1/4 Cast Intrrupts 1/4 Spells??? - Guild Wars Forums

Catchphrase · Apr 14, 2009, 12:54 PM // 12:54

Can anybody please explain to me how the mobs in HM (especially mesmer bosses) have the uncanny ability to interrupt 1/4 cast spells? Does the rule of "lowest reduction of casting time to 1s" don't apply to them?

Not that I have problems with it but I find this rather peculiar as I fought the mursaat mesmer boss in HM Ring of Fire mission and it can consistently Power Leak my Attacker's Insight. And I don't think its sheer luck at all.

Slabby · Apr 14, 2009, 12:59 PM // 12:59

HM gives foes speed advantages :
Speed: Monsters' attack speed, movement speed, skill casting speed, and skill recharge rate are all increased to be 33-50% faster than normal.

This should explain a lot.

fb2000 · Apr 14, 2009, 01:04 PM // 13:04

Yep, increased speed does work on every skill - attack skills benefit from attack speed increase, making it possible for a 1/4 activation skill interrupt a 1/4 sec spell. Same with interruption spells

Xenomortis · Apr 14, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Do mesmer enemies have ranks in Fast Casting? I havn't really payed much attention to that.
Also, casting time of enemies in HM is almost always reduced.

Catchphrase · Apr 14, 2009, 01:15 PM // 13:15

So 1/4s skill become 1/8s? Dang, and I thought the lowest activation time is capped at 1/4s... -____-

Slabby · Apr 14, 2009, 01:29 PM // 13:29

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Originally Posted by Catchphrase

So 1/4s skill become 1/8s? Dang, and I thought the lowest activation time is capped at 1/4s... -____-

It's lower, imagine how much fast casting that lvl30 mesmer boss has

Eragon Zarroc · Apr 14, 2009, 02:00 PM // 14:00

they can just predict the future of what skills ur gonna use, better watch out ;-)

Covah · Apr 14, 2009, 02:15 PM // 14:15

NPCs also don't have any ping or a brain so they don't have to time anything. The code tells them they have a skill that can interupt so they use it.

Skyy High · Apr 14, 2009, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Catchphrase

So 1/4s skill become 1/8s? Dang, and I thought the lowest activation time is capped at 1/4s... -____-

Using a few particular skills, and getting boosts from 20/20 focuses and offhands, it's possible for human mesmers to cast 1/4 cast spells so fast that they cast at stance speed.

TheDragonmaster · Apr 14, 2009, 03:17 PM // 15:17

Stances activate the next time period after the server recieves the activation command, so it probs won't go as fast as that...

Snow Bunny · Apr 14, 2009, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Fast casting+connected to the game = faster than 1/4 cast ints.

TheodenKing · Apr 14, 2009, 04:27 PM // 16:27

1) Bosses in HM have a casting reduction time.
2) PvE enemies don't suffer from lag.
3) Some interupts are of the "next time foe uses a skill in the next 6 seconds" variety

The experienced player will anticipate the interupts, and give the foe something less important to waste the interupt on, then immediately follow with the skill he/she really wanted to use.

ac1inferno · Apr 14, 2009, 04:48 PM // 16:48

If you want fast, get a Mesmer with 16 Fast Casting. Then put [[Healer's Boon] and [[Vigorous Spirit] on your bar. Cast HB, type /dance, and cast VS and you will see it does not stop the dance emote.

Omg! You reached stance activation time! lol

refer · Apr 14, 2009, 07:24 PM // 19:24

I can interrupt seeminly 0 sec activation skills in PvE so it must be natural for the AI too. I don't know what it is but it's very easy to predict when the AI will do something before the moment it happens and just click out of the blue and stop something, even though you never know what it was. I know it's a bad habit to get into but I've activated Cry of Pain so many times when there was no skills being used yet the numbers still appeared even though nothing showed interruption. I still swear the AI has some kind of invented lag too.

