Always gets rid of Spiteful Spirit - Guild Wars Forums

Capua · Oct 14, 2008, 04:24 PM // 16:24

I've been capping a few skills over the past month and i've realised no matter what skill i cap, when i get back into town It always gets rid of my old elite (SS usualy) and keeps the new one. I just wondered if anyone knew why this was?

Thanks in advance.

Dronte · Oct 14, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26

Because the game thinks if you cap an elite, you intend to use it.

DarkNecrid · Oct 14, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26

They switched it so that the elite on the far right stays and the one on the far left leaves, instead of the far left one staying and the far right leaving when you zone with 2 elites.

Chucky333 · Oct 14, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26

lol.
You're only allowed 1 elite on your skillbar, after you cap and go back to an outpost one of them is off your bar, why one you just capped? i dont know, ask ANET, no reason to being lazy tho, it just takes max 5 seconds to put SS back on instead of the new skill.

untouchable · Oct 14, 2008, 04:27 PM // 16:27

..does it really matter.....and I think it depends on what slot you have it in..or its just because it keeps the newer skills added to your bar..

Capua · Oct 14, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31

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Originally Posted by Chucky333

lol.
You're only allowed 1 elite on your skillbar, after you cap and go back to an outpost one of them is off your bar, why one you just capped? i dont know, ask ANET, no reason to being lazy tho, it just takes max 5 seconds to put SS back on instead of the new skill.

I wasn't QQing i was just curious, haha.

Joseph Rejekt · Oct 14, 2008, 04:34 PM // 16:34

DarkNecrid is right. When I did my skill capping (I've capped every elite in the game) It always kept the elite I had on the rightmost side of my bar and got rid of the leftmost one. So if you wanna keep SS on the bar and not lose it everytime you zone, make sure you have your cap sig to the left of it. Think of it as the first elite on the bar is thrown away and the 2nd elite on the bar is kept.

Capua · Oct 14, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Thanks alot!
I'll give it a try later.

glacialphoenix · Oct 14, 2008, 04:42 PM // 16:42

As an added caveat: the game removes all elites except the rightmost one when you zone, not just when you go back to town. So if you're moving from explorable area to explorable area, make sure the elite you want to retain is at the rightmost before you zone to the next area.

Strife17 · Oct 14, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

first elite on your bar gets removed

if you have SS on button 1 and Spoil victor on button 2

SS gets removed

isamu kurosawa · Oct 14, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54

I never understood the need for the switch. Not only did keeping the first elite on the bar (closest to the left) make more sense, we already got used to that system.

What made it worse was the swtich was never announced, i found out while skill capping with my cap sig as my 8th slot then loosing the wrong elite.

Maccarelly · Oct 14, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26

It has caused me problems in the past, for instance when going through portal from area to area it means that you lose the elite that relates to the build. Option should be there to choose on the loading screen or just leave you with both.

Numa Pompilius · Oct 14, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

Iwe already got used to that system.

I've always arranged my skillbars with utility (like capsigs) on the left and payload on the right, so for me the new system works beautifully.

jaximus · Oct 14, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

i dont really cap much so i never really noticed that there was an order to which you lost the elite. i use my primary elite in the 3 slot so that would explain why it seems like id lose the one i used (cap in 5) i thought it was just some mean joke anet played on us where theyd take out the elite that you had synergy with and would stick you with the new one just for kicks.

Crystal Lake · Oct 14, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chucky333

lol.
You're only allowed 1 elite on your skillbar, after you cap and go back to an outpost one of them is off your bar, why one you just capped? i dont know, ask ANET, no reason to being lazy tho, it just takes max 5 seconds to put SS back on instead of the new skill.

If you have an elite on your bar and you cap a new one you will always lose the elite that is the furthest to to the left on your bar; if you go to an outpost, go through a portal, or go through another level in a dungeon. I learned the hard way when when my monk lost healer's boon and was stuck with an elite ax skill when I went through the third level in a dungeon.

Point is if you're going to cap a skill put the signet to the left of the elite skill you want to keep - especially if you're going to need it later.

wind fire and ice · Oct 14, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42

As said above,the first skill is removed.

Really its all the same though,just keep your bar saved and upload it,takes 2secs.

dilan155 · Oct 14, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

the game removes the left most elite and keeps the right most one. it does get annoying if you dont put the sig of cap before your current elite. specially when you caravan VQ an option to choose which elite to keep would be nice, maybe you get to choose one non elite skill from a skill list that you can add instead of the elite you will loose? would be better than having to VQ with a bar with one less skill.

jon0592 · Oct 14, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

I was running SF ele in Sepulchre and I decided to cap Shatterstone. I got it, went to 2nd floor...

