About the Vaettir Nerf - Guild Wars Forums

SpiritBond · Jun 15, 2009, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Hey, i was wondering what did they nerf at vaettir keg farming?

Sry if this isn't right place to post.

Enon · Jun 15, 2009, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by Update - Thursday, June 11, 2009

Budger Blackpowder will now wait a few seconds between dispensing Powder Kegs in Explorable Areas.

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That should cover it :-)

Random Scrubinator · Jun 15, 2009, 05:48 PM // 17:48

appropriate username, lol

Eragon Zarroc · Jun 15, 2009, 06:47 PM // 18:47

u can still farm em on an ele without kegs =D a little bit slower though ;-)

Dorny · Jun 15, 2009, 07:38 PM // 19:38

^ was going to say. Surely it's still very feasible. Maybe much slower, but would the number of golds still be worth it?

Icy The Mage · Jun 15, 2009, 08:00 PM // 20:00

I'd say it's on average about 2 golds a run, so if you're selling them as unids (7/4.5k) then you'd make a decent amount of money =)

HawkofStorms · Jun 15, 2009, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Well its all about speed. Time spent vs money earned. Now it isn't worth the time compared to other farms (like raptor farming).

aoeclald · Jun 15, 2009, 10:04 PM // 22:04

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

u can still farm em on an ele without kegs =D a little bit slower though ;-)

Technically, not really. The run getting to the vaettirs takes quite a bit of time in which it only takes the ele a 3 minute run from Longeye's allowing them to go reach their and eliminate a lot of the time that the perma had to run there originally.

Also, as mentioned, kegs now have a timer in between each drop so you can't drop as many as you want as fast as you can.

Spiritz · Jun 15, 2009, 11:37 PM // 23:37

Also vaetires sadly have high ar vs ele dmg so sliver sins and eles have a hard time with them.Its something anet shud fix as i reckon out of all gw foes they are most imba armor wise but i believe you can still burn them to death faster than sliver can kill them all.

aoeclald - i think eragon was refering to them being slivered by ele rather than keg - nothing used to be faster than kegging an now its just a lot slower on any profession.

Loki Seiguro · Jun 15, 2009, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Spiritz when eles farm them they don't use SA they use Crystal Wave and Tenai's Crystal. So its aoe dmg. Also I think it is "foe takes dmg" so not elemental (I might be way wrong about this)

Helix Dreadlock · Jun 16, 2009, 12:13 AM // 00:13

They made it so you cant spam kegs

HawkofStorms · Jun 16, 2009, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Wait... Spitiz so... you are saying something is imbalanced because 1 player has a slow time killing over 50 monsters at once. Not that he can't, but that it is too slow, and therefore it is the MONSTERS that are overpowered.

Trinity Fire Angel · Jun 16, 2009, 03:01 AM // 03:01

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

Spiritz when eles farm them they don't use SA they use Crystal Wave and Tenai's Crystal. So its aoe dmg. Also I think it is "foe takes dmg" so not elemental (I might be way wrong about this)

yeah, these two are armour ignoring

KrisNaga · Jun 16, 2009, 01:41 PM // 13:41

It's official, Anet are stupid. I will no longer play this game because Anet keep messing it up with stupid nerfs, I was thinking about getting GW2 but there's no way in hell I'm doing that now. I hope Anet go bankrupted for what they have done to this game.
They don't give a damn about the players, all they care about is getting money and making what was once a great game into a lame game.

Oogball · Jun 16, 2009, 01:49 PM // 13:49

That is not true.
Anet does care bout us, because without us they wouldn't make money. But anyways, they do this because else you would get too easy money and the whole economy of GW would fail. Goldies are already much less than before, ppl sell them 3k each sometimes.
Hopefully this nerf will restore that

karimoftos · Jun 17, 2009, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Kris Naga i dont know what ur talking about but its absolute bs. If they ddnt care about us they would not nerf anything. The fact that they nerf things knowing that some players are gonna leave is because they know it will save the game in the long run and make it more enjoyable for the dedicated players. Fact is as much as it was fun and rewarding keg farming was causing unids to lose their value very fast (thus ruining economy and value of gold items) and holiday items were being farmed very quickly making titles less impressive for those who struggled to get it. A team of people who dont care wouldnt have even realised all this.

vamp08 · Jun 17, 2009, 12:16 AM // 00:16

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Originally Posted by KrisNaga

It's official, Anet are stupid. I will no longer play this game because Anet keep messing it up with stupid nerfs, I was thinking about getting GW2 but there's no way in hell I'm doing that now. I hope Anet go bankrupted for what they have done to this game.
They don't give a damn about the players, all they care about is getting money and making what was once a great game into a lame game.

