Grandmaster Cartographer / Elona / Arena - Guild Wars Forums

AshBlade Arc · Oct 03, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38

I am past lvl 10 so i can not get in to the Sunspear Arena to get that percentage of the map. Do I have to have it to get the title? I am 2.4% from Grandmaster and am running out of walls to hug.

Tatile · Oct 03, 2008, 05:44 PM // 17:44

You don't need all of the arena, just the part where you can stand around. Scrape all you can of that bit and you should be fine.

I didn't know of that Arena until I'd gotten to about 96% on Elona, and yes, my character is Elonian

The Meth · Oct 03, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47

No, you don't need the arena. You have a bit of leeway in the cartographer title, there is actually something like 101% of the map that can be explored, so you can miss 1% of map and still get the title. So its more then possible to miss the arena's, you just have to get the rest of the map that much more perfectly.

If you have troubles finding the rest of the points you missed, try Texmod with the Cartography made easy mod. It will highlight the unexplored areas of the map for you.

zelgadissan · Oct 03, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Just a question - have you done the Remains of Sahlahja challenge mission? It's impossible to get 100% without it.

From wiki:
"Complete exploration of this area will yield about 1.8% to the Elonian Cartographer title track. The maximum level of that title track cannot be attained without exploring all or at least most of Dynastic Tombs. Without this location, the maximum that can be achieved will not exceed 98.5%."

Edit: might want to reread the OP post, Tatile. Thanks for the agreement though

Tatile · Oct 03, 2008, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Well at level 10 I doubt that he's gotten that far Zelgadissan, but it's a good thing to mention.

ZeAliX · Oct 03, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

I'm pretty sure he's past lvl 10 though.. considering he has already explored 97,6 % of elona

on topic.. I managed to get elonian gmc on my sin.. so should be possible without that arena

edit: wrote cantha instead of elona (fixed now)

Tatile · Oct 03, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelgadissan

Edit: might want to reread the OP post, Tatile. Thanks for the agreement though

Bah! I'm a writer, I don't need to read, that's for sissies.

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I think I'll go back to killing Elementals now.

dilan155 · Oct 03, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22

arenas are not nessasary but that does mean you need to explore that much more of the map, usually you if you explore everything youll have about 101-102%.

Redrocket · Oct 03, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

as zelgadissan said, make sure and do all of the Remains of Sahlahja challenge.....that alone will net almost 2% of the map. Also make sure and hug all the walls in the outpost as well, this has opened a bunch up for me when I got my title.

Quaker · Oct 03, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24

As a side note, when you do the Remains of Sahlahja mission, you don't need to be too concerned with actually completing the mission. If I recall correctly, you just need to do enough to open one of the doors to a new area and then use a speed skill to outrun the bad guys and explore it. Also, IIRC, the doors open randomly, so i just started the mission repeatedly until each of the doors had opened and I explored everything.

LicensedLuny · Oct 03, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46

Another vote for, no, you don't need the arena.

I got Elona GMC on my Prophecies-born Ranger (who had been level 20 for a long time before NF.) You can still get to the arena's outpost and map that, but I never got to uncover the arena battlefield nor the very starting area for Elona-born characters.

I had 100% Elona map before I'd quite finished scraping every edge of the Remains of Sahlahja challenge mission and before I'd ever been into the Ruins of Morah outpost.

Don't skip cutscenes in the missions. I've heard the cutscenes from Pogahn Passage uncover parts of the map you can't get any other way. (I can't speak to this being true or not, as I worked on mapping my first time through NF. So I never even wanted to skip the cutscenes.)

sykoone · Oct 03, 2008, 11:19 PM // 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by LicensedLuny

Don't skip cutscenes in the missions. I've heard the cutscenes from Pogahn Passage uncover parts of the map you can't get any other way.

This is absolutely true, and not just in NF. Several missions throughout the game end up revealing pieces of map.

AshBlade Arc · Oct 04, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25

I got to 98.3%, have scraped all towns and outposts. Have one section of Sahlahaj to get. The area of the Sunspear Areana I can run around in got me .2%. The Mods that The Meth mentioned, are they approved by the designers or do I risk a key logger???

Ariena Najea · Oct 04, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Texmod is safe, just make sure that when you go to download the individual mods for it that the file you are receiving has a .tpf extension. If it doesn't, it's some kind of keylogger or virus or something other than the mod you want.

*Darcy* · Oct 04, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42

ArenaNet has no problem with players using TexMod. The program does not attempt to alter anything on the ArenaNet servers. All visual alterations on done on your local computer.

