Question about double vamps - Guild Wars Forums

Undead King Knight · Mar 31, 2009, 10:01 PM // 22:01

1. Why are they so rare?
2. Whats stoping someone from finding a 15% dmg -1hp regen and putting a vamp mod on it?

Thanks in advance.

take_me · Mar 31, 2009, 10:05 PM // 22:05

The +15% / -1 Health Regeneration Mod is just rarer than others.... but most just merch them... or open a thread and ask how many millions they can get for it...

Answer to your second question: Nothing

makosi · Mar 31, 2009, 10:15 PM // 22:15

1) They're rare because they drop signifigantly less frequently than other damage mods. -1 energy regeneration items have a comparable drop rate.

2) Nothing stops you putting a vampiric mod on them but you'll suffer -2 regen which is only counterable with [mending].

4 years and the Mending jokes keep rolling...

Covah · Mar 31, 2009, 10:23 PM // 22:23

As the others have said the mod is just uncommon. People buy them so that they can die faster and or die with cons up.

Pony Slaystation · Apr 01, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17

I don't understand how they're worth so much... even if they're rare, why would you want a weapon that gives you -1 degen, and a bonus that you can easily get with just about every other weapon out there...

Luminarus · Apr 01, 2009, 12:33 AM // 00:33

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Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation

I don't understand how they're worth so much... even if they're rare, why would you want a weapon that gives you -1 degen, and a bonus that you can easily get with just about every other weapon out there...

Its useful to be able to swap to a -2 degen weapon, and a -50 cesta to kill yourself in a gvg match before the timer hits 2 minutes. Many teams will hold a player back and wait until just after the 2 minute res has occured to kill them to force a 7v8 advantage. A -50hp cesta + dual vamp sword/axe can often kill you meaning they dont have that advantage.

DarkFlame · Apr 01, 2009, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation

I don't understand how they're worth so much... even if they're rare, why would you want a weapon that gives you -1 degen, and a bonus that you can easily get with just about every other weapon out there...

More variety is more variety. Its one more option that player has over someone else.

And they have never been worth that much anyway and no longer appear to be that rare(given the number of recent threads/PCs asking about them).

Robbeh The Mad · Apr 01, 2009, 05:15 AM // 05:15

Factions end game weapons are a total buzz kill. All -1 degen :\

joshuarodger · Apr 04, 2009, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation

I don't understand how they're worth so much... even if they're rare, why would you want a weapon that gives you -1 degen, and a bonus that you can easily get with just about every other weapon out there...

well in gvg, you get autorezzed every 2 minutes. oftentimes teams will stop beating up on a certain guy about 5-10 seconds before that timer so they don't get autorezzed, then after the timer passes they kill you and there's nothing you can do about it. if you're that guy getting stomped and you can equip a weapon with -2 health degen and a -50 cesta before the timer you'll most likely kill yourself and get autorezzed. since you're going to be killed immediately after the timer anyway, you might as well kill yourself so your team doesn't have to waste a rez, and the time it takes to rez you, after the 2 minute mark.

that's the practical use for them, they're expensive because they're quite rare.

EDIT: dammit i totally didn't see luminarus' response before i typed this whole thing out....

Konker2020 · Apr 05, 2009, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Ok... maybe I'm missing something here, or in the 2 years of my playing I have never ever gotten one, but can you actually get a weapon with:

Life Stealing: 3
Health Regen: -1

and

Dmg + 15%
Health Regen: -1 (This is the part in question, I have never seen anything like this)

I have seen and energy mod for +15E/-1 Eregen, that is very common, but have never ever seen a vamp (inscript-type) mod...

HawkofStorms · Apr 05, 2009, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Yes Konker.

That's exactly what we are talking about.

The 15% damage -1 health regen mod is fairly uncommon, and doesn't drop as an inscription (so you only see it in Prophecies and Factions weapons). You only see it once in a blue moon. However, it isn't that valuable, just kinda unusual.

There is also weapons with 15% damage -1 energy.

In my 3 and a half years of playing, I've probably gotten less then a dozen of these.

Crom The Pale · Apr 05, 2009, 12:58 PM // 12:58

I think the better question should be why isn't there an inscription for 15% -1 HP/Energy Regen?

zling · Apr 05, 2009, 01:31 PM // 13:31

because inscriptions pretty much ruined the weapons market, no longer does 1 need a good skin with actually good built in mods, now you just need the skin and the req, the rest comes from interchangable mods. so at least we still have something sought after that doesn't appear in an inscription.

Konker2020 · Apr 05, 2009, 03:47 PM // 15:47

So to get one... I would have to spend a lot of time playing in factions and prophecies in "hopes" of getting one... are there specific requirements to getting one, for example requirements similar to getting max q8 items?