Your lucky Anet doesnt nerf Perma sins all together; which I might add is WELL overdue. SF is a cheat and an Op skill, PERIOD.

Frankly, im happy keg farming got nerfed, stick it to all you sins who are lost in your meaning to GW.

KrisNaga · Jun 17, 2009, 01:29 AM // 01:29

It took me a long time to get that damn keg farming build and now it's worthless, they add everlasting items that are more than 50 ecto's each, you think I'm going to get money the fair way? Hell no, I played this game for years and it was great at the start but it has been nerfed over and over again, greens are now worthless, the people who play are jackasses , the guilds suck, even after the 4th year update they try and milk money from the players which they promised they would never do.

People scam like crazy on this, people falsely report, people get banned for no reason, there's so many reasons why this game has turned bad and it's no surprise to see kaineng deserted now.
People have lost interest, the builds they have spent years working on are now worthless, no doubt the raptor build will be nerfed soon, then they will delete perma sin making sins useless.

Well I say no, you mess with my character and my game and you lose my respect and I say no to GW2, my money and my time is going towards something worthwhile, something that doesn't involve me looking at this damn screen, I have a life and I won't allow the corrupt Anet to steal any more of my time.

Boneyard Spleeneater · Jun 18, 2009, 10:09 PM // 22:09

I think that boycotting GW2 is a little much.

That being said, I came up with a nice Perma build for my Mes that allowed me to farm holiday items. Some of us have things like jobs, girlfriends, and... lives.

I have already resigned myself to not maxing titles on all my toons. I am not asking to make the titles easier. All I expect is for Anet to just let some of this stuff slide. If the economy slides, so be it.

People can quit selling that stuff, and just use it. What a novel concept, eh?

aoeclald · Jun 18, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40

In my alliance, I heard the "Woot, in 40 minutes - 1 hour, I vanqed Drakkar Lake by myself kegging."

Drakkar Lake isn't the only area kegging was capable of farming, however since I'm not big on doing perma, I don't know the whole list. But there are quite a few. Also, the time I listed is what a normal sab/discord/balanceway team should finish a vanq, how in the hell is it plausible that one person is soloing it in the same amount of time?

I think this is the reason it was nerfed, not because of the vaettir farming for event items. If this was the case, they would nerf the ele bar of the same capability.

Jun 15, 2009, 05:33 PM // 17:33	#1
SpiritBond Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Domain of Anguish Profession: Mo/	About the Vaettir Nerf Hey, i was wondering what did they nerf at vaettir keg farming? Sry if this isn't right place to post.

Jun 15, 2009, 05:48 PM // 17:48	#3
Random Scrubinator Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006	appropriate username, lol

Jun 15, 2009, 06:47 PM // 18:47	#4
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	u can still farm em on an ele without kegs =D a little bit slower though ;-)

Jun 15, 2009, 07:38 PM // 19:38	#5
Dorny Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Switzerland Guild: Dragons of Shadows [DOS] Profession: N/E	^ was going to say. Surely it's still very feasible. Maybe much slower, but would the number of golds still be worth it?

Jun 15, 2009, 08:00 PM // 20:00	#6
Icy The Mage Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Profession: E/	I'd say it's on average about 2 golds a run, so if you're selling them as unids (7/4.5k) then you'd make a decent amount of money =)

Jun 15, 2009, 09:34 PM // 21:34	#7
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Well its all about speed. Time spent vs money earned. Now it isn't worth the time compared to other farms (like raptor farming).

Jun 15, 2009, 11:37 PM // 23:37	#9
Spiritz Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: DMFC	Also vaetires sadly have high ar vs ele dmg so sliver sins and eles have a hard time with them.Its something anet shud fix as i reckon out of all gw foes they are most imba armor wise but i believe you can still burn them to death faster than sliver can kill them all. aoeclald - i think eragon was refering to them being slivered by ele rather than keg - nothing used to be faster than kegging an now its just a lot slower on any profession.

