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tom999 · Apr 03, 2009, 07:24 PM // 19:24

which is the best inscription for daggers seeing as an extra 15% dmg only takes base dmg up to 8-19.

HawkofStorms · Apr 03, 2009, 08:05 PM // 20:05

Well, 15% or 20% damage modifiers are the ONLY type of inscriptions for weapons besides +energy ones.
Some people claim that using +energy daggers are better so you can get your chain off. They are definitely useful after getting death penalty.

But really, if you have good energy management, use zealous, and don't die a lot, you might as well use some sort of 15%. Every little bit helps.

Skyy High · Apr 03, 2009, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Do +% damage modifiers (either inscription or suffix) apply to base damage alone, or the total damage including +damage from attack skills?

*Darcy* · Apr 03, 2009, 09:07 PM // 21:07

use +5 energy (I Have the Power)

Dagger damage is small and the damage buffs do not make much difference. But an extra 5 energy can mean getting another skill off.

makosi · Apr 03, 2009, 09:25 PM // 21:25

Use "Strength and Honor" in PvP because you're a damage dealer and you need all of the damage you can get. If you need the +5 energy for your chain then:

- there's something wrong with your skills,
- you're DP'd out,
- you need more Critical Strikes
- or you need Zealous Daggers.

In most situations high Critical Strikes and Vampiric daggers tend to work best in terms of energy management and DPS. There are loads of daggers attack skills that provide (lots of) energy.

[critical strike][falling lotus strike][golden lotus strike][lotus strike][black lotus strike]

zelgadissan · Apr 03, 2009, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyy High

Do +% damage modifiers (either inscription or suffix) apply to base damage alone, or the total damage including +damage from attack skills?

Only base weapon damage, which is why (for daggers) 15^50 vs. +5e is actually a relatively common debate on these forums. +5e can mean getting another skill off with big +damage, while 15^50 is increasing your damage over every strike.

OP - test around, see what you're most comfortable with. Personally I'm with Hawk; use 15^50 unless you've got DP, then +5e can mean the difference in your chain.

Tom Swift · Apr 03, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53

I think the last argument over this took several pages of posts. I suppose there is a "best" inscription for daggers (probably different for each individual). But, frankly, none of the inscription matter a diddly when it it comes to daggers. zealous + the fast attack rate of sins makes the + energy ones fairly inconsequential and the low damage of daggers makes the + dmg ones pretty irrelevant.

snaek · Apr 03, 2009, 11:22 PM // 23:22

15>50 is the best

crit hits are good...and i hear sins get them lots

+5 energy is viable and may be required in some situations, but not the best overall

Rhamia Darigaz · Apr 04, 2009, 12:20 AM // 00:20

there's no reason you can't have both...
use the 15>50 unless you need an extra 5 energy to use a skill, in which case you can swap to +5e, use the skill, and swap back to 15>50.

FengShuiDove · Apr 04, 2009, 12:50 AM // 00:50

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Originally Posted by Rhamia Darigaz

there's no reason you can't have both...
use the 15>50 unless you need an extra 5 energy to use a skill, in which case you can swap to +5e, use the skill, and swap back to 15>50.

Aye. Giving you the ability to swap for DP as well.

Boneyard Spleeneater · Apr 04, 2009, 07:15 PM // 19:15

True. Also, if you customize, you get +35% or somewhere thereabouts. It might be closer to 33%, depending on how the bonuses stack. 33% can add up quckly.

Even if it doesn't apply to the +dmg from your skills (which I don't think it does), you still have IAS and chance of dual strike as a sin. so if you can hit for an extra 2-5 pts each strike, that adds up pretty quickly. Over the course of a chain, that can be up to 20-30 pts, which is an extra hit or two.

Apr 03, 2009, 07:24 PM // 19:24	#1
tom999 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2009 Guild: House of Lord Darcia [HoLD] Profession: W/	best inscription for daggers which is the best inscription for daggers seeing as an extra 15% dmg only takes base dmg up to 8-19. Last edited by tom999; Apr 03, 2009 at 08:01 PM // 20:01..

Apr 03, 2009, 09:07 PM // 21:07	#4
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	use +5 energy (I Have the Power) Dagger damage is small and the damage buffs do not make much difference. But an extra 5 energy can mean getting another skill off. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Apr 03, 2009, 08:05 PM // 20:05	#2
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Well, 15% or 20% damage modifiers are the ONLY type of inscriptions for weapons besides +energy ones. Some people claim that using +energy daggers are better so you can get your chain off. They are definitely useful after getting death penalty. But really, if you have good energy management, use zealous, and don't die a lot, you might as well use some sort of 15%. Every little bit helps.

Apr 03, 2009, 08:54 PM // 20:54	#3
Skyy High Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2006 Profession: R/	Do +% damage modifiers (either inscription or suffix) apply to base damage alone, or the total damage including +damage from attack skills?

Apr 03, 2009, 09:25 PM // 21:25	#5
makosi Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: "Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff. Guild: Requirement Begins With R [notQ] Profession: Me/	Use "Strength and Honor" in PvP because you're a damage dealer and you need all of the damage you can get. If you need the +5 energy for your chain then: - there's something wrong with your skills, - you're DP'd out, - you need more Critical Strikes - or you need Zealous Daggers. In most situations high Critical Strikes and Vampiric daggers tend to work best in terms of energy management and DPS. There are loads of daggers attack skills that provide (lots of) energy. [critical strike][falling lotus strike][golden lotus strike][lotus strike][black lotus strike]

Apr 03, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53	#7
Tom Swift Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2007	I think the last argument over this took several pages of posts. I suppose there is a "best" inscription for daggers (probably different for each individual). But, frankly, none of the inscription matter a diddly when it it comes to daggers. zealous + the fast attack rate of sins makes the + energy ones fairly inconsequential and the low damage of daggers makes the + dmg ones pretty irrelevant.

Apr 03, 2009, 11:22 PM // 23:22	#8
snaek Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: N/	15>50 is the best crit hits are good...and i hear sins get them lots +5 energy is viable and may be required in some situations, but not the best overall

Apr 04, 2009, 12:20 AM // 00:20	#9
Rhamia Darigaz Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2008	there's no reason you can't have both... use the 15>50 unless you need an extra 5 energy to use a skill, in which case you can swap to +5e, use the skill, and swap back to 15>50.

Apr 04, 2009, 07:15 PM // 19:15	#11
Boneyard Spleeneater Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Guild: Immortal Corruptors [GWAR] Profession: Me/N	True. Also, if you customize, you get +35% or somewhere thereabouts. It might be closer to 33%, depending on how the bonuses stack. 33% can add up quckly. Even if it doesn't apply to the +dmg from your skills (which I don't think it does), you still have IAS and chance of dual strike as a sin. so if you can hit for an extra 2-5 pts each strike, that adds up pretty quickly. Over the course of a chain, that can be up to 20-30 pts, which is an extra hit or two.