Obsidian vs. Primeval - Guild Wars Forums

Jostedalsosten · Jul 18, 2010, 04:40 PM // 16:40

I am saving money for a set of elite armor, and I am wondering which is considered the best; obsidian or primeval armor? What is the (aprox) material cost in each case?

Apreciate any help/tips

The Scorpion Knight · Jul 18, 2010, 04:47 PM // 16:47

They both have the same armor rating, it mostly depends on personal preference on which one you like more. Obsidian is going to be more expensive, and material is based on which profession you want it for.

Primeval http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Primeval_armor

Obsidian http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Obsidian_armor

Jostedalsosten · Jul 18, 2010, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by The Scorpion Knight

They both have the same armor rating, it mostly depends on personal preference on which one you like more. Obsidian is going to be more expensive, and material is based on which profession you want it for.

Primeval http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Primeval_armor

Obsidian http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Obsidian_armor

Thanks, but which is considered the best? Like among players? I know they are equal in stats, but when I get an elite armor set I want the one that is considered the best among other players.

EDIT: Ah, never mind. I checked how much obsidian armor would cost andI think I'll pass

Slasher of Darkness · Jul 18, 2010, 04:59 PM // 16:59

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Originally Posted by Jostedalsosten

Thanks, but which is considered the best? Like among players? I know they are equal in stats, but when I get an elite armor set I want the one that is considered the best among other players.

EDIT: Ah, never mind. I checked how much obsidian armor would cost andI think I'll pass

Well, yeah, obsidian WILL cost you over 1 million easily. Anyway, the "best" is considered by most e-peen players, obsidian, depends on profession, primeval might in some cases be a lot nicer. I don't go on armors based on the amount of money it costs or how much e-peen it gives me. I go by the looks, and what I personally like the most. If it's obsidian, I'll save up and buy that, if I like primeval, it's what I'll buy. And remember, don't care too much about what other people think, cause you know, it's you who will be using the armor, wearing it, and staring at it all the time. Go by what YOU think looks good and is worth the money.

Arduin · Jul 18, 2010, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Try not to care about what other people think. You'll end up like anyone else with the 'best' armor and at the same time suck at the game lie there's no tomorrow.

Damian Manson · Jul 18, 2010, 05:00 PM // 17:00

Why care what others think its you that has to wear the armor not them get what you want

if your that bothered about it get both. If not then obby will be the one others might care about even though its so common now sadly.

(P.S if you take the time to save up to get obby then it wouldn't take to long to get primevil so if your going for obby then you would be aswell to get both most mat requirements for primevil are common enough anyway so its really just the 75k part for primevil where for obby its the 100+ ectos and obby shards that would take the longest to accumulate for obby armor.)

Anyways whatever YOU decide good luck with it and have fun doing it :P

Edit as said above and i was

Jostedalsosten · Jul 18, 2010, 05:08 PM // 17:08

I like both of them when it comes to design, and if the obsidian had not been that costy I would have gone for that one because creds isn't exactly negative=3

But I totally agree, I play for fun, I don't really care what other players think=)

I Pwn Brownies · Jul 18, 2010, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by Jostedalsosten

which is considered the best? Like among players?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jostedalsosten

I don't really care what other players think=)

You like to contradict yourself, no?

Lord Dagon · Jul 18, 2010, 05:18 PM // 17:18

well it also very much depends on what professsion+ gender.
for example, Female ele obsidian is vastly superior to primevil for female ele b/c primevil is looks like you fell through an umbrella.
But buety(know i spelled that wrong go go 6am) is in the eyes of the beholder. So go w/ what you think would look nice. It's all about choices <3

**cosyfiep** · Jul 18, 2010, 05:36 PM // 17:36

its all personal preference and nothing more. There are plenty of max armors out there, take a look thru the armor pages on wiki and see which YOU like and then go for that, what other people think is irrelevant.

Grim Rogue · Jul 18, 2010, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Like they said, get what you like best.

