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Hollygen · Mar 01, 2009, 12:08 PM // 12:08

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Originally Posted by Dmitri3

Popularity is NOT an excuse! If it's more popular then they get more money thus they are able to hire more people to fix holes. If they can't do that, it just says they're shitty, that's all.

So they can fix their holes faster. All well and good, but that's offset by the fact they're going to have more exploits to have to counter.

Any patch will have a finite development no matter how many programmers you throw at it, and all those development times add up.

Zebideedee · Mar 01, 2009, 02:33 PM // 14:33

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Asking is okay. I never said you shouldn't ask, I just said you should do your own research as well.

I asked on here because in a few other threads I read it was hinted on, thought it might help someone else besides me. Trust me, I can research

Dmitri3 · Mar 01, 2009, 03:23 PM // 15:23

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Originally Posted by Hollygen

So they can fix their holes faster. All well and good, but that's offset by the fact they're going to have more exploits to have to counter.

Any patch will have a finite development no matter how many programmers you throw at it, and all those development times add up.

Well, then that shows that this business model doesn't work. You shouldn't have to accept "oh it's fine, this program is supposed to be filled with holes and exploits because it's so popular".

Do you really think Microsoft doesn't have the resources to actually bother to make IE, you know, standards compliable instead of inventing their own "improved standards" (or whatever they call them)? Or try fixing bugs faster? ...

moriz · Mar 01, 2009, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Originally Posted by jiggles

Can you press the mouse button in and then move up and down in chrome yet?

the middle button/scroll wheel? yeah, it does that now. it also maximizes properly in aero mode under vista. however, if you have "hide taskbar" enabled, it becomes inaccessible if chrome is maximized and is the primary window.

though since it is still primarily a beta software, little problems like these are expected. it's still very nice though, purely because of the drag/drop tabs.

refer · Mar 01, 2009, 03:46 PM // 15:46

IE has always sucked... that and Firefox is hugely customizable, smaller, open source. Plus you can use any character in bookmark names.

VishnuOdin · Mar 01, 2009, 09:32 PM // 21:32

IE has never been a good browser, as a developer I could write a page and half of shortcomings the browser has and why you should never use it.

The main reason it's more vulnerable to exploits has nothing to do with popularity. It ties into your OS way more then a web browser ever should, read up on how it handles ActiveX controls and it will probably scare you away from ever using it again.

Firefox is fast, customizable, and being open source is less prone to serious exploits. It follows standards set by the W3 (as does every browser except IE), and innovates with every new version.

Some people will tell you FF has a large memory footprint. Prior to FF3 I would agree with that statement, but today I wouldn't. Compare it's memory usage to any other browser once it's been open for a few hours, with lots of tabs being closed and opened. Yes, it will use a lot if you aren't doing anything else (every application does this, the more RAM you have free the more it will use), but nothing compared to the > 700MB I've seen IE consume. A bare-bones installation of FF uses very little RAM, a large number of addon's contribute to it's high usage more then anything else.

Opera is another good alternative. Personally I don't like Chrome or Safari, but each has pro's and con's. Try FF or Opera, just don't use IE

[edit] If you ever need to view a page that gives you an error saying it must be viewed in IE, download the IETab addon for FF. A simple right click and it will switch the tab's rendering engine and off you go. 99% of the time this has nothing to do with FF not being capable of doing it, just that some developer decided to parse the UserAgent string instead of actually checking to see if the commands are available. MS blocking Chrome is a prime example of this kind of oversight. [/edit]

Issac · Mar 01, 2009, 11:29 PM // 23:29

Firefox is just seems easier overall compared to IE.

Mar 01, 2009, 09:32 PM // 21:32	#26
VishnuOdin Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2009 Profession: N/E	IE has never been a good browser, as a developer I could write a page and half of shortcomings the browser has and why you should never use it. The main reason it's more vulnerable to exploits has nothing to do with popularity. It ties into your OS way more then a web browser ever should, read up on how it handles ActiveX controls and it will probably scare you away from ever using it again. Firefox is fast, customizable, and being open source is less prone to serious exploits. It follows standards set by the W3 (as does every browser except IE), and innovates with every new version. Some people will tell you FF has a large memory footprint. Prior to FF3 I would agree with that statement, but today I wouldn't. Compare it's memory usage to any other browser once it's been open for a few hours, with lots of tabs being closed and opened. Yes, it will use a lot if you aren't doing anything else (every application does this, the more RAM you have free the more it will use), but nothing compared to the > 700MB I've seen IE consume. A bare-bones installation of FF uses very little RAM, a large number of addon's contribute to it's high usage more then anything else. Opera is another good alternative. Personally I don't like Chrome or Safari, but each has pro's and con's. Try FF or Opera, just don't use IE [edit] If you ever need to view a page that gives you an error saying it must be viewed in IE, download the IETab addon for FF. A simple right click and it will switch the tab's rendering engine and off you go. 99% of the time this has nothing to do with FF not being capable of doing it, just that some developer decided to parse the UserAgent string instead of actually checking to see if the commands are available. MS blocking Chrome is a prime example of this kind of oversight. [/edit] Last edited by VishnuOdin; Mar 01, 2009 at 09:39 PM // 21:39..

Mar 01, 2009, 03:46 PM // 15:46	#25
refer Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: US	IE has always sucked... that and Firefox is hugely customizable, smaller, open source. Plus you can use any character in bookmark names.

Mar 01, 2009, 11:29 PM // 23:29	#27
Issac Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earthrealm Profession: W/A	Firefox is just seems easier overall compared to IE.