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HuntMaster Avatar · Jun 10, 2009, 06:06 PM // 18:06

I have completed prophecies, factions and nightfall. I got all the books except the NM nightfall book. I just learned about and got them today. For some reason the npc does not give me the option to get the NM version of the nightfall book. Why and is there a way I can get the NM version of the book?

I have both flameseeker books, both faction books, heroes of tyria and the NM books for eotn. Just incase that may play a role in my problem. I have tried putting the books in storage, but that just allows me to get more copies of the same book.

I am afraid that because I already finished NF in NM that I can no longer get the book, but it makes no sense that I could get the NM versions of factions and prophecies but not nightfall considering I have finished them all.

I never got those books before, and never completed them. Is this a glitch? Should I contact the game provider so they might possibly allow me to gain this version of the book? I'd really like to have all the books and it would be a real shame if I am unable to aquire the NM version of the nightfall book.

Semi related additional questions.

Once a book has been filled out completely, after turning it in, can I gain another empty book?

When a fully completed book is turned in, what is the reward?

Thank you very much for any and all replies.

Dont Nerf The Perma · Jun 10, 2009, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Ok once you've completed and turned in a book you may get another copy. The reward for turning in books is, gold, exp, faction, and/or title points. If you complete a mission in say eotn and then went and got a book the npc would not give you the option of paying to get it put in. You'd have to get the book then complete the mission to have the option of getting it put in.

As for you're problem with the NF book idk.

You may be trying to get it from the wrong npc. I beleive you get NF books from a secrets guy in chantry of secrets.

trickfred · Jun 10, 2009, 07:30 PM // 19:30

In EotN, you can't hand in NM books to a certain group (Norn, Rats, Ebon Vanguard, Dwarves) once you hit level 8 in their rep title, and AFAIK, you can't even get a new NM book if you're past level 8 in all 4 titles. I'd imagine, like in EotN, once you've hit a certain level in both LB and SS titles, you can't get a new NM book on that character.

Wiki confirms I was right:

Acquisition

* Nightfall
o Sunspear Great Hall
+ Captain Ahkenchu [Sunspear Signalman]

You can acquire and turn in a Normal Mode book from Captain Ahkenchu only if your Sunspear rank is below Sunspear Castellan (8).

o Chantry of Secrets
+ Source of Whispers [Lightbringer Scrivener]

You can acquire and turn in a Normal Mode book from Source of Whispers only if your Lightbringer rank is below Conquering Lightbringer (5).

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Night_Falls

Next time, try reading the wiki before posting a question.

HuntMaster Avatar · Jun 10, 2009, 09:40 PM // 21:40

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Originally Posted by Dont Nerf The Perma

Ok once you've completed and turned in a book you may get another copy. The reward for turning in books is, gold, exp, faction, and/or title points. If you complete a mission in say eotn and then went and got a book the npc would not give you the option of paying to get it put in. You'd have to get the book then complete the mission to have the option of getting it put in.

As for you're problem with the NF book idk.

You may be trying to get it from the wrong npc. I beleive you get NF books from a secrets guy in chantry of secrets.

Thanks very much, So I guess the best option is to get multipul copies of the same book and just keep repeating the same mission until they are all filled, then turn them in, one after another. (if that even works) As for the npc, I'v talked to the ones in sunspear hall and Chantry of secrets. I check around before I ask for help. Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by trickfred

In EotN, you can't hand in NM books to a certain group (Norn, Rats, Ebon Vanguard, Dwarves) once you hit level 8 in their rep title, and AFAIK, you can't even get a new NM book if you're past level 8 in all 4 titles. I'd imagine, like in EotN, once you've hit a certain level in both LB and SS titles, you can't get a new NM book on that character.

Wiki confirms I was right:

Acquisition

* Nightfall
o Sunspear Great Hall
+ Captain Ahkenchu [Sunspear Signalman]

You can acquire and turn in a Normal Mode book from Captain Ahkenchu only if your Sunspear rank is below Sunspear Castellan (8).

o Chantry of Secrets
+ Source of Whispers [Lightbringer Scrivener]

You can acquire and turn in a Normal Mode book from Source of Whispers only if your Lightbringer rank is below Conquering Lightbringer (5).

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Night_Falls

Next time, try reading the wiki before posting a question.

Ah, that explains it! I'v maxed out both ss and lb titles. Oh well. Also I did look through the wiki but couldnt find the answer to my question. Next time, try not assuming something before posting a reply.

Thanks for the replies!

LicensedLuny · Jun 10, 2009, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Ok, so it looks like other folks explained about why you can't get the NM Nightfall books anymore.

As for your other questions ...
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Storybook
I usually go there whenever I, myself, have book questions. I've found the linked articles quite helpful.

You can get one book, fill it in, turn it in, then get another book and repeat. You can get multiple copies of the same book by asking for a book, putting it in storage, then asking for another book. Say you have three HM NF books in inventory and you do the Crossroads mission in HM. That'll give you credit in the first book in storage. If your plan is to fill out multiple books, be careful to move another book in front before you repeat the mission or the credit will be lost. (The game updates the first book it finds in storage, whether or not that book still needed the entry.)

