Ratio of actual people playing to forum posters? - Guild Wars Forums

Rocky Raccoon · Apr 10, 2010, 12:10 AM // 00:10

Has anyone ever been able to correlate the amount of people playing,based upon how many people visit a forum related to said game?

byteme! · Apr 10, 2010, 12:30 AM // 00:30

No, it's impossible. These sort of questions can't be answered. Try again.

/thread

Rocky Raccoon · Apr 10, 2010, 12:33 AM // 00:33

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Originally Posted by byteme!

No, it's impossible. These sort of questions can't be answered. Try again.

/thread

I asked an honest question, that you can't answer, so that makes it a bad question?

byteme! · Apr 10, 2010, 12:36 AM // 00:36

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Originally Posted by Rocky Raccoon

I asked an honest question, that you can't answer, so that makes it a bad question?

Never said it was a bad question. You just can't expect a precise answer.

Only an admin would know how many people visit this forum. Even then they'd have to filter out all the multiple accounts, some of which could be bogus. Then we'd have to figure out how many people actually know about Guru. Some people don't even register accounts and only lurk in the forums. We'd also have to find out how many people are playing GW and exclude all duplicate accounts. We'd also have to figure out how many forum/in-game accounts are still active. The variables are endless. You can see why I think a question like yours is not worth asking.

Fate Crusher · Apr 10, 2010, 12:48 AM // 00:48

The only correlation can be made through the use of historical data of the frequency of registering members and posts, during the time when Anet were still churning out campaigns (since there were still things to discuss and discover), whilst being compared to the activity now when everything has been discovered in GW.

But that's just common sense.

It will never be accurate, registering to a forum/guru has never been a compulsory requirement and you can view threads without registering. That imo is the most important factor and why it will never be accurate.

MagmaRed · Apr 10, 2010, 12:54 AM // 00:54

Not to mention the number of Guru accounts made by people who don't play. The majority of the posts you see are made by people who play, or who did play. But there are the 'bots' and gold sellers, etc. that will make an account and post links to websites to sell things or hack people. Those accounts get banned pretty quick, but they exist. Same thing for GW accounts. People make them and never use them, get them perma banned, stolen, or lose their ability to connect. No way to even come close to knowing how many GW accounts exist, much less how many of those people use a specific forum. And there are many forums that are available, some for public use, some for guild/alliance, and some for $$. I myself use several forums, and only post on about 25% of those.

Kattar · Apr 10, 2010, 01:17 AM // 01:17

We can know how many people visit the site, but we can't really know how many actually play. Short of asking them all. Lol.

Bob Slydell · Apr 10, 2010, 03:09 AM // 03:09

On this forum? I'd give a rough estimate that 75% of the GURU population actually plays anymore. The 25% that dosen't are the unhappy ones who come here to bitch and moan about the game they no longer play, which is quite funny.

sigshane · Apr 10, 2010, 03:13 AM // 03:13

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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell

On this forum? I'd give a rough estimate that 75% of the GURU population actually plays anymore. The 25% that dosen't are the unhappy ones who come here to bitch and moan about the game they no longer play, which is quite funny.

And many more of those are WoW'ers who come over to nyaaah! at us

byteme! · Apr 10, 2010, 04:38 AM // 04:38

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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell

On this forum? I'd give a rough estimate that 75% of the GURU population actually plays anymore. The 25% that dosen't are the unhappy ones who come here to bitch and moan about the game they no longer play, which is quite funny.

95% of all statistics are made up. See what I just did? I just made that up. Easy.

Oleg · Apr 10, 2010, 04:58 AM // 04:58

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Originally Posted by Bob Slydell

On this forum? I'd give a rough estimate that 75% of the GURU population actually plays anymore. The 25% that dosen't are the unhappy ones who come here to bitch and moan about the game they no longer play, which is quite funny.

I didn't read the question as how many forum posters still play, but if the total number of players can be estimated by the number of people posting. The short answer would be no. You could take gross sales of the game and guestimate. Anet do have hours played stats that they aren't likely to release.

To answer your question, I don't think this forum is indicative of the number of players or the current attitudes. Sadly, this forum seems to be infected with disgruntled griefers. Which, as Bob pointed out, is likely the people who don't play but still moan for some unknowable reason. I'd say that people who don't post are unlikely to keep visiting the site.

I find this forum is still fairly PvP centric. I'm not saying the forum doesn't cater to PvE, just that most posters seem to be PvPers. I have no stats to back this up, but I'd say 3/4 of GW payers are PvEers.

colosusjokers · Apr 10, 2010, 05:31 AM // 05:31

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Originally Posted by NassauBob

And many more of those are WoW'ers who come over to nyaaah! at us

Which is all the funnier considering we overall are getting the better deal.

Angela Sitsonit · Apr 10, 2010, 07:31 AM // 07:31

Hmm lets get on the forum and ask a question that has no merit whatsoever and see howmany responses i get.

wow this is fun and i got some attention out of it too !

hmmm what will be my next question ?

