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Sir Cusfreak · Nov 24, 2009, 06:26 PM // 18:26

eh, everybody says Hammers are so bad. In proph, at lvl 13, there's no reason not to use a hammer if thats what youre enjoying. Its kinda fun. Even my necro does that (I'll let you decide if I'm joking about that part).
Yes, the best part of Hammers are the many KD skills they get, and yes the sword or axe will get you a little better DPS, but not by much, and not enough to make the win/lose difference. Later, when you get in to the hard areas and elite areas, you may feel like every point counts, and want the most optimal of optimal builds, gear, etc. for now, just enjoy. Hit stuff with the hammer, its a good time.

subarucar · Nov 24, 2009, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by Sir Cusfreak

eh, everybody says Hammers are so bad. In proph, at lvl 13, there's no reason not to use a hammer if thats what youre enjoying. Its kinda fun. Even my necro does that (I'll let you decide if I'm joking about that part).
Yes, the best part of Hammers are the many KD skills they get, and yes the sword or axe will get you a little better DPS, but not by much, and not enough to make the win/lose difference. Later, when you get in to the hard areas and elite areas, you may feel like every point counts, and want the most optimal of optimal builds, gear, etc. for now, just enjoy. Hit stuff with the hammer, its a good time.

I agree strongly with this, try all the weapons, pick the one you enjoy the most and go with it. Hammers can become increadibly powerful later in the game with mass KD's from the Earthshacker, Crude Swing, Whirlwind Attack, For Great Justice combo.
Where you may not be able to out damage the healing from a strong group, with a hammer you can knock the healer(s) down, stopping them from doing anything, giving your party a good chance to kill them before they get back up and the healing starts again.

zelgadissan · Nov 24, 2009, 09:58 PM // 21:58

Here, since I'm the first one who said you'd be doing better with sword/axe than hammer at this point, I'll defend my point of view:

Hammer skills you can get at Yak's or before - Hammer Bash, Mighty Blow, Irresistable Blow
Sword skills - Sever Artery, Gash, Hamstring
Axe skills - Dismember, Disrupting Chop, Executioner's Strike, Penetrating Blow, Swift Chop, Cyclone Axe

Melee attacks usable by all three - Power Attack, Protector's Strike, Wild Blow

Hammer does not have a Deep Wound, which every beginning warrior should be learning to love. The reliable KD causes loss of adrenaline, which to us may not be a big deal, but to a beginning warrior could be an issue. Axes in particular have just about every non-elite skill you could ever want to use by the time you get to Yak's. Also, swords and axes can use shields to help keep you alive while you're learning.

All that said, I do agree with one thing being said: find something you like and use it, because if you're not having fun there's no point in playing, right?

Iuris · Nov 25, 2009, 12:30 PM // 12:30

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eh, everybody says Hammers are so bad. In proph, at lvl 13, there's no reason not to use a hammer if thats what youre enjoying. Its kinda fun. Even my necro does that (I'll let you decide if I'm joking about that part).
Yes, the best part of Hammers are the many KD skills they get, and yes the sword or axe will get you a little better DPS, but not by much, and not enough to make the win/lose difference. Later, when you get in to the hard areas and elite areas, you may feel like every point counts, and want the most optimal of optimal builds, gear, etc. for now, just enjoy. Hit stuff with the hammer, its a good time.

Hammers are not bad. But you don't have the SKILLS needed to make them work at the start of the game. That's all.

Xenex Xclame · Nov 25, 2009, 02:21 PM // 14:21

It sounds like you aren't taking the max ammount of people (human/npc) in your group.
I think i remember yakk has a 6 person group limit,so you should take 6 people.

Don't be afraid to take the max because you think that makes you less good,we all did it when we were new,once you get the hang of the game, and know what to expect you can go with fewer if that is your choice.

You war friend seems to just wanted to get you to the next town,but you seem to want to do the quest, which in my opinion is the way you should play it the first time thru.

If you need any help i'd be glad to help just add xenex xclame and/or ria bon alma (their two different accounts) and PM me if your stuck somewhere.

Nov 24, 2009, 09:58 PM // 21:58	#23
zelgadissan Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: The Warrior Priests [WP] Profession: Me/Rt	Here, since I'm the first one who said you'd be doing better with sword/axe than hammer at this point, I'll defend my point of view: Hammer skills you can get at Yak's or before - Hammer Bash, Mighty Blow, Irresistable Blow Sword skills - Sever Artery, Gash, Hamstring Axe skills - Dismember, Disrupting Chop, Executioner's Strike, Penetrating Blow, Swift Chop, Cyclone Axe Melee attacks usable by all three - Power Attack, Protector's Strike, Wild Blow Hammer does not have a Deep Wound, which every beginning warrior should be learning to love. The reliable KD causes loss of adrenaline, which to us may not be a big deal, but to a beginning warrior could be an issue. Axes in particular have just about every non-elite skill you could ever want to use by the time you get to Yak's. Also, swords and axes can use shields to help keep you alive while you're learning. All that said, I do agree with one thing being said: find something you like and use it, because if you're not having fun there's no point in playing, right? Last edited by zelgadissan; Nov 24, 2009 at 10:01 PM // 22:01..

Nov 24, 2009, 06:26 PM // 18:26	#21
Sir Cusfreak Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your backline Guild: No Tags [NONE]	eh, everybody says Hammers are so bad. In proph, at lvl 13, there's no reason not to use a hammer if thats what youre enjoying. Its kinda fun. Even my necro does that (I'll let you decide if I'm joking about that part). Yes, the best part of Hammers are the many KD skills they get, and yes the sword or axe will get you a little better DPS, but not by much, and not enough to make the win/lose difference. Later, when you get in to the hard areas and elite areas, you may feel like every point counts, and want the most optimal of optimal builds, gear, etc. for now, just enjoy. Hit stuff with the hammer, its a good time.

Nov 25, 2009, 02:21 PM // 14:21	#25
Xenex Xclame Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: DPX Profession: R/	It sounds like you aren't taking the max ammount of people (human/npc) in your group. I think i remember yakk has a 6 person group limit,so you should take 6 people. Don't be afraid to take the max because you think that makes you less good,we all did it when we were new,once you get the hang of the game, and know what to expect you can go with fewer if that is your choice. You war friend seems to just wanted to get you to the next town,but you seem to want to do the quest, which in my opinion is the way you should play it the first time thru. If you need any help i'd be glad to help just add xenex xclame and/or ria bon alma (their two different accounts) and PM me if your stuck somewhere.