If you do a mission without a book in your inventory, you should be able to speak to one of the book NPCs in that campaign and pay 100g to get the credit added to a book. This doesn't work for missions you did before Nov 2008, when they updated the game to include these books.

If you look at the links for each specific book off the page I gave you, there are nice tables listing the rewards for each different kind. At the top of the page, there's usually a listing of each entry for the book. Under that is a Content box for the article - there's a link in the content box to the section on rewards. That's the section you want.

It's certainly up to you what you collect, but I don't think there's any reason to keep copies of all the books around just to have. The books are a way to get a nice chunk of gold, xp, and title points for a character that finishes all the missions. Once you've maxed your titles and have more skill points than you need, the only real reward is the gold. At that point, it's a question of do you find the effort to gold reward ratio of filling in those books worth it. They are a nice way to max the rep titles. My main character has maxed all the NF and EotN rep titles, so I just carry a Young Heroes and a HM Factions book - both of which can be turned in for Luxon or Kurzick title points.

Hope it helps,
Luny

Sookie · Jun 10, 2009, 10:17 PM // 22:17

If your Sunspear and/or Lightbringer rank is too high (8/5) you will not be given a NM Nightfall book.

nbajammer · Jun 10, 2009, 11:56 PM // 23:56

And if you have books not turned in once you hit those ranks, you'll be unable to turn them in.

HuntMaster Avatar · Jun 11, 2009, 09:19 AM // 09:19

Thanks for the additional info, folks! Very helpful! I originally wanted to have 1 to turn in and 1 to keep forever, as I have a stupid interest in collecting crap for no reason. You should see my special event/festival item collection.

Two final questions, I'm gonna crash out and will read this when I wake up and I'll check wiki later if I don't get any replies.

1. Are Normal mode and Hard mode versions of the book the same? In other words, do they fill out and have the same info? If so then I can just keep a completed HM version of each book and not worry about the NM versions.
(for my collection of useless crap that eats up storage space

)

2. Does there come a time when you can no longer get HM versions of the books? A specific Rank? I'm guessing no, and you can just keep doing the HM books over and over again, But I could be wrong.

Thanks for any and all replies.

Arduin · Jun 11, 2009, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar

1. Are Normal mode and Hard mode versions of the book the same? In other words, do they fill out and have the same info? If so then I can just keep a completed HM version of each book and not worry about the NM versions.
(for my collection of useless crap that eats up storage space

)

They are indeed exactly the same. Same pictures, same stories. The only difference is the golden lining on the cover of the HM book, to distinguish it from the silver NM one.

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Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar

2. Does there come a time when you can no longer get HM versions of the books? A specific Rank? I'm guessing no, and you can just keep doing the HM books over and over again, But I could be wrong.

You are right. You can keep getting and doing HM books over and over. Though I don't know if you can get the reward if you maxed that particular title, but I'd say you can.

HuntMaster Avatar · Jun 11, 2009, 10:02 AM // 10:02

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

They are indeed exactly the same. Same pictures, same stories. The only difference is the golden lining on the cover of the HM book, to distinguish it from the silver NM one.

You are right. You can keep getting and doing HM books over and over. Though I don't know if you can get the reward if you maxed that particular title, but I'd say you can.

Thank you very much, I really appreciate the reply. Now I can get the NM versions out of the way and cruise on the HM versions without a worry.

I don't usually grind title points, I only did that for LB so I could deal with the margs and demons easier.

Arduin · Jun 11, 2009, 11:00 AM // 11:00

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Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar

Thank you very much, I really appreciate the reply. Now I can get the NM versions out of the way and cruise on the HM versions without a worry.

I don't usually grind title points, I only did that for LB so I could deal with the margs and demons easier.

I'd suggest first getting the Legendary Master of the North title, if you are planning to max the 4 Reputation tracks.

This includes doing all Missions on NM and HM, all Dungeons on NM and HM, carthographing EotN and vanquishing every area in EotN. Especially vanquishing gives you a lot of points on HM.

That way, your tracks get a nice boost already, saves you some of the 'grinding' for books.

Jun 10, 2009, 06:06 PM // 18:06	#1
HuntMaster Avatar Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Around Guild: Pillar's of Earth [ROCK] Profession: W/	Can't get NM nightfall Book? I have completed prophecies, factions and nightfall. I got all the books except the NM nightfall book. I just learned about and got them today. For some reason the npc does not give me the option to get the NM version of the nightfall book. Why and is there a way I can get the NM version of the book? I have both flameseeker books, both faction books, heroes of tyria and the NM books for eotn. Just incase that may play a role in my problem. I have tried putting the books in storage, but that just allows me to get more copies of the same book. I am afraid that because I already finished NF in NM that I can no longer get the book, but it makes no sense that I could get the NM versions of factions and prophecies but not nightfall considering I have finished them all. I never got those books before, and never completed them. Is this a glitch? Should I contact the game provider so they might possibly allow me to gain this version of the book? I'd really like to have all the books and it would be a real shame if I am unable to aquire the NM version of the nightfall book. Semi related additional questions. Once a book has been filled out completely, after turning it in, can I gain another empty book? When a fully completed book is turned in, what is the reward? Thank you very much for any and all replies.