Obby armor dyed black was cool the first million times someone showed up in it. Spend those ectos on fun stuff, title items, that rare mini you have wanted, etc etc.

The skins on weapons and armors are great when you are applying your own personal tastes and looks. I dye my armor anything I want. I experiment. I don't have one set of black armor, only because I wanted to look different.

Enjoyment of the game should be your goal. That feeling of "I have the most expensive armor dyed all black and I look freaking awesome" only applies if...well, you think you look freaking awesome.

Mintha Syl · Jul 18, 2010, 06:13 PM // 18:13

Really, there's so many armors you have a great choice...and, unless you spend all your time in towns, you're the one who's going to see it most.
Personally I think obsidian is the most horrible armor in game, generally, and I'm happy with that so I'm not gonna spill my blood for it (I already do it for vabbi which is the next most expensive armor, even if not nearly near in cost). But the others think otherwise, so it's all a matter of taste.

Owik Gall · Jul 18, 2010, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Can you at least tell us what class you're shopping the armor for?

Highlander Of Alba · Jul 18, 2010, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Have to agree here.......there is no such thing as Best

Its all to do with your fashion taste as you are aware same stats

So look at the armours and choose the one you wish as its you who is wearing it.

never be forced into choosing one by others.

Epeen guys like to think they are the one ..ignore such and go with what you like to be wearing as an armour

The Last Battle · Jul 18, 2010, 07:08 PM // 19:08

mesmer Primeval is awesome "_"

vamp08 · Jul 18, 2010, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Obsidian Armor:

Looks good on:
-Elementalist
-Dervish
-Paragon
-Ritualist
-Necromancer (Female only, preferably died Pink or Purple)

Looks terrible on:
-Warrior (Ratio of Hand Mass:Body mass is incorrect)
-Assassin (The class ruins the armor, not the armor ruining the class. See: Shadow Form abuse and the wealth amassed from that abuse leading to the cut-copy-paste of every Sin in Black-Dyed Obsidian armor)
-Mesmer
-Monk

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/thread

Ugh · Jul 18, 2010, 09:25 PM // 21:25

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Originally Posted by Jostedalsosten

Thanks, but which is considered the best? Like among players? I know they are equal in stats, but when I get an elite armor set I want the one that is considered the best among other players.

Ugh. This is why I hate it when there's one super elite thing in a game; it breeds conformity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamp08

Obsidian Armor:

Looks good on:
-Elementalist
-Dervish
-Paragon
-Ritualist
-Necromancer (Female only, preferably died Pink or Purple)

Looks terrible on:
-Warrior (Ratio of Hand Mass:Body mass is incorrect)
-Assassin (The class ruins the armor, not the armor ruining the class. See: Shadow Form abuse and the wealth amassed from that abuse leading to the cut-copy-paste of every Sin in Black-Dyed Obsidian armor)
-Mesmer
-Monk

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/thread

You forgot rangers. Is their Obsidian too mediocre to fall in either extreme or did you just neglect them because you're from Anet?

I agree with your conclusion, though I'd put female eles in 'terrible' and male paras in 'terrible.' And I'd put both ranger versions in 'good' under the condition that female rangers wear whatever skirt that is often mixed with it instead of the actual Obsidian pants.

vamp08 · Jul 18, 2010, 09:35 PM // 21:35

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Originally Posted by Ugh

Ugh. This is why I hate it when there's one super elite thing in a game; it breeds conformity.

You forgot rangers. Is their Obsidian too mediocre to fall in either extreme or did you just neglect them because you're from Anet?

I agree with your conclusion, though I'd put female eles in 'terrible' and male paras in 'terrible.' And I'd put both ranger versions in 'good' under the condition that female rangers wear whatever skirt that is often mixed with it instead of the actual Obsidian pants.

Indeed I did leave out Ranger Obsidian armor. Due to it looking more like a Pre-Seering texture than a "High-End" texture (aka It's absolute crap).

