Accidental Trade - How to Report Someone? - Guild Wars Forums

blackstarling · Jul 13, 2009, 08:07 PM // 20:07

So there I was, registering for Guild Wars Guru... running Guild Wars in the background, smoking a cigarette and watching Big Cat Diary on Animal Planet. (Actually, I just put it on my so my cat has something to watch other than my monitor from my lap.)

I had posted a WTB in Lion's Arch for green dye. As I was fiddling around on this site I realized I hadn't checked to see if I had any offers... so I quickly clicked back to find that someone had already initated a trade with me. I quickly typed in 75, offer, and accept. If it wasn't for my text box... I might never have noticed...

I traded this guy 75 PLATINUM for 1 vial of green dye. (As opposed to 75 gold.) I asked him a couple of times to reverse the trade. He put me on ignore. I had others PM him, he ignored them. (Showing as offline) Finally he just went offline completely.

True effin story...

Is there ANYTHING I can do? (Other than submit a support ticket, I did that.) Can I expect that GW will help me get it back? What CAN I expect? Anything?

I just traded years worth of goods for this money - I wanted to upgrade my Guild, outfit my main character, etc...

oh man.......

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs47/f/20...ec86f2088c.jpg

Jenn · Jul 13, 2009, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Hate to say it, but you're out 75k. I know it sucks, but it's life. I'm sorry that some people in this game can be such malevolent, selfish and childish dickholes, but they exist and if anet dealt with those types of peoples, they'd need a whole department just for that.

I probably don't need to tell you this as you seem like a reasonable person, but don't let this event taint your perception. My advice to you is still always do to others as you would have them do to you. Should someone stumble by you and make the same mistake as you did, I hope that you will remember how awful you felt when this happened to you.

zelgadissan · Jul 13, 2009, 08:12 PM // 20:12

He didn't scam you. I really doubt /report will get you anywhere.

As for your questions-
Can I expect that GW will help me get it back? - no.
What CAN I expect? Anything? - no.

It sucks but I don't think you will get anything for this. If anything, use it as a lesson - dye is pretty cheap at a trader, and it's impossible to put in the wrong price with him.

Pinkest One · Jul 13, 2009, 08:14 PM // 20:14

Nope nothing you can do, its all on you to double check trades. Sorry

I remember when factions was new i got Wing's Axe and i was selling for 10k, guy comes up and trades 10g and i accept...three mins later i PM him congratulations.

blackstarling · Jul 13, 2009, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Heh... uuuugh.... wanna buy a green dye for 75k? Hell, I'll give you a 25k discount...?

Inde · Jul 13, 2009, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Sorry blackstarling. It's happened to the best of us in various games. I've deleted items before that were valuable, dropped stuff on the ground I didn't mean to, did bad trades... all part of gaming.

lilDeath · Jul 13, 2009, 08:20 PM // 20:20

Learn from the experience and move on.

Other than asking him for decency to prevail (and getting others to ask him) and to return the gold due to your mistake... since 75k is definitely not the going price for green dye, you have no recourse.

However way you play it, and whatever you were busy with at the time, albeit several things - pay attention when trading.

T3hD1sTuRb3D · Jul 13, 2009, 08:32 PM // 20:32

I remember one time when i was leveling in Pre-Searing, i found a black dye. I did the usual jumping around, acting all excited and what-not. I picked it up but i was low on inventory space. I quickly found a merchant and started selling things willy-nilly just to get some space. What I didn't realize, is that i sold my black dye as well for 1g.

The moral of this story- Make absolutely sure of what you're trading- whether you be buying or selling. Watch out for stupid mistakes like mine. You won't regret it.

Introverted Dimensions · Jul 13, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38

You're going to report someone for your screw up? Sounds like that guy deserves to be banned.

notskorn · Jul 13, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39

This was your fault. There's nothing to report.

Braxton619 · Jul 13, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Sorry there is nothing you can do. It is not scamming. One time I was selling 4 ecto for 20k and this guy gave me 40k instead for 4 ectos. Thats why now I ALWAYS deposit my gold into my chest. When I buy something, I will withdraw the ammount the guy is selling it for in my chest. That way I can make sure I don't give over the ammount it's worth.

I am sorry for what happened to you ,but it happens. Plus 75k is a very small amount of money. Just UWSC and you can get that much money back in a couple of hours, if not 1 hour.

-Braxton

Auron of Neon · Jul 13, 2009, 08:50 PM // 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by notskorn

This was your fault. There's nothing to report.

