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Aftbrek · Mar 11, 2009, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Hello everyone. As the title notes, I am getting destroyed on my warrior. I recently started playing GW and the first character I made was a necro. I really enjoyed leveling my necro but now at level 20, I am pretty bored. I am playing as minion master which is cool and makes it pretty easy to tear through monsters and quests but it isn't really...interesting. I mostly just summon stuff and watch it go kill things for me and for the most part all I really need to do is keep them alive and summon more. Simply put, it isn't the game, or necessarily the character, but the way I play makes it a bit too easy and mindless.

I have always enjoyed melee classes but I thought I would try a ranged character but as noted, I am a little sick of it. I created a warrior (NF) and he is currently level 7 and I really enjoy playing him but compared to my necro (when it was the same level) I am getting obliterated. Things go fine at the start but when you get to Jokanur Diggings and Champion's Dawn missions where the mobs are a bit higher level and grouped, I am dying way too easily. Again, I know this isn't so much a problem with the class but rather with the way I am playing it.

I have respecced Dunkoro, my monk hero to protection(previously was smite) and when I have some time I will be trying again with Healer, Dunkoro, myself and another ranged DPS hench. As I haven't really had time to try this new grouping out, I am not sure if it will be as successful as I am hoping but simply put, can anyone shed some light on some playing tips as a low level warrior?

To anyone who read this in its entirety, thank you. For tldr'ers:

I am a bad warrior because it is different than other MMORPG melee classes I have played before. I am level 7, I only have NF, how can I stop being terrible.

Thank you!

refer · Mar 11, 2009, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Well for one, try to match the level of stuff in Jokanur Diggings... Foes are level 8-13, and being as a 7, that already puts a mark against you.

Aftbrek · Mar 11, 2009, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by refer

Well for one, try to match the level of stuff in Jokanur Diggings... Foes are level 8-13, and being as a 7, that already puts a mark against you.

Well that makes sense I suppose. I went there around the same level on my necro doing the same quests so I thought it was normal to be a bit outleveled as that is where the quests told me to go

refer · Mar 11, 2009, 07:44 PM // 19:44

What's your armor level? Maybe check that too?

Eragon Zarroc · Mar 11, 2009, 08:01 PM // 20:01

definitely try to get the max armor u can. maybe try to lvl up some. there arent many specialized builds u can run at that low lvl. maybe if u have some high lvl friends or guildies, they could come help. lvl 20's will rip through that area.

Hanging Man · Mar 11, 2009, 08:03 PM // 20:03

yeah don't rush through the game. take some time level up a little, cartographer noob island so you don't have to later.
Check to make sure you have the highest armor available.
make sure you meet the reqs of your weapon and shield.
and it is tough for a little warrior to do much when your at such a low level.
Stick it out, you'll be killing stuff soon enough

*Darcy* · Mar 11, 2009, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Firstly, here is a link to the stickied warrior basics thread in the Campfire section Warrior subforum http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10326347
It will cover most of what you need to know as a beginning warrior.

Secondly, stop comparing your warrior to your necro. The necro, as a caster, was never intentionally in the middle of a fight. His minions played that role.

Your level 7 warrior needs his/her armor buffs, health runes, good skills, a decent weapon and a good healer. He needs a longbow for pulling so he doesn't get overwhelmed by a mob. He needs to be at a comparable level to the mobs he is fighting.

Once you reach level 20, with max armor, and better skills, you will find that it is easier to beat higher level mobs.

My warrior is my main character. She is great fun to play and only dies when I do something idiotic.

Zodiac Meteor · Mar 11, 2009, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Do things in this order.
1) armor
2) skills
3) level
4) weapon

PM me, I'll be happy to help you with builds and possibly armor.
IGN = Zodiac Ele.

Aftbrek · Mar 11, 2009, 08:23 PM // 20:23

Wow, thanks for the huge response and tips. Definitely going to be spending some time looking over the warrior guide.

I had another thought, since I just did the quests to get off of noob island on my necro, it isn't too exciting to do them all over again on my warrior. I was thinking about starting my warrior on a different chapter of GW (only have NF right now), which chapter would you recommend or should I just stick with NF?

A H O Y T · Mar 11, 2009, 08:41 PM // 20:41

^ Well, I suggest Prophecies

But that's just because I think it's the best game, and the warriors look the best..