October Jade · Apr 15, 2009, 02:23 AM // 02:23

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Originally Posted by refer

I know it's a bad habit to get into but I've activated Cry of Pain so many times when there was no skills being used yet the numbers still appeared even though nothing showed interruption.

CoP deals damage if the enemy is hexed, not if you nail an interruption. If you are casting it and don't deal damage, you are completely misusing the skill.

Apr 14, 2009, 12:54 PM // 12:54	#1
Catchphrase Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2009	1/4 Cast Intrrupts 1/4 Spells??? Can anybody please explain to me how the mobs in HM (especially mesmer bosses) have the uncanny ability to interrupt 1/4 cast spells? Does the rule of "lowest reduction of casting time to 1s" don't apply to them? Not that I have problems with it but I find this rather peculiar as I fought the mursaat mesmer boss in HM Ring of Fire mission and it can consistently Power Leak my Attacker's Insight. And I don't think its sheer luck at all.

Apr 14, 2009, 12:59 PM // 12:59	#2
Slabby Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belgium Guild: [SCAR]	HM gives foes speed advantages : Speed: Monsters' attack speed, movement speed, skill casting speed, and skill recharge rate are all increased to be 33-50% faster than normal. This should explain a lot.

Apr 14, 2009, 01:04 PM // 13:04	#3
fb2000 Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	Yep, increased speed does work on every skill - attack skills benefit from attack speed increase, making it possible for a 1/4 activation skill interrupt a 1/4 sec spell. Same with interruption spells

Apr 14, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05	#4
Xenomortis Tea Powered Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Profession: N/	Do mesmer enemies have ranks in Fast Casting? I havn't really payed much attention to that. Also, casting time of enemies in HM is almost always reduced.

Apr 14, 2009, 01:15 PM // 13:15	#5
Catchphrase Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2009	So 1/4s skill become 1/8s? Dang, and I thought the lowest activation time is capped at 1/4s... -____-

Apr 14, 2009, 02:00 PM // 14:00	#7
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	they can just predict the future of what skills ur gonna use, better watch out ;-)

Apr 14, 2009, 02:15 PM // 14:15	#8
Covah Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ] Profession: Me/Rt	NPCs also don't have any ping or a brain so they don't have to time anything. The code tells them they have a skill that can interupt so they use it.

Apr 14, 2009, 03:17 PM // 15:17	#10
TheDragonmaster Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2008 Profession: R/	Stances activate the next time period after the server recieves the activation command, so it probs won't go as fast as that...

Apr 14, 2009, 03:19 PM // 15:19	#11
Snow Bunny Alcoholic From Yale Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]	Fast casting+connected to the game = faster than 1/4 cast ints.

Apr 14, 2009, 04:27 PM // 16:27	#12
TheodenKing Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: DoA Guild: Dark Order of Retarded Knights (doRk) Profession: N/Me	1) Bosses in HM have a casting reduction time. 2) PvE enemies don't suffer from lag. 3) Some interupts are of the "next time foe uses a skill in the next 6 seconds" variety The experienced player will anticipate the interupts, and give the foe something less important to waste the interupt on, then immediately follow with the skill he/she really wanted to use.

Apr 14, 2009, 04:48 PM // 16:48	#13
ac1inferno Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston Guild: We D Shot Your Stances [GODS] Profession: A/W	If you want fast, get a Mesmer with 16 Fast Casting. Then put [[Healer's Boon] and [[Vigorous Spirit] on your bar. Cast HB, type /dance, and cast VS and you will see it does not stop the dance emote. Omg! You reached stance activation time! lol

Apr 14, 2009, 07:24 PM // 19:24	#14
refer Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: US	I can interrupt seeminly 0 sec activation skills in PvE so it must be natural for the AI too. I don't know what it is but it's very easy to predict when the AI will do something before the moment it happens and just click out of the blue and stop something, even though you never know what it was. I know it's a bad habit to get into but I've activated Cry of Pain so many times when there was no skills being used yet the numbers still appeared even though nothing showed interruption. I still swear the AI has some kind of invented lag too.