Howlong is a piece of string ?
What happened to the first 6 ups ?
If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?
How do you think about nothing at all?

bedee bedee bedee, thats all folk's !

Deratrius · Apr 10, 2010, 08:06 AM // 08:06

If there is a poll system here you could just make a poll and it could give you an estimate.

I don't see that as a stupid question thats how they make all polls or medical studies or whatever. You don't need everyone to answer just a decent amount and then consider margin for error.

Really not that hard.

Some of the answers to this topic are funny, you say the question is worthless and answer with useless responses, way to look like an ass.

Quaker · Apr 10, 2010, 01:47 PM // 13:47

Don't forget to add in that there are other fan sites and other forums.

chessyang · Apr 10, 2010, 01:58 PM // 13:58

in short NO

but i'm sure the above average player will visit some forum and if not Guru then a fan-made-guild page or the PVX website..

IMO it's 5:1 or higher.

**Marty Silverblade** · Apr 10, 2010, 11:25 PM // 23:25

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Originally Posted by Deratrius

If there is a poll system here you could just make a poll and it could give you an estimate.

No it wouldn't. That would tell you the proportion of people on Guru who play to the people who don't. The question being asked is number of people on Guru to how many in total (not just on Guru) play GW itself. For a Guru poll to work, you'd need to get a good sample of people who actually play GW independently of Guru.

Apr 10, 2010, 12:10 AM // 00:10	#1
Rocky Raccoon Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Massachusetts, USA Guild: Guardians of the Cosmos Profession: R/Mo	Ratio of actual people playing to forum posters? Has anyone ever been able to correlate the amount of people playing,based upon how many people visit a forum related to said game?

Apr 10, 2010, 01:17 AM // 01:17	#7
Kattar EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: SMS (lolgw2placeholder) Profession: Me/	We can know how many people visit the site, but we can't really know how many actually play. Short of asking them all. Lol. __________________ All seems lost now, but still we must fight on.

Apr 10, 2010, 01:58 PM // 13:58	#16
chessyang Not far from Elite Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Florida Profession: W/	in short NO but i'm sure the above average player will visit some forum and if not Guru then a fan-made-guild page or the PVX website.. IMO it's 5:1 or higher. __________________ Let's use our Voices! The Chapter Selection Screen GW Wiki or Guru Thank You

Apr 10, 2010, 12:30 AM // 00:30	#2
byteme! Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On Earth Profession: W/P	No, it's impossible. These sort of questions can't be answered. Try again. /thread

Apr 10, 2010, 12:48 AM // 00:48	#5
Fate Crusher Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pie-land Guild: Warlords Of The Underworld [WoTU] Profession: Mo/	The only correlation can be made through the use of historical data of the frequency of registering members and posts, during the time when Anet were still churning out campaigns (since there were still things to discuss and discover), whilst being compared to the activity now when everything has been discovered in GW. But that's just common sense. It will never be accurate, registering to a forum/guru has never been a compulsory requirement and you can view threads without registering. That imo is the most important factor and why it will never be accurate.

Apr 10, 2010, 12:54 AM // 00:54	#6
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	Not to mention the number of Guru accounts made by people who don't play. The majority of the posts you see are made by people who play, or who did play. But there are the 'bots' and gold sellers, etc. that will make an account and post links to websites to sell things or hack people. Those accounts get banned pretty quick, but they exist. Same thing for GW accounts. People make them and never use them, get them perma banned, stolen, or lose their ability to connect. No way to even come close to knowing how many GW accounts exist, much less how many of those people use a specific forum. And there are many forums that are available, some for public use, some for guild/alliance, and some for $$. I myself use several forums, and only post on about 25% of those.

Apr 10, 2010, 03:09 AM // 03:09	#8
Bob Slydell Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2007	On this forum? I'd give a rough estimate that 75% of the GURU population actually plays anymore. The 25% that dosen't are the unhappy ones who come here to bitch and moan about the game they no longer play, which is quite funny.

Apr 10, 2010, 07:31 AM // 07:31	#13
Angela Sitsonit Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: the Netherlands Guild: [AARP] Profession: W/	Hmm lets get on the forum and ask a question that has no merit whatsoever and see howmany responses i get. wow this is fun and i got some attention out of it too ! hmmm what will be my next question ? Howlong is a piece of string ? What happened to the first 6 ups ? If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done? How do you think about nothing at all? bedee bedee bedee, thats all folk's !

Apr 10, 2010, 08:06 AM // 08:06	#14
Deratrius Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Europe Guild: Mystic Discipline [MD] Profession: Mo/	If there is a poll system here you could just make a poll and it could give you an estimate. I don't see that as a stupid question thats how they make all polls or medical studies or whatever. You don't need everyone to answer just a decent amount and then consider margin for error. Really not that hard. Some of the answers to this topic are funny, you say the question is worthless and answer with useless responses, way to look like an ass.

Apr 10, 2010, 01:47 PM // 13:47	#15
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	Don't forget to add in that there are other fan sites and other forums.