Jun 11, 2009, 09:19 AM // 09:19	#8
HuntMaster Avatar Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Around Guild: Pillar's of Earth [ROCK] Profession: W/	Thanks for the additional info, folks! Very helpful! I originally wanted to have 1 to turn in and 1 to keep forever, as I have a stupid interest in collecting crap for no reason. You should see my special event/festival item collection. Two final questions, I'm gonna crash out and will read this when I wake up and I'll check wiki later if I don't get any replies. 1. Are Normal mode and Hard mode versions of the book the same? In other words, do they fill out and have the same info? If so then I can just keep a completed HM version of each book and not worry about the NM versions. (for my collection of useless crap that eats up storage space) 2. Does there come a time when you can no longer get HM versions of the books? A specific Rank? I'm guessing no, and you can just keep doing the HM books over and over again, But I could be wrong. Thanks for any and all replies.

Jun 10, 2009, 07:17 PM // 19:17	#2
Dont Nerf The Perma Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2009 Profession: A/D	Ok once you've completed and turned in a book you may get another copy. The reward for turning in books is, gold, exp, faction, and/or title points. If you complete a mission in say eotn and then went and got a book the npc would not give you the option of paying to get it put in. You'd have to get the book then complete the mission to have the option of getting it put in. As for you're problem with the NF book idk. You may be trying to get it from the wrong npc. I beleive you get NF books from a secrets guy in chantry of secrets.

Jun 10, 2009, 07:30 PM // 19:30	#3
trickfred Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canadia Guild: It's A Trick Get An [Axe]	In EotN, you can't hand in NM books to a certain group (Norn, Rats, Ebon Vanguard, Dwarves) once you hit level 8 in their rep title, and AFAIK, you can't even get a new NM book if you're past level 8 in all 4 titles. I'd imagine, like in EotN, once you've hit a certain level in both LB and SS titles, you can't get a new NM book on that character. Wiki confirms I was right: Acquisition * Nightfall o Sunspear Great Hall + Captain Ahkenchu [Sunspear Signalman] You can acquire and turn in a Normal Mode book from Captain Ahkenchu only if your Sunspear rank is below Sunspear Castellan (8). o Chantry of Secrets + Source of Whispers [Lightbringer Scrivener] You can acquire and turn in a Normal Mode book from Source of Whispers only if your Lightbringer rank is below Conquering Lightbringer (5). http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Night_Falls Next time, try reading the wiki before posting a question.

Jun 10, 2009, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#5
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	Ok, so it looks like other folks explained about why you can't get the NM Nightfall books anymore. As for your other questions ... http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Storybook I usually go there whenever I, myself, have book questions. I've found the linked articles quite helpful. You can get one book, fill it in, turn it in, then get another book and repeat. You can get multiple copies of the same book by asking for a book, putting it in storage, then asking for another book. Say you have three HM NF books in inventory and you do the Crossroads mission in HM. That'll give you credit in the first book in storage. If your plan is to fill out multiple books, be careful to move another book in front before you repeat the mission or the credit will be lost. (The game updates the first book it finds in storage, whether or not that book still needed the entry.) If you do a mission without a book in your inventory, you should be able to speak to one of the book NPCs in that campaign and pay 100g to get the credit added to a book. This doesn't work for missions you did before Nov 2008, when they updated the game to include these books. If you look at the links for each specific book off the page I gave you, there are nice tables listing the rewards for each different kind. At the top of the page, there's usually a listing of each entry for the book. Under that is a Content box for the article - there's a link in the content box to the section on rewards. That's the section you want. It's certainly up to you what you collect, but I don't think there's any reason to keep copies of all the books around just to have. The books are a way to get a nice chunk of gold, xp, and title points for a character that finishes all the missions. Once you've maxed your titles and have more skill points than you need, the only real reward is the gold. At that point, it's a question of do you find the effort to gold reward ratio of filling in those books worth it. They are a nice way to max the rep titles. My main character has maxed all the NF and EotN rep titles, so I just carry a Young Heroes and a HM Factions book - both of which can be turned in for Luxon or Kurzick title points. Hope it helps, Luny

Jun 10, 2009, 10:17 PM // 22:17	#6
Sookie Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NoCenTex Guild: [AKA] Guild Leader Profession: R/	If your Sunspear and/or Lightbringer rank is too high (8/5) you will not be given a NM Nightfall book.

Jun 10, 2009, 11:56 PM // 23:56	#7
nbajammer Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa Guild: Blade And Rose [BaR] Profession: Mo/	And if you have books not turned in once you hit those ranks, you'll be unable to turn them in.