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majoho · Apr 13, 2010, 09:21 AM // 09:21

This is probably off-topic here but since there isn't much activity anymore I thought it might be ok to ask here, if not a mod can move it

Basically I haven't played for a while and checked what I missed doing and I have the quest "The Last Hierophant" and I'm looking for a good h/h setup for it, not hard mode just normal.

I'm not even sure if it's doable h/h since I tried a couple of times but didn't get far but maybe that's just because I'm rusty.

My character is a warrior and I've tried with me as "enduring axe", heroes as sabway and the henchies was earth, fire, interrupt and protector.

I think they problem is that my aoe damage is too low and maybe I should drop the MM for something else.

Any input is welcomed

Iuris · Apr 13, 2010, 10:35 AM // 10:35

Well, for starters, trouble is to be expected - The last Hierophant quest is actually the entry for the elite area of EotN, commonly known as Slaver's exile. Foes there are significantly more difficult than the regulars of EotN.

It's certainly possible to do it with H/H, since I've done so no lmore than four days ago and me and a friend did it in HM not so long ago.

Different enemies will cause you different troubles.

Stone summit groups have troublesome fast casting mesmers resurrecting (dreamers and dominators are priority targets), MMs that will soon overwhelm you, and great healers. Melee characters will hate warders due to their ward against melee.

Forgewright will have you face elementals with tons of heavy AoE, so spreading around is vital.

The setup I used was my character as a heavy damage dealer, SoS Spirit spammer, SAB healer necro and MM, Mhenlo, Cynn, Herta and Lo Sha.

Dzjudz · Apr 13, 2010, 11:33 AM // 11:33

Because the Stone Summit have so many (hard) resses, bringing Frozen Soil is generally a good idea.

majoho · Apr 13, 2010, 11:37 AM // 11:37

Ok thanks, nice to know that it's actually doable.

The setup you were using doesn't seem to have any kind of defensive though aside from the SAB healer which I assume had "Xinrae's Weapon" and "Weapon of Warding" or did you run your MM with monk protection as secondary?

Also what profession was your character, because personally I find it a bit hard to focus on damage dealing with my warrior since I'm looking too much at what is happening to the group - would be easier to be a caster I guess.

EDIT - yeah I read about the Frozen soil on the wiki.

Iuris · Apr 13, 2010, 11:59 AM // 11:59

Quote:

Because the Stone Summit have so many (hard) resses, bringing Frozen Soil is generally a good idea.

Actually, hard reses are only on the mesmers (Dreamers, Dominators). Everyone eles only packs a res signet. Of course, this is enough to seriously drag out every fight with them.

I think my healing necro has Weapon of remedy as elite, and the MM is prot hybrid, bringing Aegis and Protective spirit. But don't look at me for great builds... mie are just adequate to the task.

EDIT: I only did it a few times, and it was always without Frozen soil. Really, just focus on the Dominators and Dreamers, and they'll run out of reses quite fast enough.

Dzjudz · Apr 13, 2010, 12:06 PM // 12:06

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Originally Posted by Iuris

Actually, hard reses are only on the mesmers (Dreamers, Dominators). Everyone eles only packs a res signet. Of course, this is enough to seriously drag out every fight with them.

Well the Cleavers also have Signet of Return. But I put 'hard' in parentheses because they have many resses, some of which are hard resses.

Phaern Majes · Apr 13, 2010, 04:11 PM // 16:11

I just did it the other day with H/H. Seriously the hardest part for me was Forgewright's with all the damn AoE, I have a ton of trouble getting my heroes and henchies to spread out even with flags. I finished the dungeon with 60% dp, but hey I finished it.

Duncan was easy once you get to him and clear out the spirits that spawn and dwarf patrols. Just flagged Olias next to the stair case with Spoil Victor, Life Siphon, and Signet of Sorrow. I set the rest of my heroes right by the group of spirts that keep respawning at the bottom of the stairs. Gave them something to do while Olias slowly worked his magic. Then I (on my warrior) ran up to Duncan and died, which allows for Signet of Sorrow to recharge instantly. After that I manually made Tahlkora cast Protective Spirit on Olias whenever it needed refreshed so Duncan didn't ZOMGWTFPWN him. After about 10 minutes of Olias casting Duncan goes down and you auto-rez open the chest and ta-da victory!

Slasher of Darkness · Apr 13, 2010, 05:18 PM // 17:18

I did it on my derv, but not much difference. I did it with at least 2 SH Nukers, one with Flesh of My Flesh and one with Frozen Soil, the third one was I think an MM with signet of sorrow, not really sure, was a long time ago, I had swap, and some build that would help me soak damage like a sponge with PS up. Basically what I did, was use corners, pull, corner block, heroes nuke the hell out of them, rinse-repeat, had some difficulty also at Forgewight due to heavy AoE and lack of corners, but did it. Took me 2 hours or so. Duncan was easy, now if I remember correctly I actually went to Umbral for a sec, to change a bit around heroes builds, didn't think bout it before I could go to Duncan, but basically, one hero with Signet of Sorrow and one with PS, you swap spirits down the stairs, die next to Duncan, micro PS on the SoS hero, and spam SoS as much as you can, my SoS also had Spoil Victor, then when that recharged I used that, disabled all but SoS, and spammed away, about 10 mins, Duncan dead. Hope it helps.