If so, what are they? Can they be gotten as gold items? Can they be gotten as max items?

Sorry for all the questions, I just honestly didn't know they existed and I know a lot, if not just about everything about this game so it comes as a huge surprise...

Bowstring Badass · Apr 05, 2009, 04:54 PM // 16:54

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Originally Posted by Konker2020

So to get one... I would have to spend a lot of time playing in factions and prophecies in "hopes" of getting one... are there specific requirements to getting one, for example requirements similar to getting max q8 items?

If so, what are they? Can they be gotten as gold items? Can they be gotten as max items?

Sorry for all the questions, I just honestly didn't know they existed and I know a lot, if not just about everything about this game so it comes as a huge surprise...

There is not set requirement for these weapons. It can be a non max purple sword of enchanting and it can have the +%dmg -1 health on it.

Mar 31, 2009, 10:01 PM // 22:01	#1
Undead King Knight Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2009 Guild: Imperious Vengance [IV] Profession: W/	Question about double vamps 1. Why are they so rare? 2. Whats stoping someone from finding a 15% dmg -1hp regen and putting a vamp mod on it? Thanks in advance.

Mar 31, 2009, 10:05 PM // 22:05	#2
take_me Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe Guild: Country Roads [HOME]	The +15% / -1 Health Regeneration Mod is just rarer than others.... but most just merch them... or open a thread and ask how many millions they can get for it... Answer to your second question: Nothing

Mar 31, 2009, 10:15 PM // 22:15	#3
makosi Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: "Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff. Guild: Requirement Begins With R [notQ] Profession: Me/	1) They're rare because they drop signifigantly less frequently than other damage mods. -1 energy regeneration items have a comparable drop rate. 2) Nothing stops you putting a vampiric mod on them but you'll suffer -2 regen which is only counterable with [mending]. 4 years and the Mending jokes keep rolling...

Mar 31, 2009, 10:23 PM // 22:23	#4
Covah Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ] Profession: Me/Rt	As the others have said the mod is just uncommon. People buy them so that they can die faster and or die with cons up.

Apr 01, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17	#5
Pony Slaystation Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cardboard Box Guild: Guilds are irrelevant. This... is...... BUILD WARS!!! Profession: Rt/	I don't understand how they're worth so much... even if they're rare, why would you want a weapon that gives you -1 degen, and a bonus that you can easily get with just about every other weapon out there...

Apr 01, 2009, 05:15 AM // 05:15	#8
Robbeh The Mad Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: AFK somewhere in Kryta Guild: Raven Alliance Profession: W/	Factions end game weapons are a total buzz kill. All -1 degen :\

Apr 05, 2009, 02:19 AM // 02:19	#10
Konker2020 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Guild: Exiled Forcez [Ex]	Ok... maybe I'm missing something here, or in the 2 years of my playing I have never ever gotten one, but can you actually get a weapon with: Life Stealing: 3 Health Regen: -1 and Dmg + 15% Health Regen: -1 (This is the part in question, I have never seen anything like this) I have seen and energy mod for +15E/-1 Eregen, that is very common, but have never ever seen a vamp (inscript-type) mod...

Apr 05, 2009, 02:39 AM // 02:39	#11
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Yes Konker. That's exactly what we are talking about. The 15% damage -1 health regen mod is fairly uncommon, and doesn't drop as an inscription (so you only see it in Prophecies and Factions weapons). You only see it once in a blue moon. However, it isn't that valuable, just kinda unusual. There is also weapons with 15% damage -1 energy. In my 3 and a half years of playing, I've probably gotten less then a dozen of these.

Apr 05, 2009, 12:58 PM // 12:58	#12
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	I think the better question should be why isn't there an inscription for 15% -1 HP/Energy Regen?

Apr 05, 2009, 01:31 PM // 13:31	#13
zling Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	because inscriptions pretty much ruined the weapons market, no longer does 1 need a good skin with actually good built in mods, now you just need the skin and the req, the rest comes from interchangable mods. so at least we still have something sought after that doesn't appear in an inscription.

Apr 05, 2009, 03:47 PM // 15:47	#14
Konker2020 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2009 Guild: Exiled Forcez [Ex]	So to get one... I would have to spend a lot of time playing in factions and prophecies in "hopes" of getting one... are there specific requirements to getting one, for example requirements similar to getting max q8 items? If so, what are they? Can they be gotten as gold items? Can they be gotten as max items? Sorry for all the questions, I just honestly didn't know they existed and I know a lot, if not just about everything about this game so it comes as a huge surprise...