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The Thrasher · Jan 06, 2009, 06:13 AM // 06:13

What's the fastest and cheapest way to r3 survivor?

Thanks in advance!

Forgotton200 · Jan 06, 2009, 06:28 AM // 06:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Thrasher

What's the fastest and cheapest way to r3 survivor?

Thanks in advance!

Kilroy's boxing.

gaweph · Jan 06, 2009, 08:35 AM // 08:35

I believe he also asked Cheapest. Although the boxing is indeed the fastest, it also is only that way if you are willing to spend money on the triple xp scrolls.

If your after a fast and cheap method, then have a look at all of the alternatives on the GW wiki: wiki.guildwars.com

i believe hfff is the safest and fastest once you get to lutgardis conservatory, there are also others, but without the triple scrolls i do not think that the boxing is the fastest.

My Fav ==
Elite skill capping is a useful way, and also allows you to progtress through the campaigns at the same time (this makes for a more fun survivor title)
==

DeFFik · Jan 06, 2009, 08:59 AM // 08:59

hfff was nerfed.. now you have to go and kill luxons so it isn't quick way to gain experience

Yang Whirlwind · Jan 06, 2009, 09:31 AM // 09:31

I think you have to decide what matters more: fast, safe or cheap.

Killroy's is about as safe as it gets (you can still die though), but unless you spend some money on scrolls it is not that fast.

shogun avatar · Jan 06, 2009, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Killroy runs alone will net you enough money for 1 or 2 scrolls each run (if you run in HM), so run basicly pays for itself

dasmitchies · Jan 06, 2009, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Killroy, bar none. Even without scrolls there isnt a faster way to gain xp without either paying a leveler or major risk of death while farming.

Anon-e-mouse · Jan 06, 2009, 12:10 PM // 12:10

Snow Worms outside of Boreal Station. 13 lvl 20 worms = 1300 XP per run. More if you use scrolls. And the drops from the worms are fairly ok, with the occasional lockpick and dyes.

Take ranged attacks/spells and there is no way you can phail.

Vehemence · Jan 06, 2009, 01:23 PM // 13:23

I don't really like snow wurms farm since the wurms like to burrow and it really cost me a bunch of time. Is there is any way to prevent it from burrowing?

Anon-e-mouse · Jan 06, 2009, 01:27 PM // 13:27

Give them bleeding or disease, then even if they do burrow, they still die, and you can move to the next target.

imnotyourmother · Jan 06, 2009, 04:00 PM // 16:00

My turn to chime in.

Yes SNOW WURMS IS the Fastest and the make you GOLD GOLD GOLD.

My IGN: A S L A N and I have the title running wurms. The trick is DO NOT USE NORMAL MODE.

OK jump on a different toon and complete GW:EN this gives access to HARD MODE then get on your survivor and click on gold old hard mode.

The wurms are then LVL 30. Yes LVL 30 and there are only 10 of them that you can kill. Yes normal mode has the 13 (other 3 at the bottom of the hill) but the "Oaks" will and I mean WILL kill you before you map out Happened to me once and I had to restart at lvl 2 of the title ( crappers.....I hated that day I went ape running around waving my arms in the air and shouting like a crazed animal))

Do not buy the 3X scrolls but rather the cheapest one. This will net you almost 500XP PER KILL! (492 Xp to be exact) times that by 10 and you can get a huge 5,000 xp in a 5 min run.

A S L A N is a War/Monk I used sword skills with WAR Endurance to keep energy up and then went with Healing Breeze for health regen. After 3 weeks of tweaking my build just right I could kill all 10 wurms before the scroll ran out.

Took me a while but there is a PATTERN to the WURMS. If you approach some of them they will pop right out of the ground or they will go under the ground and then pop right back up. Uses this to sequence the Wurms for effective killing and skills/heath regeneration in combination with scrolls so that the scrolls do not expire.

So if I went ape for a 3 hour period i would easily net 150,000 XP. Not only that but I would average one gold every 3-4 runs and do not forget to get the chests.

