Trying to Get a Elder Pet - Guild Wars Forums

Sir Tidus · Aug 25, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27

I'm trying to get an Elder Mountain Eagle. The impressive I get is that elder pets are the hardest to get of any evolution. I've looked up guides and all of them only tell me how to get a dire pet. But I've got the basics: Let an animal kill you till it's level 11 and charm it, at which time it should be Aggressive. Is this step correct? I was wondering after this how should I level it up without it becoming dire, instead I want elder. Would death leveling work? If it levels to 15 without taking or dealing damage, then it won't loss it's prefix will it? Or should I try to go for elder with a playful pet? Sorry about the chain of questions, but can someone just tell me what the easiest way to get an Elder Mountain Eagle is? Thank you very much in advance.

here to troll · Aug 25, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44

get aggressive then get hearty, you will get the balance(so basically death level to 11, then either let the pet tank ask much and just keep healing it(heal as one is good for this) or-i'm not 100% sure this works so dont take my word for it- let your pet die in an instance and dont rez it, it will still gain exp but dont deal any damage

Elder III · Aug 25, 2008, 09:46 PM // 21:46

Unless my memory fails me, i got an elder pet with death leveling, pretty quickly too. The wiki has a very in depth guide on how to get all types of pets.

I'd go read up and quote it to you, but it's too late here and I'm too brain dead at the moment........ *yawns*

Sir Tidus · Aug 25, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by Elder III

The wiki has a very in depth guide on how to get all types of pets.

If you would be kind enough to direct me. I can't find it.

LicensedLuny · Aug 25, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

You may also be able to evolve a pet into Elder by taking it on those hm SS/LB runs out of Remains of Salajah (sp.) that are so popular. I think I remember a friend brought a pet along. Pet stayed dead by where we got in the wurms, but it gained XP. Since it never dealt or took any damage, it wound up balanced.

I could be wrong. I'm mentioning it only because it struck me as a really easy way to level the pet if you were doing those runs anyway. I've had the same pet since preSearing. The only intentional pet leveling I've ever participated in was helping a friend make a dire ... something or another by letting it kill me too.

Sir Tidus · Aug 25, 2008, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by LicensedLuny

You may also be able to evolve a pet into Elder by taking it on those hm SS/LB runs out of Remains of Salajah (sp.) that are so popular. I think I remember a friend brought a pet along. Pet stayed dead by where we got in the wurms, but it gained XP. Since it never dealt or took any damage, it wound up balanced.

I could be wrong. I'm mentioning it only because it struck me as a really easy way to level the pet if you were doing those runs anyway. I've had the same pet since preSearing. The only intentional pet leveling I've ever participated in was helping a friend make a dire ... something or another by letting it kill me too.

No, I think if you level a pet dead, then it will not gain any prefix even though it will have the same stats as elder. I want both the stats and the name (I think there's a size boost too).

KoKoS · Aug 25, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Pet Evolution StatsHearty: -(~12-14)% damage, +60 health
Playful: -(~5)% damage, +30 health
Elder: -0 damage, +0 health
Aggressive: +(~5)% damage, -30 health
Dire: +(~12-14)% damage, -60 health
It is commonly believed that an Elder pet has a damage bonus of +3; however, attempts to validate this have shown that this is not true.

dunno what these mean but they are form wiki =) :
http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pet

LicensedLuny · Aug 25, 2008, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

No, I think if you level a pet dead, then it will not gain any prefix even though it will have the same stats as elder. I want both the stats and the name (I think there's a size boost too).

Ok, it's been a while, so I may not be remembering correctly, but I think my friend's pet stayed dead with no prefix and then he noticed it leveled up with the prefix next time he went out with it and after using /petname Random and then /petname again to revert it. I don't think the elder showed up until after he named and then unnamed it.