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xron · Jul 13, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51

I always keep all my moneyin the chest and only take out what I need.

This helps free up for trades and stops silly mistakes like this.

Daisuko · Jul 13, 2009, 08:53 PM // 20:53

pro tip : don't keep large sums of money on your person while trading if you can avoid it, just withdraw whatever sum you need from storage directly before trading

talon994 · Jul 13, 2009, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Wow that really sucks...but you were doing various tasks and messed up. Best to just move on

blackstarling · Jul 13, 2009, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by trx despair

You're going to report someone for your screw up? Sounds like that guy deserves to be banned.

Look, if you think I'm an idiot, say so. I think everyone on this thread including me will agree. Don't skirt the issue with sarcasm.

I don't think it's unacceptable to hope for common decency in gaming. It might be wishful thinking, and it might be a lost cause, but it's still my right to attempt to pursue amends.

I'm more than willing to discuss the topic of proper and improper expectations in gaming as well as practically anything else regarding what is and is not acceptable behavior - and all grey areas in between.

I'm not willing to humor someone who's main goal is to exacerbate the situation.

White_Chaos · Jul 13, 2009, 09:00 PM // 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by notskorn

This was your fault. There's nothing to report.

It is entirely your fault, you just had bad luck to run into a person who isn't fair.
You can't report him for that

blackstarling · Jul 13, 2009, 09:03 PM // 21:03

To all who suggested leaving money in the chest until trade... Great Idea! I'd have to count it out twice before being able to accept a trade. (Once into inventory and once into trade.) That should eliminate all negligible chance of mistakes... Thanks...

Useful suggestions instead of smart remarks=win

Zazy · Jul 13, 2009, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Double Check.

AmbientMelody · Jul 13, 2009, 09:18 PM // 21:18

No offense, but ... it's just and only your fault. You can't blame the man for not giving it back to you. 'Honesty' in trading doesn't exist, there is only an offer, deal and bargain scenario. There is no such a thing as 'scam' unless someone uses trade hack to force you to trade, but it isn't the case. If anything, I would hand you a 3 day ban for filling up a report on non-bannable offense and for sheer stupidity.

Jul 13, 2009, 08:07 PM // 20:07	#1
blackstarling Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2009 Profession: Rt/R	Accidental Trade - How to Report Someone? So there I was, registering for Guild Wars Guru... running Guild Wars in the background, smoking a cigarette and watching Big Cat Diary on Animal Planet. (Actually, I just put it on my so my cat has something to watch other than my monitor from my lap.) I had posted a WTB in Lion's Arch for green dye. As I was fiddling around on this site I realized I hadn't checked to see if I had any offers... so I quickly clicked back to find that someone had already initated a trade with me. I quickly typed in 75, offer, and accept. If it wasn't for my text box... I might never have noticed... I traded this guy 75 PLATINUM for 1 vial of green dye. (As opposed to 75 gold.) I asked him a couple of times to reverse the trade. He put me on ignore. I had others PM him, he ignored them. (Showing as offline) Finally he just went offline completely. True effin story... Is there ANYTHING I can do? (Other than submit a support ticket, I did that.) Can I expect that GW will help me get it back? What CAN I expect? Anything? I just traded years worth of goods for this money - I wanted to upgrade my Guild, outfit my main character, etc... oh man....... http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs47/f/20...ec86f2088c.jpg Last edited by blackstarling; Jul 13, 2009 at 09:45 PM // 21:45.. Reason: Adding Screenshot minus in game names

Jul 13, 2009, 08:11 PM // 20:11	#2
Jenn Resigned. Join Date: Sep 2006	Hate to say it, but you're out 75k. I know it sucks, but it's life. I'm sorry that some people in this game can be such malevolent, selfish and childish dickholes, but they exist and if anet dealt with those types of peoples, they'd need a whole department just for that. I probably don't need to tell you this as you seem like a reasonable person, but don't let this event taint your perception. My advice to you is still always do to others as you would have them do to you. Should someone stumble by you and make the same mistake as you did, I hope that you will remember how awful you felt when this happened to you. __________________ "Let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we???ll change the world." Jack Layton

Jul 13, 2009, 08:12 PM // 20:12	#3
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	He didn't scam you. I really doubt /report will get you anywhere. As for your questions- Can I expect that GW will help me get it back? - no. What CAN I expect? Anything? - no. It sucks but I don't think you will get anything for this. If anything, use it as a lesson - dye is pretty cheap at a trader, and it's impossible to put in the wrong price with him.