Benderama · Mar 11, 2009, 09:21 PM // 21:21

i'd agree, go with prophecies for a while it can never be too hard there, whenever you get stuck you can usually just level up or get the local armor and then you'll clear through the missions, and the stories great too. Factions is good too personally i like NF the least (not saying its a bad game just gets a bit stale if you're like me and suck more than humanley possible at HM and elite areas)

dylyn · Mar 11, 2009, 09:25 PM // 21:25

I have the Trilogy & Eye of the North. I've only visited Cantha and Elona, so I can't really judge them, but I definitely like having a warrior in the Prophecies campaign.

I had just the opposite problem. I couldn't keep my Necro alive past a certain point. She was my first character, though, so I was still learning. I'm now running a W/N & was able to breeze through the first 15 or so of the Prophecies missions.

EotN is also great. It seems to be the most active spot in GW right now if you like crowds.

Lord Of Blame · Mar 11, 2009, 09:28 PM // 21:28

I would get EoTN. More heroes, more skills, better rewards, etc.

zling · Mar 11, 2009, 09:49 PM // 21:49

definatly prophecies, long and interesting(at least for the first time) storyline, the most free skills(from quests) and a good learning stage(pre searing). all in all prophecies was really meant for new players, when you're supposed to be below level 20 for quite some time, which lets you learn your class slowly and experiment with the different skills you get access to. the other campaigns have a noob island for you to reach almost level 20 in and than jump right into the deep water.

oh and 1 last thing, get used to repeating quests over and over again. you will be forced to do it if you wish to play more than 1 character(you already have 2). there are also some areas with repeatable quests, which means you can do them over and over again, mainly for farming purposes. I for one(and plenty of others also) have all 8 character slots full, all of these characters are level 20 and did a lot of quests at least 8 times, once with each character. so you really should start to get used to that if you like variaty.

Tharg · Mar 11, 2009, 10:00 PM // 22:00

I would stay with NF as starting point, since that is the place to start of with heroes. It will help you tremendously if you can get your triple necro setup going at some point.

Kumu Honua · Mar 11, 2009, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Another thing to note:

You stated that you had no healer. As a necro you could get away with that as your mob of minions were able to handle that. As a warrior you ARE the mob of minions. You need a healer to keep you alive.

Unless I misread your post. It kinda jumbled at the Dunkoro respec section.

Mar 11, 2009, 07:27 PM // 19:27	#1
Aftbrek Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2009	Bad Warrior Hello everyone. As the title notes, I am getting destroyed on my warrior. I recently started playing GW and the first character I made was a necro. I really enjoyed leveling my necro but now at level 20, I am pretty bored. I am playing as minion master which is cool and makes it pretty easy to tear through monsters and quests but it isn't really...interesting. I mostly just summon stuff and watch it go kill things for me and for the most part all I really need to do is keep them alive and summon more. Simply put, it isn't the game, or necessarily the character, but the way I play makes it a bit too easy and mindless. I have always enjoyed melee classes but I thought I would try a ranged character but as noted, I am a little sick of it. I created a warrior (NF) and he is currently level 7 and I really enjoy playing him but compared to my necro (when it was the same level) I am getting obliterated. Things go fine at the start but when you get to Jokanur Diggings and Champion's Dawn missions where the mobs are a bit higher level and grouped, I am dying way too easily. Again, I know this isn't so much a problem with the class but rather with the way I am playing it. I have respecced Dunkoro, my monk hero to protection(previously was smite) and when I have some time I will be trying again with Healer, Dunkoro, myself and another ranged DPS hench. As I haven't really had time to try this new grouping out, I am not sure if it will be as successful as I am hoping but simply put, can anyone shed some light on some playing tips as a low level warrior? To anyone who read this in its entirety, thank you. For tldr'ers: I am a bad warrior because it is different than other MMORPG melee classes I have played before. I am level 7, I only have NF, how can I stop being terrible. Thank you!

Mar 11, 2009, 08:11 PM // 20:11	#7
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Firstly, here is a link to the stickied warrior basics thread in the Campfire section Warrior subforum http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10326347 It will cover most of what you need to know as a beginning warrior. Secondly, stop comparing your warrior to your necro. The necro, as a caster, was never intentionally in the middle of a fight. His minions played that role. Your level 7 warrior needs his/her armor buffs, health runes, good skills, a decent weapon and a good healer. He needs a longbow for pulling so he doesn't get overwhelmed by a mob. He needs to be at a comparable level to the mobs he is fighting. Once you reach level 20, with max armor, and better skills, you will find that it is easier to beat higher level mobs. My warrior is my main character. She is great fun to play and only dies when I do something idiotic. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Mar 11, 2009, 07:31 PM // 19:31	#2
refer Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: US	Well for one, try to match the level of stuff in Jokanur Diggings... Foes are level 8-13, and being as a 7, that already puts a mark against you.