_Nihilist_ · Aug 26, 2008, 06:26 AM // 06:26

A pet with no prefix *IS* an Elder evolution. Elder will not show up until the pet reaches lvl 20, as there is no middle prefix before then. Under lvl 11 you will have an Elder pet, as it hasn't dealt/received damage. If @ lvl 11 it still has no prefix (Playful or Aggressive) then it is still middle of the road. At lvl 20 it will be Hearty/Elder/Dire. Try the Worm trick, pets gain XP even while dead, no matter where they are on the map, this is the easiest way to make sure that your pet levels the way you want it to.

MisterB · Aug 26, 2008, 06:48 AM // 06:48

The guide from GuildWiki on evolving Dire pets contains some information on Elder pets. Excerpt is below, with relevant portions in bold. AFK is easy, no?

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Guid...ing_a_Dire_Pet

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Pet Death Leveling

The basis of this concept is to level the animal before successfully charming it as your pet. To do this start charming the animal to make it aggressive, then cancel the charm. Allow the animal to kill you repeatedly, giving it experience. An often desired side effect of this process is that (since the potential pet is taking no damage while killing you) a Dire evolution can easily be achieved.

Speeding up Death Leveling

* Un-equip all of your armor and held items that increase your health or armor level. Equipping items that decrease your health or armor (such as the Grim Cesta from the Cities of Ascalon quest or Vampiric weapons) may be beneficial.
* Alternatively use very low level armor and several superior runes to lower your HP even further.
* Draw the animal to a resurrection shrine so that it will start to kill you again as soon as you resurrect.
* If you don't mind staying at your computer to make repetitive actions, it can be beneficial to use sacrifice skills or frenzy to help the pet kill you even faster.
* Bring heroes to use Resurrect on you as soon as you die, speeding up the process; since Resurrect gives you only 25% health, at 60% Death Penalty the potential pet will be killing you in half a dozen hits at most. This also enables you to death level a pet away from a resurrection shrine.

Notes for Death Leveling with Heroes

* If using heroes be certain to set them to Avoid Combat so they don't kill the animal. Don't allow the heroes to heal you, but ensure they can heal themselves. For example, heroes can be given Mending, cast it on themselves and then have it disabled.
* If you accumulate too much death penalty while using superior runes and a hero to resurrect you, you will die instantly you are resurrected. The pet will still gain experience as if it had killed you, but will not continue to move toward a Dire Evolution. In addition it may be impossible for you to be resurrected permanently in order to charm the animal; to avoid this equip your hero with a disabled Resurrection Signet or Vengeance and use it when you wish to remain alive long enough to swap out your armor.
* Equip your heroes with Troll Unguent so they can heal themselves. That way they won't be able to accidentally heal you.

Method Summary

Bring two heroes, with Resurrect or Rebirth along with Resurrection Signet, disable all healing skills and the Resurrection Signet and set them to 'Avoid' for the duration of the death leveling. Reduce your health through whatever means you have available. When the pet reaches level 20 - most likely Dire if you have not used superior runes for instant death, most likely Elder or 'no evolution' if you have - disable Resurrect or Rebirth, enable Resurrection Signet, and enable the healing and they will keep you alive long enough to re-equip and charm the pet.

Using these techniques it is possible to aquire a Level 20 Dire pet in as little as half an hour, especially if you choose a pet that can be found easily without aggroing any enemies.

Non-Dire Evolutions

If you desire an Elder pet this can be achieved by charming at level 15 (with the Aggressive evolution) then gaining experience with your pet without assigning any points into Beast Mastery or equipping pet attacks. The pet should deal very little damage, consequently switching evolutions and becoming Elder or 'no evolution'.

Basically, just equip 5 superior runes on the lowest armor you can find, and equip the -50 cesta. You could also try to get to 60% DP beforehand, thus reducing your health to 1. Then just death level the pet to 20, and it should be Elder if I read that method correctly. The pet will instantly kill you while dealing insignificant damage, thus preventing the Dire evolution.

Please note that I have not tested this method myself; it is based solely on my understanding of this article.