Eragon Zarroc · Apr 13, 2010, 06:52 PM // 18:52

this would go better in the Heros & AI section since u are asking for a hero setup.

majoho · Apr 14, 2010, 02:08 AM // 02:08

Thanks all, I just did the Justiciar Thommis level and it worked pretty well.

I went with pretty much the setup Iuris said.

Me: W/D
Eremites Attack - Mystic Sweep - Banishing Strike - Whirlwind Attack - Power Attack - Warriors Endurance - Aura of Holy Might - Save Yourselves.

(I took Banishing Strike since there are a lot of summoned creatures there)

Hero 1: N/Mo
Jagged Bones - Animate Bone Minions - Death Nova - Masochism - Extinguish - Protective Spirit - Aegis - Signet of Lost Souls.

( I made a change over the default build and added "Extinguish" since it was the only spell I could find that would remove conditions from the whole party at the same time. I found that it was sorely needed since mhenlo doesn't have a condition removing skill and although the two other heroes can remove conditions it takes too long to do it on all.)

Hero 2: N/Rt
Xinraes Weapon - Weapon of Warding - Mend Body and Soul - Spirit Light - Protective was Kaolai - Life - Signet of Lost Souls - Flesh of My Flesh.

(think that's the default N/Rt healing spec)

Hero 3: Rt/-
Signet of Spirits - Pain - Disenchantment - Spirit Siphon - Ancestor's Rage - Splinter Weapon - Spirit's Gift - Boon of Creation.

(should probably exchange Spirit Siphon for another spirit, I think he has enough energy regen from Boon of Creation already).

Henchies: Mhenlo, Lo Sha, Herta, Cynn.

Again thanks for the help and feel free to give me more good advice or pointers if you have any.

FengShuiDove · Apr 14, 2010, 03:48 AM // 03:48

A good physical is invaluable here. There are actually a lot of places to wall block, and the damage isn't overwhelming, especially in NM. Bring plenty of offense and Frozen Soil to negate rez and shorten your fights.

Otherwise, like the rest of the game, thick offense, good positioning.

majoho · Apr 14, 2010, 08:48 AM // 08:48

Well it's definitely harder than most of the rest of the game even in normal mode

I did the 4 first bosses now, I had a few close calls where I was careless and I ended up with a high DP which worried me somewhat but since there are so many mobs the DP goes away quickly again - didn't find any of the actual boss fights hard so far.

Too bad I have to zone to sell stuff.

Iuris · Apr 14, 2010, 08:55 AM // 08:55

You can sell items via the weapons crafter in the central area, though. At least you don't have to run all the way from Umbral Grotto...

majoho · Apr 14, 2010, 10:58 AM // 10:58

DOH didn't notice that.

majoho · Apr 15, 2010, 02:24 AM // 02:24

Guess i should have read up on the tactics for last boss before trying it... I failed badly.

Apr 13, 2010, 09:21 AM // 09:21	#1
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	A little help would be nice ;) This is probably off-topic here but since there isn't much activity anymore I thought it might be ok to ask here, if not a mod can move it Basically I haven't played for a while and checked what I missed doing and I have the quest "The Last Hierophant" and I'm looking for a good h/h setup for it, not hard mode just normal. I'm not even sure if it's doable h/h since I tried a couple of times but didn't get far but maybe that's just because I'm rusty. My character is a warrior and I've tried with me as "enduring axe", heroes as sabway and the henchies was earth, fire, interrupt and protector. I think they problem is that my aoe damage is too low and maybe I should drop the MM for something else. Any input is welcomed

Apr 13, 2010, 10:35 AM // 10:35	#2
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	Well, for starters, trouble is to be expected - The last Hierophant quest is actually the entry for the elite area of EotN, commonly known as Slaver's exile. Foes there are significantly more difficult than the regulars of EotN. It's certainly possible to do it with H/H, since I've done so no lmore than four days ago and me and a friend did it in HM not so long ago. Different enemies will cause you different troubles. Stone summit groups have troublesome fast casting mesmers resurrecting (dreamers and dominators are priority targets), MMs that will soon overwhelm you, and great healers. Melee characters will hate warders due to their ward against melee. Forgewright will have you face elementals with tons of heavy AoE, so spreading around is vital. The setup I used was my character as a heavy damage dealer, SoS Spirit spammer, SAB healer necro and MM, Mhenlo, Cynn, Herta and Lo Sha.

Apr 13, 2010, 11:33 AM // 11:33	#3
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Because the Stone Summit have so many (hard) resses, bringing Frozen Soil is generally a good idea.

Apr 13, 2010, 11:37 AM // 11:37	#4
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Ok thanks, nice to know that it's actually doable. The setup you were using doesn't seem to have any kind of defensive though aside from the SAB healer which I assume had "Xinrae's Weapon" and "Weapon of Warding" or did you run your MM with monk protection as secondary? Also what profession was your character, because personally I find it a bit hard to focus on damage dealing with my warrior since I'm looking too much at what is happening to the group - would be easier to be a caster I guess. EDIT - yeah I read about the Frozen soil on the wiki.