Use your lockpicks that you pick up to open HARD MODE CHESTS. There is nothing like getting a For Get Me not at 19% (man that sucks). In hard mode I got 2 Forget me Nots at 20% which I sold one for 25K and the other for 22K. There is gold to be had here that is for sure.

So recap...

HARD MODE
OPEN CHESTS with FOUND LOCKPICKS
Use CHEAPEST SCROLLS
Learn PATTER OF Wurm POP UPS
GET a RUNNING SKILL
Have Fun

nameless bond · Jan 06, 2009, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

My turn to chime in.

Yes SNOW WURMS IS the Fastest and the make you GOLD GOLD GOLD.

My IGN: A S L A N and I have the title running wurms. The trick is DO NOT USE NORMAL MODE.

OK jump on a different toon and complete GW:EN this gives access to HARD MODE then get on your survivor and click on gold old hard mode.

The wurms are then LVL 30. Yes LVL 30 and there are only 10 of them that you can kill. Yes normal mode has the 13 (other 3 at the bottom of the hill) but the "Oaks" will and I mean WILL kill you before you map out Happened to me once and I had to restart at lvl 2 of the title ( crappers.....I hated that day I went ape running around waving my arms in the air and shouting like a crazed animal))

Do not buy the 3X scrolls but rather the cheapest one. This will net you almost 500XP PER KILL! (492 Xp to be exact) times that by 10 and you can get a huge 5,000 xp in a 5 min run.

A S L A N is a War/Monk I used sword skills with WAR Endurance to keep energy up and then went with Healing Breeze for health regen. After 3 weeks of tweaking my build just right I could kill all 10 wurms before the scroll ran out.

Took me a while but there is a PATTERN to the WURMS. If you approach some of them they will pop right out of the ground or they will go under the ground and then pop right back up. Uses this to sequence the Wurms for effective killing and skills/heath regeneration in combination with scrolls so that the scrolls do not expire.

So if I went ape for a 3 hour period i would easily net 150,000 XP. Not only that but I would average one gold every 3-4 runs and do not forget to get the chests.

Use your lockpicks that you pick up to open HARD MODE CHESTS. There is nothing like getting a For Get Me not at 19% (man that sucks). In hard mode I got 2 Forget me Nots at 20% which I sold one for 25K and the other for 22K. There is gold to be had here that is for sure.

So recap...

HARD MODE
OPEN CHESTS with FOUND LOCKPICKS
Use CHEAPEST SCROLLS
Learn PATTER OF Wurm POP UPS
GET a RUNNING SKILL
Have Fun

could you post your skill bar for us here?

imnotyourmother · Jan 06, 2009, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Sure.

Healing Breeze
War Endurance - Elite
Sprint
Gash
Sever Artery
Flurry
Pure strike
Galrath Slash

Start off with Sever and then Gash. This reduces the health of the wurm to almost 50% right off the top.
Then spam Pure and Slash AT THE SAME TIME. One will hit on the forehand and the other on the back hand for fast damage.

As you can see Keep the War Endurance going. I have Strength at 15 and sword at 14 and Monk skill healing breeze gets the rest.

When it is around 1/4 Health hit frenzy. the moment it dies RUN to the next wurm. Strike it 4 times for adren if you do not have any left cause you are using sever and gash as they become available. Why?? cause they have 20% ARMOR PEN! Even if it is still bleeding use it again and again.

Of course use sprint right when you leave. Oh always get the Norn hunt thing as you go. Points are points. I have lvl 5 norn on my Survivor sure I did this. You will get 20 points a run. You will need to kill almost 2,800 wurms for max title and that is 5,600 Norn points gone to waist.

Now that you have the skills you need to figure out what weapon to use and what shield if you are Meele.