Sir Tidus · Aug 26, 2008, 05:08 PM // 17:08

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Originally Posted by MisterB

The guide from GuildWiki on evolving Dire pets contains some information on Elder pets. Excerpt is below, with relevant portions in bold. AFK is easy, no?

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Guid...ing_a_Dire_Pet

Basically, just equip 5 superior runes on the lowest armor you can find, and equip the -50 cesta. You could also try to get to 60% DP beforehand, thus reducing your health to 1. Then just death level the pet to 20, and it should be Elder if I read that method correctly. The pet will instantly kill you while dealing insignificant damage, thus preventing the Dire evolution.

I thought it was lower damage dealt to damage taken ratio to make your pet become more hearty. So even if you have 1 health, your pet may be dealing low damage, but it's still not taking any damage.

pixie the monk · Aug 26, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

If you desire an Elder pet this can be achieved by charming at level 15 (with the Aggressive evolution) then gaining experience with your pet without assigning any points into Beast Mastery or equipping pet attacks. The pet should deal very little damage, consequently switching evolutions and becoming Elder or 'no evolution'.

Death levelling is not suitable for obtaining a Hearty pet.
[edit] Suitable Pets

* Polar Bears spawn close to Boreal Station usually away from any enemies.
* Mountain Eagles spawn around the Resurrection Shrine north of Eye of the North
* Lions and Lionesses spawn not far from the portal from Command Post into Jahai Bluffs. They are hostile but charmable; all but one will need to be killed before the process is begun. They do however spawn at level 12, making this an even quicker way to gain a level 20 pet.
* Lynxes spawn at a Resurrection Shrine close to Lion's Arch. To get there from Lion's Arch go west across the bridge and north to the shrine. Kill all of the weak enemies around the area first.
* Tigers spawn right outside of Maatu Keep in Pongmei Valley usually away from enemies.
* A Black Wolf or a White Wolf will spawn at the Great Wolf Shrine just inside the cave west of Sifhalla. There are two patrolling enemies that should be killed at the mouth of the cave before commencing Death Leveling.

Sir Tidus · Aug 26, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by pixie the monk

If you desire an Elder pet this can be achieved by charming at level 15 (with the Aggressive evolution) then gaining experience with your pet without assigning any points into Beast Mastery or equipping pet attacks. The pet should deal very little damage, consequently switching evolutions and becoming Elder or 'no evolution'.

That's straight out of Wiki. I don't think it's exactly right, because level 15 is when pets make their second evolution. If you want the aggressive evolution you should probably charm it at level 11.

dilan155 · Aug 26, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01

i would say desolation is still prob the easiest way to make an elder pet, not sure about the name thing so i would suggest you do this with a different pet than what you want( only if its hard to get like black moa or spiders). not sure never been a beastmaster.

Archress Shayleigh · Mar 16, 2009, 12:53 PM // 12:53

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Originally Posted by Sir Tidus

No, I think if you level a pet dead, then it will not gain any prefix even though it will have the same stats as elder. I want both the stats and the name (I think there's a size boost too).

Stats = Same as unevolved
Name = Just name it Elder Mountain Eagle
Size Boost = Pretty sure there isn't

Aug 25, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27	#1
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Trying to Get a Elder Pet I'm trying to get an Elder Mountain Eagle. The impressive I get is that elder pets are the hardest to get of any evolution. I've looked up guides and all of them only tell me how to get a dire pet. But I've got the basics: Let an animal kill you till it's level 11 and charm it, at which time it should be Aggressive. Is this step correct? I was wondering after this how should I level it up without it becoming dire, instead I want elder. Would death leveling work? If it levels to 15 without taking or dealing damage, then it won't loss it's prefix will it? Or should I try to go for elder with a playful pet? Sorry about the chain of questions, but can someone just tell me what the easiest way to get an Elder Mountain Eagle is? Thank you very much in advance.