Oct 03, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38	#1
AshBlade Arc Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: World Profession: W/Mo	Grandmaster Cartographer / Elona / Arena I am past lvl 10 so i can not get in to the Sunspear Arena to get that percentage of the map. Do I have to have it to get the title? I am 2.4% from Grandmaster and am running out of walls to hug.

Oct 03, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52	#4
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	Just a question - have you done the Remains of Sahlahja challenge mission? It's impossible to get 100% without it. From wiki: "Complete exploration of this area will yield about 1.8% to the Elonian Cartographer title track. The maximum level of that title track cannot be attained without exploring all or at least most of Dynastic Tombs. Without this location, the maximum that can be achieved will not exceed 98.5%." Edit: might want to reread the OP post, Tatile. Thanks for the agreement though Last edited by zelgadissan; Oct 03, 2008 at 06:02 PM // 18:02..

Oct 03, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20	#6
ZeAliX Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norway Profession: A/	I'm pretty sure he's past lvl 10 though.. considering he has already explored 97,6 % of elona on topic.. I managed to get elonian gmc on my sin.. so should be possible without that arena edit: wrote cantha instead of elona (fixed now) Last edited by ZeAliX; Oct 03, 2008 at 10:13 PM // 22:13..

Oct 04, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25	#13
AshBlade Arc Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: World Profession: W/Mo	Thanks 98.3% now, but... I got to 98.3%, have scraped all towns and outposts. Have one section of Sahlahaj to get. The area of the Sunspear Areana I can run around in got me .2%. The Mods that The Meth mentioned, are they approved by the designers or do I risk a key logger???

Oct 04, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42	#15
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	ArenaNet has no problem with players using TexMod. The program does not attempt to alter anything on the ArenaNet servers. All visual alterations on done on your local computer. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Oct 03, 2008, 05:44 PM // 17:44	#2
Tatile Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus Profession: N/Me	You don't need all of the arena, just the part where you can stand around. Scrape all you can of that bit and you should be fine. I didn't know of that Arena until I'd gotten to about 96% on Elona, and yes, my character is Elonian

Oct 03, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47	#3
The Meth Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2007 Profession: R/	No, you don't need the arena. You have a bit of leeway in the cartographer title, there is actually something like 101% of the map that can be explored, so you can miss 1% of map and still get the title. So its more then possible to miss the arena's, you just have to get the rest of the map that much more perfectly. If you have troubles finding the rest of the points you missed, try Texmod with the Cartography made easy mod. It will highlight the unexplored areas of the map for you.

Oct 03, 2008, 05:58 PM // 17:58	#5
Tatile Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus Profession: N/Me	Well at level 10 I doubt that he's gotten that far Zelgadissan, but it's a good thing to mention.

Oct 03, 2008, 07:22 PM // 19:22	#8
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	arenas are not nessasary but that does mean you need to explore that much more of the map, usually you if you explore everything youll have about 101-102%.

Oct 03, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#9
Redrocket Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2007 Guild: Dirty Angels Go To Hell [HELL] Profession: N/Me	as zelgadissan said, make sure and do all of the Remains of Sahlahja challenge.....that alone will net almost 2% of the map. Also make sure and hug all the walls in the outpost as well, this has opened a bunch up for me when I got my title.

Oct 03, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24	#10
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	As a side note, when you do the Remains of Sahlahja mission, you don't need to be too concerned with actually completing the mission. If I recall correctly, you just need to do enough to open one of the doors to a new area and then use a speed skill to outrun the bad guys and explore it. Also, IIRC, the doors open randomly, so i just started the mission repeatedly until each of the doors had opened and I explored everything.

Oct 03, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46	#11
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	Another vote for, no, you don't need the arena. I got Elona GMC on my Prophecies-born Ranger (who had been level 20 for a long time before NF.) You can still get to the arena's outpost and map that, but I never got to uncover the arena battlefield nor the very starting area for Elona-born characters. I had 100% Elona map before I'd quite finished scraping every edge of the Remains of Sahlahja challenge mission and before I'd ever been into the Ruins of Morah outpost. Don't skip cutscenes in the missions. I've heard the cutscenes from Pogahn Passage uncover parts of the map you can't get any other way. (I can't speak to this being true or not, as I worked on mapping my first time through NF. So I never even wanted to skip the cutscenes.)

Oct 04, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31	#14
Ariena Najea Silence and Motion Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buffalo NY Guild: New Horizon [NH]	Texmod is safe, just make sure that when you go to download the individual mods for it that the file you are receiving has a .tpf extension. If it doesn't, it's some kind of keylogger or virus or something other than the mod you want.