I was amazed at what sort of damage the SNOW wurm does. It is not what you think.

nameless bond · Jan 06, 2009, 05:24 PM // 17:24

i currently use a sundering highlander blade of fortitude (perfect) and an Agis of Terror I have so much trouble finding a shield thats any good,

also what runes should I run? I currently have

head survivor/minor swords
Chest knights/vitae
Hands survivor/sup absorb
legs knights/vitae
feet survivor/major health (can't remember what it's called

Massive Impulsa · Jan 06, 2009, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Nameless bond a little tip put the Armor runes on

#1Chest
#2Leggs
(Check Wiki on Armor or something

)
in this order since they takes the most damage / reduces most.

Also if your going full perfect armor getting Elemental reduce dmg mod on your sword

7+ vs Ele and maybe getting the Sentinel armor (13strengt| 20armor vs ele)

So thats my toughts^^

imnotyourmother · Jan 06, 2009, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Well runes are very important. You want Health health and more health.

I do not like absorb especially since you are loosing 75 heath. Its pointless.

I use the one that gives +20 Armor with Strength at 13. I can not remember the name.

I then run SUP Sword and Sup Strength. Yes I loose 150 health but killing FAST is the key if you are using scrolls. The healing breeze takes all of a second to cast and off you go.

So Survivors on the chest and the other healths all the way around.

My head piece I used Sword just because that is what I prefer.

I also have the Health +50 on my armor.

Also please take note. If you are trying things out and tweaking your playing style bring a hero. Yes they take half of your xp but you will not dye this way. Hero's are stupid too so bring healing breeze on your hero as its ONLY and I mean ONLY skill. Remember death = fail

I used Koss that I picked up in nightfall. Just kill wurms and he will lvl up fast. Give him healing breeze and nothing else. He will add damage and heal you and himself.

Your weapon is Very important. Remember that the wurms are MEELE. So I use FIRE!!!!! its a SNOW WURM!!! Does way better damage ALL OF THE TIME not 1 in 5? What are people thinking. Sundering sucks. Its a lazy way to maybe get a bonus once every 5 hits.

Come on people FIRE damage. That's a no brainer against a SNOW WURM. As for the health +30 it is interesting.

Here's why.. Armor +7 vrs PHYSICAL Wurms are PHYSICAL damage dealers right cause they are Meele right?? WRONG. They deal Fire damage. WTF did he say you are thinking to yourself.

WELL after 3 weeks of testing and pattern running. Fire is the type of damage. Therefore you are better served with at STRENGTH Shield with 16 armor +10 in the fire and +30 health. Your sword should be FIERY whatever sword 15-22 dmg with +7 vrs ele damage then Strengh and honor 15% more damage as your inscription.

The +7 will give you armor of 133 vrs the wurms. If you find that frenzy kills you a bit fast. Get the dolyak's signet ( spelling might be wrong) and use that the moment you strike the wurm and SPAM frenzy as you will not take 2X more damage I would swap out the run skill.

I do not own Factions so there might be some killa skills there that I do not have access to that you might want to try instead of mine.

Jade · Jan 06, 2009, 06:55 PM // 18:55

I saw this post here the other day when I was looking for a way to level up my heroes. There was this reply by daze that I thought was bloody brilliant:

Quote:

Originally Posted by daze

I have yet to try my method using the fire imp but i imagine that it would make the process faster. Since im almost off work ill hurry up and post my method anyways.
Quests needed to be open - Welcome to cantha, chasing zenmai
Items needed - lightbringer scrolls, unlocked MM skills, gold to pay taxi...
Helpful Items - Max armor, runes, elite tomes, Fire imp

Step 1: Create character in nightfall (because it is the fastest route to the other campaigns)
Step 2: Get ferry to consulate docks (for Max armor and taxis to LA and KC)
Step 3: Have friend help or find runner for olias quest (make olias MM)
Step 4: Taxi to KC (pick up Welcome to Cantha and Chasing Zenmai)
Step 5: Go outside KC to Bukdek byway (bring only Olias with MM build and monk spells to keep minions healed)
>>>>>>Stand near Mhenlo until he stops talking and starts following you
>>>>>>Go to where Zenmai spawns (kill the popups) talk to zenmai she will follow you
>>>>>>backtrack a bit then go to the middle to where Emi is and wait till she follows.
Step 6: Kill enemies in a path that takes out the bulk of them in 10 minutes(LB scroll takes 10 minutes)

You will have a team of 8 but the exp will be split between only you and olias (team of 9 if you count your fire imp)

[hint] let your allies block for you and let them hold aggro, depending on what profession you play you may want to just support them or olias.