Apr 13, 2010, 04:11 PM // 16:11	#7
Phaern Majes Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Anywhere but up Guild: The Panserbjorne [ROAR] Profession: R/Mo	I just did it the other day with H/H. Seriously the hardest part for me was Forgewright's with all the damn AoE, I have a ton of trouble getting my heroes and henchies to spread out even with flags. I finished the dungeon with 60% dp, but hey I finished it. Duncan was easy once you get to him and clear out the spirits that spawn and dwarf patrols. Just flagged Olias next to the stair case with Spoil Victor, Life Siphon, and Signet of Sorrow. I set the rest of my heroes right by the group of spirts that keep respawning at the bottom of the stairs. Gave them something to do while Olias slowly worked his magic. Then I (on my warrior) ran up to Duncan and died, which allows for Signet of Sorrow to recharge instantly. After that I manually made Tahlkora cast Protective Spirit on Olias whenever it needed refreshed so Duncan didn't ZOMGWTFPWN him. After about 10 minutes of Olias casting Duncan goes down and you auto-rez open the chest and ta-da victory!

Apr 13, 2010, 05:18 PM // 17:18	#8
Slasher of Darkness Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lots of places~ Profession: D/	I did it on my derv, but not much difference. I did it with at least 2 SH Nukers, one with Flesh of My Flesh and one with Frozen Soil, the third one was I think an MM with signet of sorrow, not really sure, was a long time ago, I had swap, and some build that would help me soak damage like a sponge with PS up. Basically what I did, was use corners, pull, corner block, heroes nuke the hell out of them, rinse-repeat, had some difficulty also at Forgewight due to heavy AoE and lack of corners, but did it. Took me 2 hours or so. Duncan was easy, now if I remember correctly I actually went to Umbral for a sec, to change a bit around heroes builds, didn't think bout it before I could go to Duncan, but basically, one hero with Signet of Sorrow and one with PS, you swap spirits down the stairs, die next to Duncan, micro PS on the SoS hero, and spam SoS as much as you can, my SoS also had Spoil Victor, then when that recharged I used that, disabled all but SoS, and spammed away, about 10 mins, Duncan dead. Hope it helps.

Apr 13, 2010, 06:52 PM // 18:52	#9
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	this would go better in the Heros & AI section since u are asking for a hero setup.

Apr 14, 2010, 02:08 AM // 02:08	#10
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Thanks all, I just did the Justiciar Thommis level and it worked pretty well. I went with pretty much the setup Iuris said. Me: W/D Eremites Attack - Mystic Sweep - Banishing Strike - Whirlwind Attack - Power Attack - Warriors Endurance - Aura of Holy Might - Save Yourselves. (I took Banishing Strike since there are a lot of summoned creatures there) Hero 1: N/Mo Jagged Bones - Animate Bone Minions - Death Nova - Masochism - Extinguish - Protective Spirit - Aegis - Signet of Lost Souls. ( I made a change over the default build and added "Extinguish" since it was the only spell I could find that would remove conditions from the whole party at the same time. I found that it was sorely needed since mhenlo doesn't have a condition removing skill and although the two other heroes can remove conditions it takes too long to do it on all.) Hero 2: N/Rt Xinraes Weapon - Weapon of Warding - Mend Body and Soul - Spirit Light - Protective was Kaolai - Life - Signet of Lost Souls - Flesh of My Flesh. (think that's the default N/Rt healing spec) Hero 3: Rt/- Signet of Spirits - Pain - Disenchantment - Spirit Siphon - Ancestor's Rage - Splinter Weapon - Spirit's Gift - Boon of Creation. (should probably exchange Spirit Siphon for another spirit, I think he has enough energy regen from Boon of Creation already). Henchies: Mhenlo, Lo Sha, Herta, Cynn. Again thanks for the help and feel free to give me more good advice or pointers if you have any.

Apr 14, 2010, 03:48 AM // 03:48	#11
FengShuiDove Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] Profession: A/	A good physical is invaluable here. There are actually a lot of places to wall block, and the damage isn't overwhelming, especially in NM. Bring plenty of offense and Frozen Soil to negate rez and shorten your fights. Otherwise, like the rest of the game, thick offense, good positioning.

Apr 14, 2010, 08:48 AM // 08:48	#12
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Well it's definitely harder than most of the rest of the game even in normal mode I did the 4 first bosses now, I had a few close calls where I was careless and I ended up with a high DP which worried me somewhat but since there are so many mobs the DP goes away quickly again - didn't find any of the actual boss fights hard so far. Too bad I have to zone to sell stuff.

Apr 14, 2010, 08:55 AM // 08:55	#13
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	You can sell items via the weapons crafter in the central area, though. At least you don't have to run all the way from Umbral Grotto...

Apr 14, 2010, 10:58 AM // 10:58	#14
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	DOH didn't notice that.

Apr 15, 2010, 02:24 AM // 02:24	#15
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Guess i should have read up on the tactics for last boss before trying it... I failed badly.