Zealous & Exhaustion question - Guild Wars Forums

PallyKali · Apr 24, 2010, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Do you recover from exhaustion faster with a zealous weapon?

The reason I ask is that a build I read about (shock axe) says to use Zealous Axe. In practice, I've noticed that the zealous effect seems to be useless since 90% of the time I'm exhausted from using Shock. I asked around and somebody said the zealous effect helps to slowly recover exhaustion by means of something like 5 swings = 1 energy uncovered from exhaustion. It's hard for me to test because it's such a slow rate so I was just wondering if anybody knows for sure.

ShadowsRequiem · Apr 24, 2010, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Nope, 1 point of energy is gained back every 3 seconds. People use zealous axes because they are actively using shock+frenzy+bulls strike.

Elephantaliste · Apr 24, 2010, 06:32 PM // 18:32

dont spam shock

Songbringer · Apr 24, 2010, 07:12 PM // 19:12

Yea, the simple thing to do is just avoid Shock as often. Rely on Bull's more often.

PallyKali · Apr 24, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Ok thanks for clearing that up. I'll try to rely on Bull's Strike, but it always seems to fail me somehow.

I've tried using it in a reactive manner, that is, when they start running. But that usually ends up in me chasing them until they stop, at which point Bull's Strike activates and he doesn't get knocked down because he's not moving anymore.

I've tried using it in an anticipatory manner, that is, when I think they're about to start running I press it. But that usually ends up with either Bull's Strike landing too early or with the target just standing still and deciding not to run at all.

Should I be using Bull's Strike only after using Rush?

I realize the question of this thread has been answered and this isn't the help-me-play section so I understand if this thread gets closed, but I appreciate any replies nevertheless.

Giro · Apr 24, 2010, 07:59 PM // 19:59

If you're chasing someone, you should definitely be using rush. You can use Bull's Strike when an opponent starts running, followed by rush and it won't cancel your Bull's action since it is a stance.

MagmaRed · Apr 25, 2010, 12:51 AM // 00:51

As noted, it isn't a matter of the Zealous mod making the exhaustion going away faster, it is a matter of using energy skills frequently (Bull's + Frenzy). Shock should not be spammed, but used when needed. I think the problem is that you need to learn how to use the build still, and are starting to see what you are not doing right yet. It takes practice to learn how to hit Bull's correctly, and the smart players knowing you are using it will be sure to stop when you get near to prevent the knockdown. I'd suggest finding someone familiar with the build to practice with you in a scrimmage. When you make mistakes they can explain why you messed up and teach you how to correct it.

Swahnee · Apr 25, 2010, 09:08 AM // 09:08

Also, you can try to use observer mode, watching carefully how the axe warriors use their builds, for example you can check when they choose to use bull's, and if they have rush activated or not.

Apr 24, 2010, 06:03 PM // 18:03	#1
PallyKali Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Guild: Elite Death Society Profession: W/Mo	Zealous & Exhaustion question Do you recover from exhaustion faster with a zealous weapon? The reason I ask is that a build I read about (shock axe) says to use Zealous Axe. In practice, I've noticed that the zealous effect seems to be useless since 90% of the time I'm exhausted from using Shock. I asked around and somebody said the zealous effect helps to slowly recover exhaustion by means of something like 5 swings = 1 energy uncovered from exhaustion. It's hard for me to test because it's such a slow rate so I was just wondering if anybody knows for sure.

Apr 24, 2010, 06:07 PM // 18:07	#2
ShadowsRequiem Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: Inde is Smoking [Hawt] ToA Profession: W/E	Nope, 1 point of energy is gained back every 3 seconds. People use zealous axes because they are actively using shock+frenzy+bulls strike.

Apr 24, 2010, 06:32 PM // 18:32	#3
Elephantaliste Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Guild: adblockplus.or	dont spam shock

Apr 24, 2010, 07:12 PM // 19:12	#4
Songbringer Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: EastCoast Profession: E/Me	Yea, the simple thing to do is just avoid Shock as often. Rely on Bull's more often.

Apr 24, 2010, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#5
PallyKali Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Guild: Elite Death Society Profession: W/Mo	Ok thanks for clearing that up. I'll try to rely on Bull's Strike, but it always seems to fail me somehow. I've tried using it in a reactive manner, that is, when they start running. But that usually ends up in me chasing them until they stop, at which point Bull's Strike activates and he doesn't get knocked down because he's not moving anymore. I've tried using it in an anticipatory manner, that is, when I think they're about to start running I press it. But that usually ends up with either Bull's Strike landing too early or with the target just standing still and deciding not to run at all. Should I be using Bull's Strike only after using Rush? I realize the question of this thread has been answered and this isn't the help-me-play section so I understand if this thread gets closed, but I appreciate any replies nevertheless.

Apr 24, 2010, 07:59 PM // 19:59	#6
Giro Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sorrow's Furnace Guild: Twilight Knight Brigade [HACK] Profession: W/	If you're chasing someone, you should definitely be using rush. You can use Bull's Strike when an opponent starts running, followed by rush and it won't cancel your Bull's action since it is a stance.

Apr 25, 2010, 12:51 AM // 00:51	#7
MagmaRed Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: Our Crabs Know True [LOVE] Profession: R/	As noted, it isn't a matter of the Zealous mod making the exhaustion going away faster, it is a matter of using energy skills frequently (Bull's + Frenzy). Shock should not be spammed, but used when needed. I think the problem is that you need to learn how to use the build still, and are starting to see what you are not doing right yet. It takes practice to learn how to hit Bull's correctly, and the smart players knowing you are using it will be sure to stop when you get near to prevent the knockdown. I'd suggest finding someone familiar with the build to practice with you in a scrimmage. When you make mistakes they can explain why you messed up and teach you how to correct it.

Apr 25, 2010, 09:08 AM // 09:08	#8
Swahnee Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Italy Profession: Mo/	Also, you can try to use observer mode, watching carefully how the axe warriors use their builds, for example you can check when they choose to use bull's, and if they have rush activated or not.