Mar 11, 2009, 07:44 PM // 19:44	#4
refer Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: US	What's your armor level? Maybe check that too?

Mar 11, 2009, 08:01 PM // 20:01	#5
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	definitely try to get the max armor u can. maybe try to lvl up some. there arent many specialized builds u can run at that low lvl. maybe if u have some high lvl friends or guildies, they could come help. lvl 20's will rip through that area.

Mar 11, 2009, 08:03 PM // 20:03	#6
Hanging Man Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Deep in the Shire	yeah don't rush through the game. take some time level up a little, cartographer noob island so you don't have to later. Check to make sure you have the highest armor available. make sure you meet the reqs of your weapon and shield. and it is tough for a little warrior to do much when your at such a low level. Stick it out, you'll be killing stuff soon enough

Mar 11, 2009, 08:16 PM // 20:16	#8
Zodiac Meteor Imma Firin Mah Rojway! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything. Profession: E/Mo	Do things in this order. 1) armor 2) skills 3) level 4) weapon PM me, I'll be happy to help you with builds and possibly armor. IGN = Zodiac Ele.

Mar 11, 2009, 08:23 PM // 20:23	#9
Aftbrek Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2009	Wow, thanks for the huge response and tips. Definitely going to be spending some time looking over the warrior guide. I had another thought, since I just did the quests to get off of noob island on my necro, it isn't too exciting to do them all over again on my warrior. I was thinking about starting my warrior on a different chapter of GW (only have NF right now), which chapter would you recommend or should I just stick with NF?

Mar 11, 2009, 08:41 PM // 20:41	#10
A H O Y T Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: TE. Guild: Delta Formation Profession: Mo/E	^ Well, I suggest Prophecies But that's just because I think it's the best game, and the warriors look the best..

Mar 11, 2009, 09:21 PM // 21:21	#11
Benderama Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: UK Guild: [Rage] Profession: Rt/	i'd agree, go with prophecies for a while it can never be too hard there, whenever you get stuck you can usually just level up or get the local armor and then you'll clear through the missions, and the stories great too. Factions is good too personally i like NF the least (not saying its a bad game just gets a bit stale if you're like me and suck more than humanley possible at HM and elite areas)

Mar 11, 2009, 09:25 PM // 21:25	#12
dylyn Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: western Massachusetts, USA Guild: Oscen Ex Merito [wAw] Profession: W/D	I have the Trilogy & Eye of the North. I've only visited Cantha and Elona, so I can't really judge them, but I definitely like having a warrior in the Prophecies campaign. I had just the opposite problem. I couldn't keep my Necro alive past a certain point. She was my first character, though, so I was still learning. I'm now running a W/N & was able to breeze through the first 15 or so of the Prophecies missions. EotN is also great. It seems to be the most active spot in GW right now if you like crowds.

Mar 11, 2009, 09:28 PM // 21:28	#13
Lord Of Blame Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Guild: Marked Souls [MkS] Profession: E/N	I would get EoTN. More heroes, more skills, better rewards, etc.

Mar 11, 2009, 09:49 PM // 21:49	#14
zling Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	definatly prophecies, long and interesting(at least for the first time) storyline, the most free skills(from quests) and a good learning stage(pre searing). all in all prophecies was really meant for new players, when you're supposed to be below level 20 for quite some time, which lets you learn your class slowly and experiment with the different skills you get access to. the other campaigns have a noob island for you to reach almost level 20 in and than jump right into the deep water. oh and 1 last thing, get used to repeating quests over and over again. you will be forced to do it if you wish to play more than 1 character(you already have 2). there are also some areas with repeatable quests, which means you can do them over and over again, mainly for farming purposes. I for one(and plenty of others also) have all 8 character slots full, all of these characters are level 20 and did a lot of quests at least 8 times, once with each character. so you really should start to get used to that if you like variaty.

Mar 11, 2009, 10:00 PM // 22:00	#15
Tharg Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Massachusetts Guild: Omega Glory Profession: Mo/	I would stay with NF as starting point, since that is the place to start of with heroes. It will help you tremendously if you can get your triple necro setup going at some point.

Mar 11, 2009, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#16
Kumu Honua Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2008	Another thing to note: You stated that you had no healer. As a necro you could get away with that as your mob of minions were able to handle that. As a warrior you ARE the mob of minions. You need a healer to keep you alive. Unless I misread your post. It kinda jumbled at the Dunkoro respec section.