Aug 25, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44	#2
here to troll Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2008	get aggressive then get hearty, you will get the balance(so basically death level to 11, then either let the pet tank ask much and just keep healing it(heal as one is good for this) or-i'm not 100% sure this works so dont take my word for it- let your pet die in an instance and dont rez it, it will still gain exp but dont deal any damage

Aug 25, 2008, 09:46 PM // 21:46	#3
Elder III Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Guild: I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY) Profession: R/	Unless my memory fails me, i got an elder pet with death leveling, pretty quickly too. The wiki has a very in depth guide on how to get all types of pets. I'd go read up and quote it to you, but it's too late here and I'm too brain dead at the moment........ yawns

Aug 25, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#5
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	You may also be able to evolve a pet into Elder by taking it on those hm SS/LB runs out of Remains of Salajah (sp.) that are so popular. I think I remember a friend brought a pet along. Pet stayed dead by where we got in the wurms, but it gained XP. Since it never dealt or took any damage, it wound up balanced. I could be wrong. I'm mentioning it only because it struck me as a really easy way to level the pet if you were doing those runs anyway. I've had the same pet since preSearing. The only intentional pet leveling I've ever participated in was helping a friend make a dire ... something or another by letting it kill me too.

Aug 25, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20	#7
KoKoS Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: aBove Empress Amarox xP Guild: KDT Profession: Mo/E	Pet Evolution StatsHearty: -(~12-14)% damage, +60 health Playful: -(~5)% damage, +30 health Elder: -0 damage, +0 health Aggressive: +(~5)% damage, -30 health Dire: +(~12-14)% damage, -60 health It is commonly believed that an Elder pet has a damage bonus of +3; however, attempts to validate this have shown that this is not true. dunno what these mean but they are form wiki =) : http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pet

Aug 26, 2008, 06:26 AM // 06:26	#9
_Nihilist_ Will Bull's Strike for $! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Isle of the Dead	A pet with no prefix IS an Elder evolution. Elder will not show up until the pet reaches lvl 20, as there is no middle prefix before then. Under lvl 11 you will have an Elder pet, as it hasn't dealt/received damage. If @ lvl 11 it still has no prefix (Playful or Aggressive) then it is still middle of the road. At lvl 20 it will be Hearty/Elder/Dire. Try the Worm trick, pets gain XP even while dead, no matter where they are on the map, this is the easiest way to make sure that your pet levels the way you want it to.

Aug 26, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19	#12
pixie the monk Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: here and sometimes there... Guild: AatX Profession: Mo/Me	If you desire an Elder pet this can be achieved by charming at level 15 (with the Aggressive evolution) then gaining experience with your pet without assigning any points into Beast Mastery or equipping pet attacks. The pet should deal very little damage, consequently switching evolutions and becoming Elder or 'no evolution'. Death levelling is not suitable for obtaining a Hearty pet. [edit] Suitable Pets * Polar Bears spawn close to Boreal Station usually away from any enemies. * Mountain Eagles spawn around the Resurrection Shrine north of Eye of the North * Lions and Lionesses spawn not far from the portal from Command Post into Jahai Bluffs. They are hostile but charmable; all but one will need to be killed before the process is begun. They do however spawn at level 12, making this an even quicker way to gain a level 20 pet. * Lynxes spawn at a Resurrection Shrine close to Lion's Arch. To get there from Lion's Arch go west across the bridge and north to the shrine. Kill all of the weak enemies around the area first. * Tigers spawn right outside of Maatu Keep in Pongmei Valley usually away from enemies. * A Black Wolf or a White Wolf will spawn at the Great Wolf Shrine just inside the cave west of Sifhalla. There are two patrolling enemies that should be killed at the mouth of the cave before commencing Death Leveling.

Aug 26, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01	#14
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	i would say desolation is still prob the easiest way to make an elder pet, not sure about the name thing so i would suggest you do this with a different pet than what you want( only if its hard to get like black moa or spiders). not sure never been a beastmaster.