---------------
Each run takes about 15 minutes upon entering Bukdek byway (including picking up allies)
At first you will gain 3 to 4 levels per run (about 800 exp per enemy)

When you hit level 12, kick olias because you wont need the protection anymore.

But my fastest time is 3 and a half hours from creation.. Im curious to see what the time is for other peoples methods too. Please post your times.

Now I dunno how well it works past leel 20, but I figured that it was worth an honorable mention at least.

As for my own personal opinion, I hate Kilroy's boxing. B (wait for it) ORING. I'd rather do hm worms, boring as well, but the rewards are more.... well.... rewarding. I used the worms to level up some heroes and it works fine.

Deimos Zargarda · Jan 07, 2009, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Many Professions can farm the Undead in the Gates of Kryta Mission, taking the back way where the large group spawns, I got it that way for my Ele in HM, you will get 10k Faction in 5 Min., more with Scrolls.

Forgotton200 · Jan 07, 2009, 03:49 PM // 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaweph

I believe he also asked Cheapest. Although the boxing is indeed the fastest, it also is only that way if you are willing to spend money on the triple xp scrolls.

If your after a fast and cheap method, then have a look at all of the alternatives on the GW wiki: wiki.guildwars.com

i believe hfff is the safest and fastest once you get to lutgardis conservatory, there are also others, but without the triple scrolls i do not think that the boxing is the fastest.

My Fav ==
Elite skill capping is a useful way, and also allows you to progtress through the campaigns at the same time (this makes for a more fun survivor title)
==

I don't think so Tim. I never bought a single triple xp scroll. I used the quest reward item to exchange it for the cheap xp scrolls and I got r3 survivor in 2 days (I played all day though), including from the time I created the new character and to the r3 survivor. I also made 80k from selling items to merchant and I still have couple Elite warrior tomes from the drop in kilroy's boxing. The 80k could've been used to pay for the triple xp scrolls on every or almost every run to make it even faster.

Absinth187 · Jan 07, 2009, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

I do not like absorb especially since you are loosing 75 heath. Its pointless.

You are mistaken.

Jan 06, 2009, 06:03 PM // 18:03	#15
Massive Impulsa Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In Viking land! (Norwaii) Guild: Beyond the Gates of Infinity [sKy] Profession: R/Mo	Nameless bond a little tip put the Armor runes on #1Chest #2Leggs (Check Wiki on Armor or something) in this order since they takes the most damage / reduces most. Also if your going full perfect armor getting Elemental reduce dmg mod on your sword 7+ vs Ele and maybe getting the Sentinel armor (13strengt\| 20armor vs ele) So thats my toughts^^

