothes and let the pet kill u again and again until it is level 20), it's fastest but only brings a dire pet.

[Morkai] · Oct 01, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Or you could get 10 really cheap sup runes, put them on a crappy armor set. (one for you hero) and let the pet kill you both on the shrine. You can salvage/over-write the hero runes without breaking anything.

When it's level 20, hit "charm animal" on the hero.

MagmaRed · Oct 01, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Wurms in the Sulfurous Wastes.

Numa Pompilius · Oct 01, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Anything you can kill tons of quickly - undead in sulfur wastes, trolls outside Droknars, raptors outside Rata sum, charr in nolani academy... You get the picture.
The pet doesn't even have to be alive to gain exp, or even on the radar.

syphonus · Oct 02, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56

DL is best by far. Also, if you do the above and get tons of sup runes, at 60% DP you're being rezzed with 1 hp. If a hero's doing it via [Resurrect], it means you'll die upon rez but the exp will still go to the pet. it should mean that the pet will evolve elder (although I usually evolve dire myself, and haven't tried it.)

I'd use Numa's way if you are trying to evolve a hearty pet.

Xunlai Guru Agent · Oct 02, 2008, 05:11 AM // 05:11

Death leveling is the way to go.

Numa Pompilius · Oct 02, 2008, 08:50 AM // 08:50

Speaking of that... I've always wondered why people would NOT want a hearty pet?

A hearty pet has 120 more health than a dire, definitely useful as the pet will do a lot of tanking, and although its base attack is an average 7 lower than a dire's, most of its damage wont come from the base attacks anyway.

Luminarus · Oct 02, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41

Why would u use a weapon that has +5energy instead of 15>50 (example), the pet is ur weapon u wont the most dmaage.

Best option is death lvl, then make the hero catch it.

Numa Pompilius · Oct 02, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59

But pets, unlike weapons, can be killed.

The choice is between one pet which has 420 health and averages 13.1 base damage per second, or a pet which has 540 health and does 9.8 base damae per second. There is no difference in damage from skills (which is where the real damage output of pets is).

I just don't see why one'd want a more easily killed pet just because it does a measly 3.3 more damage per second.

gerlin · Oct 02, 2008, 11:47 AM // 11:47

If you want dire pet, the easiest would be is to capture the lvl 20 dire Black Moa pet. He's easy to cap, spawns good and is always dire, also he looks okish.

Schuldig · Oct 02, 2008, 12:00 PM // 12:00

For my ranger I prefer a dire pet too (esp. with faster attacking the dmg sums up), for all my other classes that don't use the pet as dmg dealer but mostly as tank I go for hearty (even when it takes awfully more efford than dl a dire pet while being afk) because the extra health is great.
My hearty pet tanks Magni way better than my dire pet so I can do dmg from afar and the pets gets the dmg ;D
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/User...ug/bison_arena

Ofc if u want your pet to die faster u need a dire one too... so depends for what you use your pet.

For my heroes I usually choose that fast way and tame a lvl15 or 20 one XD
I didn't try thumper yet but my heroes can't use a normal beastmaster build efficiently. >.>

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Originally Posted by syphonus

Also, if you do the above and get tons of sup runes, at 60% DP you're being rezzed with 1 hp. If a hero's doing it via [Resurrect], it means you'll die upon rez but the exp will still go to the pet. it should mean that the pet will evolve elder (although I usually evolve dire myself, and haven't tried it.)

Wow didn't know that. That's great. For my heroes I'd prefer an elder one over a dire one.

imnotyourmother · Oct 02, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21

My two cents.

Go to GW:EN Borial Station and grab the Boss Scroll that give 175% more Xp for 5 minutes. Hit Hard mode and run with your hero. There are Snow wurms there Kill them for 596/2 XP per Kill. There are 10 snow wurms that you can kiil without dying. Leave the OAKS alone they will kill you.

This is how I lvld all of my Hero's from Night fall that started at lvl 15/ I lvld them in about 20-25 minutes. Bring a SPEED Running skill that saves time runnning to kill the Wurms.

It should also be noted that when the wurms drop gold they drop 100+ gold in hard mode and they drop Gold and Lockpicks. You will also find 1 or 2 chests here in this location so if Chest hunting or UNLUCKY title is your Goal then this is the place in hard mode. The Drop rate for Golds from the Chest is around 90%

So try that.

