Conjure Flame works for Wands? - Guild Wars Forums

papaschtroumpf · Mar 13, 2009, 02:09 AM // 02:09

Conjure Flame
Enchantment Spell. For 60 seconds, if you're wielding a fire weapon, your attacks strike for an additional 17 fire damage.

I wanted to check that "weapon" includes wands and staves in this context. So that this enchantment can turn my 11-22 fire damage wand into a 27-39 fire damage wand (before the 20% of 11-22 due to customization). If that's the case, it might be worth getting rid of Flare.

infamous16 · Mar 13, 2009, 02:17 AM // 02:17

there are a few conjure wand builds...but they dont really work well, XD.

papaschtroumpf · Mar 13, 2009, 02:21 AM // 02:21

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...but they dont really work well

OK, can you elaborate? I'm just after quick cheap damage, which I currently get with alternating flare and wand. spamming flare does get expensive.
This obviously would not be the focus of the build

MisterT69 · Mar 13, 2009, 03:01 AM // 03:01

I don't think the quick fix is augmenting your wand's strength while simultaneously spamming flare. The problem itself is that flare is on your bar. Go E/A AP promise and your damage problems will be solved.

[ebon vanguard assassin support][you move like a dwarf][assassin's promise][finish him]

NotJustAnothaNinja · Mar 13, 2009, 03:11 AM // 03:11

Aura of Resto and Fire Attunement should be very good energy management for and easy spam of flare.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Mar 13, 2009, 03:15 AM // 03:15

I read till replacing flare,

Replacing crap with less smelly crap is not the solution

Icy The Mage · Mar 13, 2009, 04:02 AM // 04:02

It works, but it's not very effective.

**Marty Silverblade** · Mar 13, 2009, 05:56 AM // 05:56

If you want to get a proper solution instead of a band-aid solution like this, post your entire build and we can find whats wrong with it. Generally with Ele builds, you'll want to get your build to a point where Flare isn't pulling its weight, and if it does in your build theres probably something we can fix.

Luminarus · Mar 13, 2009, 07:35 AM // 07:35

Conjure + Wand > Flare.... Doesnt make conjure + wand worth it.

legacyofkain85 · Mar 13, 2009, 12:43 PM // 12:43

i belive that conjure does work with wand and staffs,but tbh i fail to see a reason to waste a skill slot just to wand mobs and a nother skill slot so u can spam flare,stop auto atacking or spamming flare,use your other big damage skills insted ,like MisterT69 posted that build it's preety much auto win.

gremlin · Mar 13, 2009, 02:26 PM // 14:26

Yes it would work but its probably not worth it.

At first it seems that a spellcaster using a wand or staff to fire at enemies like any other ranged weapon is the way to go.
Otherwise why are they in the game hey Im a wizard I use wands right ?

Wrong

You can be far more efficient and make kills faster by using skills not weapons.
Its also why many spellcasters use melee weapons and shields, not for attacking with but because they are using the energy health and defence bonuses they give.

Its all wrong but sadly its the way the game mechanics work, any competent group of mages would have created decent wands and staffs years ago.

Where oh where is the wand of fireballs or the staff of the magi that I used and loved when I played D&D

Painbringer · Mar 13, 2009, 03:14 PM // 15:14

It works but really serves not much point you should be worring about [fireball] etc...

TheodenKing · Mar 13, 2009, 03:26 PM // 15:26

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Originally Posted by gremlin

Where oh where is the wand of fireballs or the staff of the magi that I used and loved when I played D&D

Roll saving throw NOW, btches!

zling · Mar 13, 2009, 03:33 PM // 15:33

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Originally Posted by papaschtroumpf

Conjure Flame
Enchantment Spell. For 60 seconds, if you're wielding a fire weapon, your attacks strike for an additional 17 fire damage.

I wanted to check that "weapon" includes wands and staves in this context. So that this enchantment can turn my 11-22 fire damage wand into a 27-39 fire damage wand (before the 20% of 11-22 due to customization). If that's the case, it might be worth getting rid of Flare.

w wh why on earth do you have [flare] on your skill bar?!?!?!?!
w wh why on earth do you want to use [conjure flame] on an Elementalist?!?!?!
w wh why on earth wouldn't you bring [fire attunement] and some nuking skills instead of fail [flare]/[conjure flame]?!?!?!

ok I'm done

Felixious · Mar 13, 2009, 03:54 PM // 15:54

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Originally Posted by zling

w wh why on earth do you have [flare] on your skill bar?!?!?!?!
w wh why on earth do you want to use [conjure flame] on an Elementalist?!?!?!
w wh why on earth wouldn't you bring [fire attunement] and some nuking skills instead of fail [flare]/[conjure flame]?!?!?!

ok I'm done

Why would you post this crap instead of helping out in a constructive way?
I don't play eles very often, but i do know that the conjures are more effective for classes that are able to use it with their skills. There's the Conjure wars, rangers, sins, and dervs.

As a previous poster stated, an ele with Assassins Promise and the set of PvE skills will probably make a huge diffrence in terms of damage. But really, YOU decide what skills you run, if you like flare, bring it, that's why you're able to re-roll your skillbar with a couple of clicks.

