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TheRanger · Nov 26, 2008, 03:09 AM // 03:09

Double-click to increase your attack speed by 25%, and to reduce your skill activation time by 25% for the next 10 minutes. This item cannot be used in PvP.

-Pie

So does the activation time include attack skills specifically dagger attack skills? It should- it is a skill, but I haven't notice a difference.

Gift3d · Nov 26, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34

no. attack speed and skill activation doesn't stack on dagger attacks.

TheRanger · Nov 26, 2008, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Hmm so then if teh pie didn't increase attack speed, skill activation would work? And if so.. would that mean it stacks, but is capped.. and the cap is 33%-- meaning eating a pie would make you use skills as if you were attacking at 33% IAS? Hmm but IAS also decreases activation and delay* IIRC, making a 33% IAS attack bascially 50% faster than normal. But then if what you say is true, the 25% activation speed wouldn't apply to the delay meaning with both 25% IAS and activation speed, using an attack chain would be slower than as if you had say had an 33% IAS on? Dunno ramble ramble ramble

Gift3d · Nov 26, 2008, 03:49 AM // 03:49

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Originally Posted by TheRanger

Hmm so then if teh pie didn't increase attack speed, skill activation would work? And if so.. would that mean it stacks, but is capped.. and the cap is 33%-- meaning eating a pie would make you use skills as if you were attacking at 33% IAS? Hmm but IAS also decreases activation and delay* IIRC, making a 33% IAS attack bascially 50% faster than normal. But then if what you say is true, the 25% activation speed wouldn't apply to the delay meaning with both 25% IAS and activation speed, using an attack skill would attack skill would be slower than as if you had say crit agility on? Dunno ramble ramble ramble

no. the decreased skill activation, does not affect attack skills. attack skills are affected by the ias, and the ias only as far as i know. ias is capped at 33%, so if you had critical agility active, a pumpkin pie would not further increase the ias beyond 33%, but you'd still recieve other bonuses.

edit: now that i think about it, it makes sense because most attack skills don't have "casting times". it may affect skills with a 1 second "cast time" like power shot and hunter's shot, but would not with skills such as barrage.

Quaker · Nov 26, 2008, 03:44 PM // 15:44

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Originally Posted by TheRanger

So does the activation time include attack skills specifically dagger attack skills? It should- it is a skill, but I haven't notice a difference.

Most Assassin attack skills have a very short activation time to begin with. Many have only a 1/4 sec activation time and some have 0sec. It would be difficult to actually notice the speed difference.

But at any rate, yes, it should reduce the activation time by 25%. That would make a 1/4 sec time become a 3/16 sec time. Hard to notice when in battle.

Your attack speed is a separate issue. That's how often you can attack. For an Assassin, it's every 1.33 sec. With a 25% reduction, it becomes every 1.0 secs.

However, there are maximum (or minimum) amounts of reduction. 33% is the maximum for increased attack speed. I think that 33% or 50% is the max for activation time reduction.

Nov 26, 2008, 03:09 AM // 03:09	#1
TheRanger Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005	I wuv pie. Double-click to increase your attack speed by 25%, and to reduce your skill activation time by 25% for the next 10 minutes. This item cannot be used in PvP. -Pie So does the activation time include attack skills specifically dagger attack skills? It should- it is a skill, but I haven't notice a difference.

Nov 26, 2008, 03:41 AM // 03:41	#3
TheRanger Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005	Hmm so then if teh pie didn't increase attack speed, skill activation would work? And if so.. would that mean it stacks, but is capped.. and the cap is 33%-- meaning eating a pie would make you use skills as if you were attacking at 33% IAS? Hmm but IAS also decreases activation and delay* IIRC, making a 33% IAS attack bascially 50% faster than normal. But then if what you say is true, the 25% activation speed wouldn't apply to the delay meaning with both 25% IAS and activation speed, using an attack chain would be slower than as if you had say had an 33% IAS on? Dunno ramble ramble ramble Last edited by TheRanger; Nov 26, 2008 at 03:45 AM // 03:45..

Nov 26, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34	#2
Gift3d Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Las Vegas Guild: Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR] Profession: W/E	no. attack speed and skill activation doesn't stack on dagger attacks.