Jul 13, 2009, 08:14 PM // 20:14	#4
Pinkest One Lion's Arch Merchant --> Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ohio Guild: Amateur Pwnography [SeKz] Officer Profession: Mo/	Nope nothing you can do, its all on you to double check trades. Sorry I remember when factions was new i got Wing's Axe and i was selling for 10k, guy comes up and trades 10g and i accept...three mins later i PM him congratulations.

Jul 13, 2009, 08:16 PM // 20:16	#5
blackstarling Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2009 Profession: Rt/R	Heh... uuuugh.... wanna buy a green dye for 75k? Hell, I'll give you a 25k discount...?

Jul 13, 2009, 08:19 PM // 20:19	#6
Inde Site Contributor Join Date: Dec 2004	Sorry blackstarling. It's happened to the best of us in various games. I've deleted items before that were valuable, dropped stuff on the ground I didn't mean to, did bad trades... all part of gaming.

Jul 13, 2009, 08:20 PM // 20:20	#7
lilDeath Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Treehouse #1 Profession: W/	Learn from the experience and move on. Other than asking him for decency to prevail (and getting others to ask him) and to return the gold due to your mistake... since 75k is definitely not the going price for green dye, you have no recourse. However way you play it, and whatever you were busy with at the time, albeit several things - pay attention when trading.

Jul 13, 2009, 08:32 PM // 20:32	#8
T3hD1sTuRb3D Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In your attic. O.o Guild: Absence of Light [AoL] Profession: R/Me	I remember one time when i was leveling in Pre-Searing, i found a black dye. I did the usual jumping around, acting all excited and what-not. I picked it up but i was low on inventory space. I quickly found a merchant and started selling things willy-nilly just to get some space. What I didn't realize, is that i sold my black dye as well for 1g. The moral of this story- Make absolutely sure of what you're trading- whether you be buying or selling. Watch out for stupid mistakes like mine. You won't regret it.

Jul 13, 2009, 08:38 PM // 20:38	#9
Introverted Dimensions Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: R/	You're going to report someone for your screw up? Sounds like that guy deserves to be banned.

Jul 13, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39	#10
notskorn Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Clan Roxor Profession: W/E	This was your fault. There's nothing to report.

Jul 13, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#11
Braxton619 Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2008 Profession: A/W	Sorry there is nothing you can do. It is not scamming. One time I was selling 4 ecto for 20k and this guy gave me 40k instead for 4 ectos. Thats why now I ALWAYS deposit my gold into my chest. When I buy something, I will withdraw the ammount the guy is selling it for in my chest. That way I can make sure I don't give over the ammount it's worth. I am sorry for what happened to you ,but it happens. Plus 75k is a very small amount of money. Just UWSC and you can get that much money back in a couple of hours, if not 1 hour. -Braxton

Jul 13, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51	#13
xron Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denbigh, Wales Guild: Zero Zero Profession: R/	I always keep all my moneyin the chest and only take out what I need. This helps free up for trades and stops silly mistakes like this.

Jul 13, 2009, 08:53 PM // 20:53	#14
Daisuko Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: California Guild: [Vr] Profession: E/Me	pro tip : don't keep large sums of money on your person while trading if you can avoid it, just withdraw whatever sum you need from storage directly before trading

Jul 13, 2009, 08:54 PM // 20:54	#15
talon994 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario,Canada Guild: 聖光麒麟 Profession: W/	Wow that really sucks...but you were doing various tasks and messed up. Best to just move on

Jul 13, 2009, 09:03 PM // 21:03	#18
blackstarling Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2009 Profession: Rt/R	To all who suggested leaving money in the chest until trade... Great Idea! I'd have to count it out twice before being able to accept a trade. (Once into inventory and once into trade.) That should eliminate all negligible chance of mistakes... Thanks... Useful suggestions instead of smart remarks=win

Jul 13, 2009, 09:08 PM // 21:08	#19
Zazy Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2009 Guild: Hexually Transmitted Disease [HTD] Profession: A/	Double Check.

Jul 13, 2009, 09:18 PM // 21:18	#20
AmbientMelody Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Poland Guild: N/A	No offense, but ... it's just and only your fault. You can't blame the man for not giving it back to you. 'Honesty' in trading doesn't exist, there is only an offer, deal and bargain scenario. There is no such a thing as 'scam' unless someone uses trade hack to force you to trade, but it isn't the case. If anything, I would hand you a 3 day ban for filling up a report on non-bannable offense and for sheer stupidity.