Bobulation · Mar 13, 2009, 04:30 PM // 16:30

[[spirit's Strength] + [[conjure flame] + [[Weapon of Aggression]+ wanding= gg

MagmaRed · Mar 13, 2009, 04:35 PM // 16:35

If you have decent damage skills on your bar already (NOT [flare]), and room for some more skills, [conjure flame] is decent SUPPORT damage. Don't base a build around it, but if you have a slot or 2 empty with no skills to use, this can work. Just don't expect this to be major damage. I'd also consider [mark of rodgort] if you expect to be wanding.

zling · Mar 13, 2009, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

If you have decent damage skills on your bar already (NOT [flare]), and room for some more skills, [conjure flame] is decent SUPPORT damage. Don't base a build around it, but if you have a slot or 2 empty with no skills to use, this can work. Just don't expect this to be major damage. I'd also consider [mark of rodgort] if you expect to be wanding.

sorry but this suggestion is just sad! why on earth would you have 2 "free skill slots" and why would you waste 1 of those slots on [conjure flame]???

DarkGanni · Mar 13, 2009, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Hi papaschtroumpf, while conjure flame is an elementalist skill it isn't designed to be used on eles. The answer to your question is yes, it works with your wand however as already been said it's not worth it.

Keep in mind that in GW some primary skills are not meant to be used by the primary profession itself. That's why characters have a primary and secondary profession. Skill combinations with 2 professions is the key to good builds.

Teknikaali · Mar 13, 2009, 06:08 PM // 18:08

[Conjure Flame][Spirit's Strength][Mark of Rodgort][Weapon of Aggression]
RED ENG.. ok you get it..

But what DarkGanni said, it's true:

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Keep in mind that in GW some primary skills are not meant to be used by the primary profession itself.

Mar 13, 2009, 02:09 AM // 02:09	#1
papaschtroumpf Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2009 Guild: [Moon]	Conjure Flame works for Wands? Conjure Flame Enchantment Spell. For 60 seconds, if you're wielding a fire weapon, your attacks strike for an additional 17 fire damage. I wanted to check that "weapon" includes wands and staves in this context. So that this enchantment can turn my 11-22 fire damage wand into a 27-39 fire damage wand (before the 20% of 11-22 due to customization). If that's the case, it might be worth getting rid of Flare.

Mar 13, 2009, 05:56 AM // 05:56	#8
Marty Silverblade Administrator Join Date: Jun 2006	If you want to get a proper solution instead of a band-aid solution like this, post your entire build and we can find whats wrong with it. Generally with Ele builds, you'll want to get your build to a point where Flare isn't pulling its weight, and if it does in your build theres probably something we can fix. __________________

Mar 13, 2009, 04:30 PM // 16:30	#16
Bobulation Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Profession: W/Mo	[[spirit's Strength] + [[conjure flame] + [[Weapon of Aggression]+ wanding= gg Last edited by Bobulation; Mar 13, 2009 at 04:33 PM // 16:33..

Mar 13, 2009, 02:17 AM // 02:17	#2
infamous16 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2007 Profession: Rt/	there are a few conjure wand builds...but they dont really work well, XD.

Mar 13, 2009, 03:01 AM // 03:01	#4
MisterT69 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Scions of Carver [SCAR] Profession: E/	I don't think the quick fix is augmenting your wand's strength while simultaneously spamming flare. The problem itself is that flare is on your bar. Go E/A AP promise and your damage problems will be solved. [ebon vanguard assassin support][you move like a dwarf][assassin's promise][finish him]

Mar 13, 2009, 03:11 AM // 03:11	#5
NotJustAnothaNinja Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2009 Guild: N/A Profession: E/	Aura of Resto and Fire Attunement should be very good energy management for and easy spam of flare.

Mar 13, 2009, 03:15 AM // 03:15	#6
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	I read till replacing flare, Replacing crap with less smelly crap is not the solution

Mar 13, 2009, 04:02 AM // 04:02	#7
Icy The Mage Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Profession: E/	It works, but it's not very effective.

Mar 13, 2009, 07:35 AM // 07:35	#9
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Conjure + Wand > Flare.... Doesnt make conjure + wand worth it.

Mar 13, 2009, 12:43 PM // 12:43	#10
legacyofkain85 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: Lady Ainowa	i belive that conjure does work with wand and staffs,but tbh i fail to see a reason to waste a skill slot just to wand mobs and a nother skill slot so u can spam flare,stop auto atacking or spamming flare,use your other big damage skills insted ,like MisterT69 posted that build it's preety much auto win.

Mar 13, 2009, 02:26 PM // 14:26	#11
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	Yes it would work but its probably not worth it. At first it seems that a spellcaster using a wand or staff to fire at enemies like any other ranged weapon is the way to go. Otherwise why are they in the game hey Im a wizard I use wands right ? Wrong You can be far more efficient and make kills faster by using skills not weapons. Its also why many spellcasters use melee weapons and shields, not for attacking with but because they are using the energy health and defence bonuses they give. Its all wrong but sadly its the way the game mechanics work, any competent group of mages would have created decent wands and staffs years ago. Where oh where is the wand of fireballs or the staff of the magi that I used and loved when I played D&D

Mar 13, 2009, 03:14 PM // 15:14	#12
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	It works but really serves not much point you should be worring about [fireball] etc...

Mar 13, 2009, 04:35 PM // 16:35	#17
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	If you have decent damage skills on your bar already (NOT [flare]), and room for some more skills, [conjure flame] is decent SUPPORT damage. Don't base a build around it, but if you have a slot or 2 empty with no skills to use, this can work. Just don't expect this to be major damage. I'd also consider [mark of rodgort] if you expect to be wanding.

Mar 13, 2009, 05:43 PM // 17:43	#19
DarkGanni Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Malta Guild: [CuTe] Profession: E/	Hi papaschtroumpf, while conjure flame is an elementalist skill it isn't designed to be used on eles. The answer to your question is yes, it works with your wand however as already been said it's not worth it. Keep in mind that in GW some primary skills are not meant to be used by the primary profession itself. That's why characters have a primary and secondary profession. Skill combinations with 2 professions is the key to good builds.