What does 20/10 mean? - Guild Wars Forums

Ailina · Jan 18, 2011, 03:21 PM // 15:21

Ok, so this is probably an incredibly noobish question, but what does the term "20/10" in reference to a staff mean?
I checked the glossery on both wikis, and neither one contained the term.
Also, could someone possibly post a mixture of such a staff? (I'm a very visual person).

Thanks so much!

Yol · Jan 18, 2011, 03:25 PM // 15:25

20% chance of half casting time of the spells linked to the staff requirement (e.g. fire, death magic), and 10% chance of half recharge time of all spells.

Rushin Roulette · Jan 18, 2011, 03:27 PM // 15:27

Heya. 20/10 on staves stands for the inherrent stats (20% global Halves skill recharge and 10% Global halves casting time)

20/20 is the same as 20/10, but with 20% Halves casting time for a specific attribute line (as opposed to all spells). I have one currently on my PC thread (Second item in the list) as you wanted a visual example;

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...t10463043.html

Ailina · Jan 18, 2011, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Wait, Yol and Rushin, are your answers different? They seem to be two different definitions...
So I am still confused. Is there more than one definition for 20/10?

Roen · Jan 18, 2011, 05:43 PM // 17:43

The first number generally refers to percent chance half-cast time.
The second number generally refers to percent chance half-recharge time.

Thus:

a 20/20 set is 20% half-cast / 20% half-recharge.
a 20/10 set is 20% half-cast / 10% half-recharge.
a 40/40 set is ~36% half-cast / ~36% half-recharge.

(http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/40/40)

Ailina · Jan 18, 2011, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roen

The first number generally refers to percent chance half-cast time.
The second number generally refers to percent chance half-recharge time.

a 20/10 set is 20% half-cast / 10% half-recharge.
(http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/40/40)

Wait, so, which of these numbers refers to a staff head/wrapping? Because I'm assuming that these numbers are only referring to inherent modifiers, in which case there can't be both 20% half-cast and 10% half-recharge without any mods...

*sigh* I feel like I'm missing something very obvious, but it's just not clicking yet...

take_me · Jan 18, 2011, 07:10 PM // 19:10

20 = HSR 20% (white mod)
10 = HCT 10% (gold mod - inherent or inscription)

On a 20/10-staff, neither of these numbers refer to a staff head or wrapping and usually "non-inscribable" staves are meant.

*Darcy* · Jan 18, 2011, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Every staff (if not merchant food) should have a 20% HSR of all spells, which is found right under the name of the staff when you mouse over.

The 10% HCT of all spells comes either as an inherent mod for staves that drop in Cantha or Prophecies and have no inscription slot or as the inscription "Don't Think Twice" (at maxed level) that can be put on staves that drop in Nightfall, EotN or End Chests and Zaishen Chest and have an inscription slot.

This 10% inherent mod or inscription is very useful when the required attribute for the staff is not a line from which you want to use spells, such as Divine Favor or Soul Reaping.

Roen · Jan 18, 2011, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ailina

*sigh* I feel like I'm missing something very obvious, but it's just not clicking yet...

Apparently, when people write 20/10 they're talking about 20% chance of half-spell-recharge and 10% chance of half-cast-time of ALL spells whereas 20/20 refers to 20% chance of half-spell-recharge and 20% chance of half-cast-time of ONE SPECIFIC ATTRIBUTE spells.

In other words: what Darcy said.

Quaker · Jan 18, 2011, 08:23 PM // 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darcy

This 10% inherent mod or inscription is very useful when the required attribute for the staff is not a line from which you want to use spells, such as Divine Favor or Soul Reaping.

Or if you are using a mix of PvE skills and/or skills linked to several attributes, and you want the % chance to work with all of them.

Ailina · Jan 19, 2011, 03:21 AM // 03:21

So basically, any perfect staff with a HCT 10% inherent modifier (or don't think twice inscrip), right?

Thanks all for your help!

Jan 18, 2011, 03:21 PM // 15:21	#1
Ailina Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010 Guild: Whats Prot Spirit [FoR] Profession: R/	What does 20/10 mean? Ok, so this is probably an incredibly noobish question, but what does the term "20/10" in reference to a staff mean? I checked the glossery on both wikis, and neither one contained the term. Also, could someone possibly post a mixture of such a staff? (I'm a very visual person). Thanks so much!

Jan 18, 2011, 07:27 PM // 19:27	#8
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Every staff (if not merchant food) should have a 20% HSR of all spells, which is found right under the name of the staff when you mouse over. The 10% HCT of all spells comes either as an inherent mod for staves that drop in Cantha or Prophecies and have no inscription slot or as the inscription "Don't Think Twice" (at maxed level) that can be put on staves that drop in Nightfall, EotN or End Chests and Zaishen Chest and have an inscription slot. This 10% inherent mod or inscription is very useful when the required attribute for the staff is not a line from which you want to use spells, such as Divine Favor or Soul Reaping. Last edited by Darcy; Jan 18, 2011 at 07:30 PM // 19:30..

Jan 18, 2011, 03:25 PM // 15:25	#2
Yol Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: GameAmp Guides [AMP] Profession: E/	20% chance of half casting time of the spells linked to the staff requirement (e.g. fire, death magic), and 10% chance of half recharge time of all spells.

Jan 18, 2011, 03:27 PM // 15:27	#3
Rushin Roulette Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Right here Guild: Ende	Heya. 20/10 on staves stands for the inherrent stats (20% global Halves skill recharge and 10% Global halves casting time) 20/20 is the same as 20/10, but with 20% Halves casting time for a specific attribute line (as opposed to all spells). I have one currently on my PC thread (Second item in the list) as you wanted a visual example; http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...t10463043.html

Jan 18, 2011, 04:52 PM // 16:52	#4
Ailina Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010 Guild: Whats Prot Spirit [FoR] Profession: R/	Wait, Yol and Rushin, are your answers different? They seem to be two different definitions... So I am still confused. Is there more than one definition for 20/10?

Jan 18, 2011, 05:43 PM // 17:43	#5
Roen Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: GMT-5 Guild: [Nite] Profession: R/	The first number generally refers to percent chance half-cast time. The second number generally refers to percent chance half-recharge time. Thus: a 20/20 set is 20% half-cast / 20% half-recharge. a 20/10 set is 20% half-cast / 10% half-recharge. a 40/40 set is ~36% half-cast / ~36% half-recharge. (http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/40/40)

Jan 18, 2011, 07:10 PM // 19:10	#7
take_me Furnace Stoker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe Guild: Country Roads [HOME]	20 = HSR 20% (white mod) 10 = HCT 10% (gold mod - inherent or inscription) On a 20/10-staff, neither of these numbers refer to a staff head or wrapping and usually "non-inscribable" staves are meant.

Jan 19, 2011, 03:21 AM // 03:21	#11
Ailina Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010 Guild: Whats Prot Spirit [FoR] Profession: R/	So basically, any perfect staff with a HCT 10% inherent modifier (or don't think twice inscrip), right? Thanks all for your help!