Tommy's · Oct 02, 2008, 01:57 PM // 13:57

Thnx for all the suggestions

The prob is: I alrdy capped the pets at lvl 5..
So should I dump them again and go deathlevel them? But how I DL the pets of my hero, as I cant take off their armor?

Quaker · Oct 02, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Speaking of that... I've always wondered why people would NOT want a hearty pet?

I think that, if pets naturally evolved into Dire and getting them to be Hearty involved some sort of special process (basically the reverse of what it now is) most people would have Hearty pets.

But, basically, I agree with you. I want my pet(s) to be basically blockers/meat-shields (plus the occasional Disrupting Lunge, Poisonous Bite, etc.) so I'm more interested in them surviving as long as possible with as little attention from me and/or the healers as possible.

Quaker · Oct 02, 2008, 03:19 PM // 15:19

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Originally Posted by Crucist Ovv

So should I dump them again and go deathlevel them? But how I DL the pets of my hero, as I cant take off their armor?

Dump them or just level them normally. I just dumped all my pets (mine and my heroes) and got another new set of cats. To level them, I just did a few runs through CoF (& Warband) and helped a buddy with a few quests. They were level 20 within about 5 or 6 hours of play - but then again, I wasn't in any hurry and I wanted them to be hearty.

It may not have been clear in Berek's post, but what he was basically saying was to buy 5 cheap superior runes (any ranger kind) and put them on a hero. Don't give the hero a weapon or any skill that causes damage (or health regen) and no Insignias. You can then DL the hero - rinse and repeat for the other 2.

The heroes armor and the Runes/Insignias will not be damaged or lost when you move them around.

Schuldig · Oct 02, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04

The hero doesn't matter for dl. All you need is yourself and a monk that has a rezskill that resurrects with 25% but doesn't teleport.
You strip your armor, you don't need sup runes but they'll help to die faster the first few times. You can use a vamp weapon too or use a sacrifice skill (I used BIP on the monk to get low on health).

You just let yourself getting killed by the pet and rezzed by the monk then you get killed by the pet again etc. While rezzing the monk will have aggro but since he's all his armor it's no prob and after rez the pet will aggro you again (since you're weaker) so you can leave the monk in range too.

You just go afk (make sure healing skills are blocked on the monk) and when you return after 40-60 min and the pet is lvl 20 u send the hero that is supposed to tame the pet and tame it.

Destro Maniak · Oct 02, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

Well suprisingly everyone missed the real problem.

You... ermm... cannot actually use thumpers in vanquish, at least you cannot use them as good as 3 necro way

Quaker · Oct 03, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

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Originally Posted by Destro Maniak

Well suprisingly everyone missed the real problem.

You... ermm... cannot actually use thumpers in vanquish, at least you cannot use them as good as 3 necro way

Well, no actually, nobody "missed" the problem. There was no "problem", even you admit you can use thumpers if you want to. Ther was no question about using thumpers either - only a question about leveling hero's pets.

Oct 01, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43	#1
Tommy's Furnace Stoker Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: [Bone] Profession: Mo/	Best way to level hero pets? Hi all I wanted to test how 3 Thumber heroes would work in a vanquish, and therefor I got 3 nice little polar bears for my rangers. But they are still lvl5, and I want that go to 20 So I was wondering what the best method is to level my heroes pets. I dont care about if they get dire or not, still prefer dire. Myself thought jumping into a wurm, but since I just got my lb/ss title maxed I'm really sick of that. Looking forward to more options, Lucy Gwyneth

Oct 01, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24	#2
Schuldig Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Profession: N/	Same as others, level them to 20 before you tame them (death leveling - strip your clothes and let the pet kill u again and again until it is level 20), it's fastest but only brings a dire pet.

Oct 01, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28	#3
[Morkai] Jungle Guide Join Date: Oct 2007 Guild: Heroes of Elonia [HE] Profession: W/Rt	Or you could get 10 really cheap sup runes, put them on a crappy armor set. (one for you hero) and let the pet kill you both on the shrine. You can salvage/over-write the hero runes without breaking anything. When it's level 20, hit "charm animal" on the hero.