Let's just say
end boss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shatterstone
end boss <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< searing flames

Oct 14, 2008, 04:24 PM // 16:24	#1
Capua Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2008 Profession: N/	Always gets rid of Spiteful Spirit I've been capping a few skills over the past month and i've realised no matter what skill i cap, when i get back into town It always gets rid of my old elite (SS usualy) and keeps the new one. I just wondered if anyone knew why this was? Thanks in advance.

Oct 14, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26	#2
Dronte Grotto Attendant Join Date: Sep 2006	Because the game thinks if you cap an elite, you intend to use it.

Oct 14, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26	#3
DarkNecrid Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jul 2006	They switched it so that the elite on the far right stays and the one on the far left leaves, instead of the far left one staying and the far right leaving when you zone with 2 elites.

Oct 14, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26	#4
Chucky333 Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2008 Profession: Mo/	lol. You're only allowed 1 elite on your skillbar, after you cap and go back to an outpost one of them is off your bar, why one you just capped? i dont know, ask ANET, no reason to being lazy tho, it just takes max 5 seconds to put SS back on instead of the new skill.

Oct 14, 2008, 04:27 PM // 16:27	#5
untouchable Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Mantioba Canada Guild: Terra Noise[Zraw] Profession: Mo/E	..does it really matter.....and I think it depends on what slot you have it in..or its just because it keeps the newer skills added to your bar..

Oct 14, 2008, 04:34 PM // 16:34	#7
Joseph Rejekt Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Absence Of Light Profession: R/D	DarkNecrid is right. When I did my skill capping (I've capped every elite in the game) It always kept the elite I had on the rightmost side of my bar and got rid of the leftmost one. So if you wanna keep SS on the bar and not lose it everytime you zone, make sure you have your cap sig to the left of it. Think of it as the first elite on the bar is thrown away and the 2nd elite on the bar is kept.

Oct 14, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38	#8
Capua Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2008 Profession: N/	Thanks alot! I'll give it a try later.

Oct 14, 2008, 04:42 PM // 16:42	#9
glacialphoenix Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Singapore Guild: Royal Order of Flying Lemmings [ROFL] Profession: Mo/	As an added caveat: the game removes all elites except the rightmost one when you zone, not just when you go back to town. So if you're moving from explorable area to explorable area, make sure the elite you want to retain is at the rightmost before you zone to the next area.

Oct 14, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45	#10
Strife17 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2008 Profession: Mo/	first elite on your bar gets removed if you have SS on button 1 and Spoil victor on button 2 SS gets removed

Oct 14, 2008, 04:54 PM // 16:54	#11
isamu kurosawa Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: United Kingdom Profession: Me/	I never understood the need for the switch. Not only did keeping the first elite on the bar (closest to the left) make more sense, we already got used to that system. What made it worse was the swtich was never announced, i found out while skill capping with my cap sig as my 8th slot then loosing the wrong elite.

Oct 14, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26	#12
Maccarelly Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2008 Guild: Aura of Revolution [Aura] Profession: R/	It has caused me problems in the past, for instance when going through portal from area to area it means that you lose the elite that relates to the build. Option should be there to choose on the loading screen or just leave you with both.

Oct 14, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54	#14
jaximus Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: wisc	i dont really cap much so i never really noticed that there was an order to which you lost the elite. i use my primary elite in the 3 slot so that would explain why it seems like id lose the one i used (cap in 5) i thought it was just some mean joke anet played on us where theyd take out the elite that you had synergy with and would stick you with the new one just for kicks.

Oct 14, 2008, 08:42 PM // 20:42	#16
wind fire and ice Jungle Guide Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: There Guild: [ToA]	As said above,the first skill is removed. Really its all the same though,just keep your bar saved and upload it,takes 2secs.

Oct 14, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07	#17
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	the game removes the left most elite and keeps the right most one. it does get annoying if you dont put the sig of cap before your current elite. specially when you caravan VQ an option to choose which elite to keep would be nice, maybe you get to choose one non elite skill from a skill list that you can add instead of the elite you will loose? would be better than having to VQ with a bar with one less skill.

Oct 14, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37	#18
jon0592 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: N/	I was running SF ele in Sepulchre and I decided to cap Shatterstone. I got it, went to 2nd floor... Let's just say end boss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shatterstone end boss <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< searing flames