How to get better with the Keyboard? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

noneedforclevernames · Jan 28, 2009, 10:58 PM // 22:58

try playing an RTS for a few months, it takes about 100 times as much keyboard skill, so you will learn a lot faster.

Quaker · Jan 29, 2009, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by refer

I heard that too.

GW2 is not supposed to be "mouseless" - that's a misinterpretation of what they said. What they said was - GW2 will not use the "click on the ground to move" thing that you can do in GW1. I don't think many people use that anyway. It still should have the same "look around", click on NPCs/targets, steer, etc., functions it has now. It will certainly NOT be mouseless.

Your original post isn't too clear on what your problem is, but, did you know that you can move and steer your character by holding down the left & right mouse buttons? You may find that easier than WASD.

Also, if you go to Menu > Options > controls, you can reconfigure the keys any way you want that you find more comfortable. (I have so many keys reassigned, I don't know what the defaults are any more.

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refer · Jan 29, 2009, 05:26 AM // 05:26

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Originally Posted by Quaker

GW2 is not supposed to be "mouseless" - that's a misinterpretation of what they said. What they said was - GW2 will not use the "click on the ground to move" thing that you can do in GW1. I don't think many people use that anyway. It still should have the same "look around", click on NPCs/targets, steer, etc., functions it has now. It will certainly NOT be mouseless.

Your original post isn't too clear on what your problem is, but, did you know that you can move and steer your character by holding down the left & right mouse buttons? You may find that easier than WASD.

Also, if you go to Menu > Options > controls, you can reconfigure the keys any way you want that you find more comfortable. (I have so many keys reassigned, I don't know what the defaults are any more.

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lol you know how slow pings introduce lag? well my hands introduce lag... I know what to do but not fast enough. I don't really know how to practice. Usually I don't get any progress... One question though: do you W in WASD with your ring finger like normal typing or do you do it like arrows with the middle finger?

snaek · Jan 29, 2009, 06:31 AM // 06:31

well if u've never played pc games before, then it'll take a while to get used to it
all i can say tho, is keep it up
pc games r ftw! ^__^

i'd recommend playin an fps to get better used to "modern keyboard gaming controls"
since well, fps games r really wut started the whole wsad thing

for now jus focus on the basics:

wsad for movement
space for attack
c and tab (shift+tab) for targetting
1-8 for skill activation

after u get the basics down
then u can move on to more advanced keyboarding lol

for reference....fps equivalent controls:
wsad for movement
space for jump
ctrl (and sometimes c) for crouch
1-8 for weapon selection

refer · Jan 29, 2009, 07:24 AM // 07:24

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Originally Posted by snaek

well if u've never played pc games before, then it'll take a while to get used to it
all i can say tho, is keep it up
pc games r ftw! ^__^

i'd recommend playin an fps to get better used to "modern keyboard gaming controls"
since well, fps games r really wut started the whole wsad thing

for now jus focus on the basics:

wsad for movement
space for attack
c and tab (shift+tab) for targetting
1-8 for skill activation

after u get the basics down
then u can move on to more advanced keyboarding lol

for reference....fps equivalent controls:
wsad for movement
space for jump
ctrl (and sometimes c) for crouch
1-8 for weapon selection

lol you don't know my computer. I don't think it would handle any FPS out today. I would get a new one but $$$ and too many new technologies too close (Core i7-waits for price drop, USB 3.0, PCI-E, etc... yeah I know they aren't out NOW, but if I wait just a little longer). um... but you never answered my question lol. do people do like WASD as in the arrows keys or like normal typing? and if that's true... what about all the skill and using numbers? maybe I will try the PS2 thing...

snaek · Jan 30, 2009, 05:45 AM // 05:45

but theres tons of fps out there that arent too demanding on graphics that r still pretty good by todays standards
(if u can run gw, then u can run these)

ima mention single-player fps games...since u can go more at ur own pace (and set the difficulty on easy lol)
-half-life 1
-aliens vs predator 1
-no one lives forever 1
-soldier of fortune 1
-thief 1

if ur rdy to tackle some multiplayer fps...i'd recommend:
-counter-strike 1.6
-quake 3 arena
-unreal tournament (the first one)
-starsiege tribes (its free now)

Quaker · Jan 30, 2009, 01:55 PM // 13:55

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Originally Posted by refer

One question though: do you W in WASD with your ring finger like normal typing or do you do it like arrows with the middle finger?

Generally speaking, I don't WASD for movement. I use the left+right mouse buttons normally. I sometimes use W to move forward, depending upon conditions, but when I do, I use my index finger (or whatever finger is handy).
I have my left and right strafe keys assigned to "Z" & "X", so, as I play I move with the mouse while strafing with Z & X and hitting CTRL, ALT, C, Spacebar, etc.. It's probably not the "best" setup, but it works (sort of) for me and was originally a result of transferring my key setup from FPSes (mostly TFC)

VishnuOdin · Jan 30, 2009, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Why would you want to play with only the keyboard? Is there something your having difficulty doing with the mouse?

In my experience playing with the mouse and keyboard together is the best control scheme one could ask for. I use ESDF (e = up, WASD moved one slot over for extra key binds near movement keys) and right-click and mouse movements to turn. Middle finger for both E and D, index for F, ring finger for S. Drop your thumb for alt and use your pinky for any additional keybinds you want (keypress left shift for voice). Sliding over one slot also centers you more on your number keys.

If you don't use the mouse you can't circle strafe. Not really a big deal in an MMORPG but your movement is much smoother when carving around the game world, and allows you to walk in one direction and look in another (good for scouting an area without accidentally pulling aggro).

You can't do this with just the keyboard, unless you bind both move and strafe keys, which is far more complicated then using the mouse. Sure it can be done, but I would not recommend it. An example setup would be using ESDF for movement keys, then using A and G for strafe keys.

I play a caster, so melee may be a different story but once you start attacking you shouldn't be moving anyway. Left click to start the attack then start queuing your skills using the number keys until the mob drops. For multi-mob groups, once you drop the first one, tab through until you find the next one you want to attack (generally the one with the least health, assuming you went for the enemy healer first).

When I played WoW, I played an Affliction Warlock (insta-cast mage) and a Deathknight (Frost tank) and still used this setup. It take a bit of finger dexterity and practice but after a while I could still hit every number key and circle strafe at the same time. This works wonders in PvP. Hitting a moving target is way harder then a standing one, in WoW I used to run figure eight's around people piling DOT's on them and laughing as they missed 90% of their attacks just trying to target me.

If you like the game don't quit. You will get used to it. Any game takes time to get good at, especially player movement. Every MMORPG is the same so don't think any other will be any easier, keep at it and before you know it you'll be able to do it in your sleep. And if you play a lot that might actually happen

refer · Jan 30, 2009, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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