Oct 01, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55	#4
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Wurms in the Sulfurous Wastes.

Oct 01, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#5
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	Anything you can kill tons of quickly - undead in sulfur wastes, trolls outside Droknars, raptors outside Rata sum, charr in nolani academy... You get the picture. The pet doesn't even have to be alive to gain exp, or even on the radar.

Oct 02, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56	#6
syphonus Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Dirtiest Parts Of My Mind Guild: Phlying Skwirls[PS] Profession: N/	DL is best by far. Also, if you do the above and get tons of sup runes, at 60% DP you're being rezzed with 1 hp. If a hero's doing it via [Resurrect], it means you'll die upon rez but the exp will still go to the pet. it should mean that the pet will evolve elder (although I usually evolve dire myself, and haven't tried it.) I'd use Numa's way if you are trying to evolve a hearty pet.

Oct 02, 2008, 05:11 AM // 05:11	#7
Xunlai Guru Agent Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006	Death leveling is the way to go.

Oct 02, 2008, 08:50 AM // 08:50	#8
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	Speaking of that... I've always wondered why people would NOT want a hearty pet? A hearty pet has 120 more health than a dire, definitely useful as the pet will do a lot of tanking, and although its base attack is an average 7 lower than a dire's, most of its damage wont come from the base attacks anyway.

Oct 02, 2008, 09:41 AM // 09:41	#9
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Why would u use a weapon that has +5energy instead of 15>50 (example), the pet is ur weapon u wont the most dmaage. Best option is death lvl, then make the hero catch it.

Oct 02, 2008, 09:59 AM // 09:59	#10
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	But pets, unlike weapons, can be killed. The choice is between one pet which has 420 health and averages 13.1 base damage per second, or a pet which has 540 health and does 9.8 base damae per second. There is no difference in damage from skills (which is where the real damage output of pets is). I just don't see why one'd want a more easily killed pet just because it does a measly 3.3 more damage per second.

Oct 02, 2008, 11:47 AM // 11:47	#11
gerlin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: W/	If you want dire pet, the easiest would be is to capture the lvl 20 dire Black Moa pet. He's easy to cap, spawns good and is always dire, also he looks okish.

Oct 02, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21	#13
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	My two cents. Go to GW:EN Borial Station and grab the Boss Scroll that give 175% more Xp for 5 minutes. Hit Hard mode and run with your hero. There are Snow wurms there Kill them for 596/2 XP per Kill. There are 10 snow wurms that you can kiil without dying. Leave the OAKS alone they will kill you. This is how I lvld all of my Hero's from Night fall that started at lvl 15/ I lvld them in about 20-25 minutes. Bring a SPEED Running skill that saves time runnning to kill the Wurms. It should also be noted that when the wurms drop gold they drop 100+ gold in hard mode and they drop Gold and Lockpicks. You will also find 1 or 2 chests here in this location so if Chest hunting or UNLUCKY title is your Goal then this is the place in hard mode. The Drop rate for Golds from the Chest is around 90% So try that.

Oct 02, 2008, 01:57 PM // 13:57	#14
Tommy's Furnace Stoker Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: [Bone] Profession: Mo/	Thnx for all the suggestions The prob is: I alrdy capped the pets at lvl 5.. So should I dump them again and go deathlevel them? But how I DL the pets of my hero, as I cant take off their armor?

Oct 02, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04	#17
Schuldig Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Germany Profession: N/	The hero doesn't matter for dl. All you need is yourself and a monk that has a rezskill that resurrects with 25% but doesn't teleport. You strip your armor, you don't need sup runes but they'll help to die faster the first few times. You can use a vamp weapon too or use a sacrifice skill (I used BIP on the monk to get low on health). You just let yourself getting killed by the pet and rezzed by the monk then you get killed by the pet again etc. While rezzing the monk will have aggro but since he's all his armor it's no prob and after rez the pet will aggro you again (since you're weaker) so you can leave the monk in range too. You just go afk (make sure healing skills are blocked on the monk) and when you return after 40-60 min and the pet is lvl 20 u send the hero that is supposed to tame the pet and tame it.

Oct 02, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14	#18
Destro Maniak Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: A/	Well suprisingly everyone missed the real problem. You... ermm... cannot actually use thumpers in vanquish, at least you cannot use them as good as 3 necro way