Jun 15, 2009, 11:57 PM // 23:57	#10
Loki Seiguro Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: IGN: Scarlet Test Ace Guild: We play Isketch in [HoH] Profession: E/	Spiritz when eles farm them they don't use SA they use Crystal Wave and Tenai's Crystal. So its aoe dmg. Also I think it is "foe takes dmg" so not elemental (I might be way wrong about this)

Jun 16, 2009, 12:13 AM // 00:13	#11
Helix Dreadlock Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Imperial Sanctum Guild: Legendary Drunken Masters [DUI] Profession: E/Me	They made it so you cant spam kegs

Jun 16, 2009, 02:26 AM // 02:26	#12
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Wait... Spitiz so... you are saying something is imbalanced because 1 player has a slow time killing over 50 monsters at once. Not that he can't, but that it is too slow, and therefore it is the MONSTERS that are overpowered.

Jun 16, 2009, 01:41 PM // 13:41	#14
KrisNaga Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2009	It's official, Anet are stupid. I will no longer play this game because Anet keep messing it up with stupid nerfs, I was thinking about getting GW2 but there's no way in hell I'm doing that now. I hope Anet go bankrupted for what they have done to this game. They don't give a damn about the players, all they care about is getting money and making what was once a great game into a lame game.

Jun 16, 2009, 01:49 PM // 13:49	#15
Oogball Academy Page Join Date: May 2009 Profession: E/	That is not true. Anet does care bout us, because without us they wouldn't make money. But anyways, they do this because else you would get too easy money and the whole economy of GW would fail. Goldies are already much less than before, ppl sell them 3k each sometimes. Hopefully this nerf will restore that

Jun 17, 2009, 12:06 AM // 00:06	#16
karimoftos Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Red Star Operatives Profession: W/R	Kris Naga i dont know what ur talking about but its absolute bs. If they ddnt care about us they would not nerf anything. The fact that they nerf things knowing that some players are gonna leave is because they know it will save the game in the long run and make it more enjoyable for the dedicated players. Fact is as much as it was fun and rewarding keg farming was causing unids to lose their value very fast (thus ruining economy and value of gold items) and holiday items were being farmed very quickly making titles less impressive for those who struggled to get it. A team of people who dont care wouldnt have even realised all this.

Jun 17, 2009, 01:29 AM // 01:29	#18
KrisNaga Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2009	It took me a long time to get that damn keg farming build and now it's worthless, they add everlasting items that are more than 50 ecto's each, you think I'm going to get money the fair way? Hell no, I played this game for years and it was great at the start but it has been nerfed over and over again, greens are now worthless, the people who play are jackasses , the guilds suck, even after the 4th year update they try and milk money from the players which they promised they would never do. People scam like crazy on this, people falsely report, people get banned for no reason, there's so many reasons why this game has turned bad and it's no surprise to see kaineng deserted now. People have lost interest, the builds they have spent years working on are now worthless, no doubt the raptor build will be nerfed soon, then they will delete perma sin making sins useless. Well I say no, you mess with my character and my game and you lose my respect and I say no to GW2, my money and my time is going towards something worthwhile, something that doesn't involve me looking at this damn screen, I have a life and I won't allow the corrupt Anet to steal any more of my time.

Jun 18, 2009, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#19
Boneyard Spleeneater Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Guild: Immortal Corruptors [GWAR] Profession: Me/N	I think that boycotting GW2 is a little much. That being said, I came up with a nice Perma build for my Mes that allowed me to farm holiday items. Some of us have things like jobs, girlfriends, and... lives. I have already resigned myself to not maxing titles on all my toons. I am not asking to make the titles easier. All I expect is for Anet to just let some of this stuff slide. If the economy slides, so be it. People can quit selling that stuff, and just use it. What a novel concept, eh?

Jun 18, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40	#20
aoeclald Academy Page Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: United States Guild: Pillars of the Earth [ROCK] Profession: E/	In my alliance, I heard the "Woot, in 40 minutes - 1 hour, I vanqed Drakkar Lake by myself kegging." Drakkar Lake isn't the only area kegging was capable of farming, however since I'm not big on doing perma, I don't know the whole list. But there are quite a few. Also, the time I listed is what a normal sab/discord/balanceway team should finish a vanq, how in the hell is it plausible that one person is soloing it in the same amount of time? I think this is the reason it was nerfed, not because of the vaettir farming for event items. If this was the case, they would nerf the ele bar of the same capability.