Jan 06, 2009, 06:15 PM // 18:15	#16
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	Well runes are very important. You want Health health and more health. I do not like absorb especially since you are loosing 75 heath. Its pointless. I use the one that gives +20 Armor with Strength at 13. I can not remember the name. I then run SUP Sword and Sup Strength. Yes I loose 150 health but killing FAST is the key if you are using scrolls. The healing breeze takes all of a second to cast and off you go. So Survivors on the chest and the other healths all the way around. My head piece I used Sword just because that is what I prefer. I also have the Health +50 on my armor. Also please take note. If you are trying things out and tweaking your playing style bring a hero. Yes they take half of your xp but you will not dye this way. Hero's are stupid too so bring healing breeze on your hero as its ONLY and I mean ONLY skill. Remember death = fail I used Koss that I picked up in nightfall. Just kill wurms and he will lvl up fast. Give him healing breeze and nothing else. He will add damage and heal you and himself. Your weapon is Very important. Remember that the wurms are MEELE. So I use FIRE!!!!! its a SNOW WURM!!! Does way better damage ALL OF THE TIME not 1 in 5? What are people thinking. Sundering sucks. Its a lazy way to maybe get a bonus once every 5 hits. Come on people FIRE damage. That's a no brainer against a SNOW WURM. As for the health +30 it is interesting. Here's why.. Armor +7 vrs PHYSICAL Wurms are PHYSICAL damage dealers right cause they are Meele right?? WRONG. They deal Fire damage. WTF did he say you are thinking to yourself. WELL after 3 weeks of testing and pattern running. Fire is the type of damage. Therefore you are better served with at STRENGTH Shield with 16 armor +10 in the fire and +30 health. Your sword should be FIERY whatever sword 15-22 dmg with +7 vrs ele damage then Strengh and honor 15% more damage as your inscription. The +7 will give you armor of 133 vrs the wurms. If you find that frenzy kills you a bit fast. Get the dolyak's signet ( spelling might be wrong) and use that the moment you strike the wurm and SPAM frenzy as you will not take 2X more damage I would swap out the run skill. I do not own Factions so there might be some killa skills there that I do not have access to that you might want to try instead of mine. Last edited by imnotyourmother; Jan 06, 2009 at 06:22 PM // 18:22.. Reason: spelling and forget to add info

Jan 06, 2009, 06:13 AM // 06:13	#1
The Thrasher Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2008	Survivor title What's the fastest and cheapest way to r3 survivor? Thanks in advance!

Jan 06, 2009, 08:35 AM // 08:35	#3
gaweph Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: Grolsch Guild Profession: R/Mo	I believe he also asked Cheapest. Although the boxing is indeed the fastest, it also is only that way if you are willing to spend money on the triple xp scrolls. If your after a fast and cheap method, then have a look at all of the alternatives on the GW wiki: wiki.guildwars.com i believe hfff is the safest and fastest once you get to lutgardis conservatory, there are also others, but without the triple scrolls i do not think that the boxing is the fastest. My Fav == Elite skill capping is a useful way, and also allows you to progtress through the campaigns at the same time (this makes for a more fun survivor title) ==

Jan 06, 2009, 08:59 AM // 08:59	#4
DeFFik Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bielsko-Biała, Poland Profession: R/	hfff was nerfed.. now you have to go and kill luxons so it isn't quick way to gain experience

Jan 06, 2009, 09:31 AM // 09:31	#5
Yang Whirlwind ~ Retired ~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1) Profession: E/	I think you have to decide what matters more: fast, safe or cheap. Killroy's is about as safe as it gets (you can still die though), but unless you spend some money on scrolls it is not that fast.

Jan 06, 2009, 10:26 AM // 10:26	#6
shogun avatar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Croatia Guild: Precko Boys [PREX] Profession: W/	Killroy runs alone will net you enough money for 1 or 2 scrolls each run (if you run in HM), so run basicly pays for itself

Jan 06, 2009, 11:11 AM // 11:11	#7
dasmitchies Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: W/P	Killroy, bar none. Even without scrolls there isnt a faster way to gain xp without either paying a leveler or major risk of death while farming.

Jan 06, 2009, 12:10 PM // 12:10	#8
Anon-e-mouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: @ Home Guild: League Of Friends [LOF] Profession: R/Mo	Snow Worms outside of Boreal Station. 13 lvl 20 worms = 1300 XP per run. More if you use scrolls. And the drops from the worms are fairly ok, with the occasional lockpick and dyes. Take ranged attacks/spells and there is no way you can phail.

Jan 06, 2009, 01:23 PM // 13:23	#9
Vehemence Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Perth Guild: [LOD] Profession: W/	I don't really like snow wurms farm since the wurms like to burrow and it really cost me a bunch of time. Is there is any way to prevent it from burrowing?

Jan 06, 2009, 01:27 PM // 13:27	#10
Anon-e-mouse Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: @ Home Guild: League Of Friends [LOF] Profession: R/Mo	Give them bleeding or disease, then even if they do burrow, they still die, and you can move to the next target.