On the other hand, If i was talking about Primeval armor; Ranger would be 2nd-best next to Dervishes.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jul 18, 2010, 09:56 PM // 21:56

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Originally Posted by Grim Rogue

Like they said, get what you like best.

Obby armor dyed black was cool the first million times someone showed up in it. Spend those ectos on fun stuff, title items, that rare mini you have wanted, etc etc.

The skins on weapons and armors are great when you are applying your own personal tastes and looks. I dye my armor anything I want. I experiment. I don't have one set of black armor, only because I wanted to look different.

Enjoyment of the game should be your goal. That feeling of "I have the most expensive armor dyed all black and I look freaking awesome" only applies if...well, you think you look freaking awesome.

You seem to think there's some fundamental difference between doing something to be different and doing something to be mainstream. They are both based on your opinion of popular trends. If you had said "I don't have one set of black armor because I don't like black armor", you could have avoided hypocrisy.

It's fine to argue whether you prefer to fit in or stand out, or whether there is some problem with popular culture that you reasonably believe should be different, but to treat fitting in as somehow morally cheaper than standing out is simply incorrect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamp08

Obsidian Armor:

Looks good on:
-Elementalist
-Dervish
-Paragon
-Ritualist
-Necromancer (Female only, preferably died Pink or Purple)

Looks terrible on:
-Warrior (Ratio of Hand Mass:Body mass is incorrect)
-Assassin (The class ruins the armor, not the armor ruining the class. See: Shadow Form abuse and the wealth amassed from that abuse leading to the cut-copy-paste of every Sin in Black-Dyed Obsidian armor)
-Mesmer
-Monk

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/thread

How did you calculate the mass of obsidian armor's hands and body? Is there a hidden (or undiscovered-by-me) database of densities? If you assumed some arbitrary uniform density, why not make the simpler and equivalent comparison of volumes? What is your calculated hand:body mass ratio, and how does it deviate from the expected value? What range of values would be deemed acceptable? With these questions unanswered, and a general lack of evidence for any of your arguments, I fear your "/thread" may have been premature.

charlzz93 · Jul 18, 2010, 11:32 PM // 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by vamp08

Obsidian Armor:

Looks good on:
-Elementalist
-Dervish
-Paragon
-Ritualist
-Necromancer (Female only, preferably died Pink or Purple)

Looks terrible on:
-Warrior (Ratio of Hand Mass:Body mass is incorrect)
-Assassin (The class ruins the armor, not the armor ruining the class. See: Shadow Form abuse and the wealth amassed from that abuse leading to the cut-copy-paste of every Sin in Black-Dyed Obsidian armor)
-Mesmer
-Monk

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/thread

Female mesmer obsidian is the best armour set in the game in my opinion. Male looks terrible, but female is win :P

Jul 18, 2010, 04:40 PM // 16:40	#1
Jostedalsosten Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2010 Guild: The Imperial Guards of Ascalon [TIGA] Profession: D/Mo	Obsidian vs. Primeval I am saving money for a set of elite armor, and I am wondering which is considered the best; obsidian or primeval armor? What is the (aprox) material cost in each case? Apreciate any help/tips

Jul 18, 2010, 05:36 PM // 17:36	#10
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	its all personal preference and nothing more. There are plenty of max armors out there, take a look thru the armor pages on wiki and see which YOU like and then go for that, what other people think is irrelevant. __________________ where is the 'all you can eat' cookie bar?

Jul 18, 2010, 04:47 PM // 16:47	#2
The Scorpion Knight Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2009	They both have the same armor rating, it mostly depends on personal preference on which one you like more. Obsidian is going to be more expensive, and material is based on which profession you want it for. Primeval http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Primeval_armor Obsidian http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Obsidian_armor

Jul 18, 2010, 04:59 PM // 16:59	#5
Arduin Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Netherlands Guild: Limburgse Jagers [LJ] Profession: R/	Try not to care about what other people think. You'll end up like anyone else with the 'best' armor and at the same time suck at the game lie there's no tomorrow.

Jul 18, 2010, 05:00 PM // 17:00	#6
Damian Manson Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2007 Profession: D/	Why care what others think its you that has to wear the armor not them get what you want if your that bothered about it get both. If not then obby will be the one others might care about even though its so common now sadly. (P.S if you take the time to save up to get obby then it wouldn't take to long to get primevil so if your going for obby then you would be aswell to get both most mat requirements for primevil are common enough anyway so its really just the 75k part for primevil where for obby its the 100+ ectos and obby shards that would take the longest to accumulate for obby armor.) Anyways whatever YOU decide good luck with it and have fun doing it :P Edit as said above and i was

Jul 18, 2010, 05:08 PM // 17:08	#7
Jostedalsosten Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2010 Guild: The Imperial Guards of Ascalon [TIGA] Profession: D/Mo	I like both of them when it comes to design, and if the obsidian had not been that costy I would have gone for that one because creds isn't exactly negative=3 But I totally agree, I play for fun, I don't really care what other players think=)

Jul 18, 2010, 05:18 PM // 17:18	#9
Lord Dagon Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Inside the Oblivion Gate Guild: The Imperial Guards of Istan[TIGE] Profession: E/Me	well it also very much depends on what professsion+ gender. for example, Female ele obsidian is vastly superior to primevil for female ele b/c primevil is looks like you fell through an umbrella. But buety(know i spelled that wrong go go 6am) is in the eyes of the beholder. So go w/ what you think would look nice. It's all about choices <3

Jul 18, 2010, 06:07 PM // 18:07	#11
Grim Rogue Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2009 Guild: We are feeling a bit [evil] Profession: N/	Like they said, get what you like best. Obby armor dyed black was cool the first million times someone showed up in it. Spend those ectos on fun stuff, title items, that rare mini you have wanted, etc etc. The skins on weapons and armors are great when you are applying your own personal tastes and looks. I dye my armor anything I want. I experiment. I don't have one set of black armor, only because I wanted to look different. Enjoyment of the game should be your goal. That feeling of "I have the most expensive armor dyed all black and I look freaking awesome" only applies if...well, you think you look freaking awesome.

Jul 18, 2010, 06:13 PM // 18:13	#12
Mintha Syl Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2010	Really, there's so many armors you have a great choice...and, unless you spend all your time in towns, you're the one who's going to see it most. Personally I think obsidian is the most horrible armor in game, generally, and I'm happy with that so I'm not gonna spill my blood for it (I already do it for vabbi which is the next most expensive armor, even if not nearly near in cost). But the others think otherwise, so it's all a matter of taste.

Jul 18, 2010, 07:04 PM // 19:04	#13
Owik Gall Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Guardians of the Light Profession: W/Mo	Can you at least tell us what class you're shopping the armor for?

Jul 18, 2010, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#14
Highlander Of Alba Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Real Rogue Clan Profession: Rt/Mo	Have to agree here.......there is no such thing as Best Its all to do with your fashion taste as you are aware same stats So look at the armours and choose the one you wish as its you who is wearing it. never be forced into choosing one by others. Epeen guys like to think they are the one ..ignore such and go with what you like to be wearing as an armour

Jul 18, 2010, 07:08 PM // 19:08	#15
The Last Battle Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2009 Guild: FTS Profession: A/E	mesmer Primeval is awesome "_"

Jul 18, 2010, 08:11 PM // 20:11	#16
vamp08 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: PA, USA Guild: [COPY] Profession: D/	Obsidian Armor: Looks good on: -Elementalist -Dervish -Paragon -Ritualist -Necromancer (Female only, preferably died Pink or Purple) Looks terrible on: -Warrior (Ratio of Hand Mass:Body mass is incorrect) -Assassin (The class ruins the armor, not the armor ruining the class. See: Shadow Form abuse and the wealth amassed from that abuse leading to the cut-copy-paste of every Sin in Black-Dyed Obsidian armor) -Mesmer -Monk ----- /thread