Jan 06, 2009, 04:00 PM // 16:00	#11
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	My turn to chime in. Yes SNOW WURMS IS the Fastest and the make you GOLD GOLD GOLD. My IGN: A S L A N and I have the title running wurms. The trick is DO NOT USE NORMAL MODE. OK jump on a different toon and complete GW:EN this gives access to HARD MODE then get on your survivor and click on gold old hard mode. The wurms are then LVL 30. Yes LVL 30 and there are only 10 of them that you can kill. Yes normal mode has the 13 (other 3 at the bottom of the hill) but the "Oaks" will and I mean WILL kill you before you map out Happened to me once and I had to restart at lvl 2 of the title ( crappers.....I hated that day I went ape running around waving my arms in the air and shouting like a crazed animal)) Do not buy the 3X scrolls but rather the cheapest one. This will net you almost 500XP PER KILL! (492 Xp to be exact) times that by 10 and you can get a huge 5,000 xp in a 5 min run. A S L A N is a War/Monk I used sword skills with WAR Endurance to keep energy up and then went with Healing Breeze for health regen. After 3 weeks of tweaking my build just right I could kill all 10 wurms before the scroll ran out. Took me a while but there is a PATTERN to the WURMS. If you approach some of them they will pop right out of the ground or they will go under the ground and then pop right back up. Uses this to sequence the Wurms for effective killing and skills/heath regeneration in combination with scrolls so that the scrolls do not expire. So if I went ape for a 3 hour period i would easily net 150,000 XP. Not only that but I would average one gold every 3-4 runs and do not forget to get the chests. Use your lockpicks that you pick up to open HARD MODE CHESTS. There is nothing like getting a For Get Me not at 19% (man that sucks). In hard mode I got 2 Forget me Nots at 20% which I sold one for 25K and the other for 22K. There is gold to be had here that is for sure. So recap... HARD MODE OPEN CHESTS with FOUND LOCKPICKS Use CHEAPEST SCROLLS Learn PATTER OF Wurm POP UPS GET a RUNNING SKILL Have Fun

Jan 06, 2009, 05:05 PM // 17:05	#13
imnotyourmother Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: in a house Guild: The Knitters Guild Profession: W/R	Sure. Healing Breeze War Endurance - Elite Sprint Gash Sever Artery Flurry Pure strike Galrath Slash Start off with Sever and then Gash. This reduces the health of the wurm to almost 50% right off the top. Then spam Pure and Slash AT THE SAME TIME. One will hit on the forehand and the other on the back hand for fast damage. As you can see Keep the War Endurance going. I have Strength at 15 and sword at 14 and Monk skill healing breeze gets the rest. When it is around 1/4 Health hit frenzy. the moment it dies RUN to the next wurm. Strike it 4 times for adren if you do not have any left cause you are using sever and gash as they become available. Why?? cause they have 20% ARMOR PEN! Even if it is still bleeding use it again and again. Of course use sprint right when you leave. Oh always get the Norn hunt thing as you go. Points are points. I have lvl 5 norn on my Survivor sure I did this. You will get 20 points a run. You will need to kill almost 2,800 wurms for max title and that is 5,600 Norn points gone to waist. Now that you have the skills you need to figure out what weapon to use and what shield if you are Meele. I was amazed at what sort of damage the SNOW wurm does. It is not what you think.

Jan 06, 2009, 05:24 PM // 17:24	#14
nameless bond Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2007 Profession: R/W	i currently use a sundering highlander blade of fortitude (perfect) and an Agis of Terror I have so much trouble finding a shield thats any good, also what runes should I run? I currently have head survivor/minor swords Chest knights/vitae Hands survivor/sup absorb legs knights/vitae feet survivor/major health (can't remember what it's called

Jan 07, 2009, 02:07 AM // 02:07	#18
Deimos Zargarda Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2008	Many Professions can farm the Undead in the Gates of Kryta Mission, taking the back way where the large group spawns, I got it that way for my Ele in HM, you will get 10k Faction in 5 Min., more with Scrolls.