Drop Rate influenced by district? - Guild Wars Forums

Chasing Squirrels · Jan 22, 2011, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Hey so I was in a party earlier doing vsf and heard another player talking about how being in international or asian districts will increase the the drop rate for items such as ectos/vs. Is this true or horse?

Kosar The Cruel · Jan 22, 2011, 07:52 PM // 19:52

I don't think that's true at all.
Anet has loot scaling(I think that's the right term), Where if you consistently farm the same area the loot is scaled back so you make less and less. Not sure if this is applied to dungeons as well though.

Chasing Squirrels · Jan 22, 2011, 07:54 PM // 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kosar The Cruel

I don't think that's true at all.
Anet has loot scaling(I think that's the right term), Where if you consistently farm the same area the loot is scaled back so you make less and less. Not sure if this is applied to dungeons as well though.

Isn't that for hero armor remnants?

Bristlebane · Jan 22, 2011, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Personally I've seen signs that loot increased considerably during times when people been busy with other things (ie. Snowball Dominance, festival farming), .. but if it's affected by all regions or just one, I have no idea.

AndrewSX · Jan 22, 2011, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Hero armor remnants have a huge drop of chances when you get 4 of it (of any kind).
BTW, i think that a relation between district and drop chances is true as the benefit of farm with leechers rather then alone.....in other words no.

RedDog91 · Jan 22, 2011, 08:51 PM // 20:51

its just a widely accepted myth.
there is no proof to back it up.

If you are on a slower PC, then less populated districts just make you lag less.

LifeInfusion · Jan 22, 2011, 11:35 PM // 23:35

My best drops are in places where there are no people in the outposts. For populated areas I go Polish or International.

I got a ruby and a sapphire in 10 minutes of FoW dual accounting (2 of my accounts + 6 heroes) when I entered from a different place than Temple of Ages.

Voodoo Rage · Jan 22, 2011, 11:53 PM // 23:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

My best drops are in places where there are no people in the outposts. For populated areas I go Polish or International.

I got a ruby and a sapphire in 10 minutes of FoW dual accounting (2 of my accounts + 6 heroes) when I entered from a different place than Temple of Ages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Saint Scarlet · Jan 23, 2011, 12:42 AM // 00:42

Cannot find it right at the moment but on one of the wiki's there was a whole article about "Hot Districts", which basically mean when farming for something that district has an above average drop rate for a period of time. That could be possibly what the original guy meant. I'll try to find the page and post a link.

Utopian · Jan 23, 2011, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

^ Made me laugh a lot!

There's been no documented improvement to drops depending on district and I'm 100% sure Anet would never make a system that pointless. Much simpler and more fair to just keep rates the same regardless of district.

*Darcy* · Jan 23, 2011, 02:46 AM // 02:46

Loot drops have nothing to do with districts or servers and everything to do with your personal luck.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 23, 2011, 04:53 AM // 04:53

the only tidbit I can add ....my husband doesnt play very much anymore (working 2 jobs will do that with your time)....whenever he plays he gets great drops (black dye, gold weapons etc).....now I play just about everyday....I rarely get great drops.
If I dont play for a few days, when I get back I get some nice drops on the first day.

but this may all be part of my perspective.

Snorph · Jan 23, 2011, 05:11 AM // 05:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosyfiep

the only tidbit I can add ....my husband doesnt play very much anymore (working 2 jobs will do that with your time)....whenever he plays he gets great drops (black dye, gold weapons etc).....now I play just about everyday....I rarely get great drops.
If I dont play for a few days, when I get back I get some nice drops on the first day.

but this may all be part of my perspective.

This I have to agree on, when I don't play GW for awhile and come back, my loot is great. Play on a daily avg, and loot isn't so great.

Chrisworld · Jan 23, 2011, 06:58 AM // 06:58

If anyone here has played diablo 2 you will know what im about to mention, lol this reminds me so much...

But I SWEAR the chat gem makes more gems drop in games!!

Spiritz · Jan 23, 2011, 09:28 AM // 09:28

Ok heres my few dollars worth.
Many say drops are set upon entry to a zone , many say switch zones to empty ones.
Loot scaling does come into play but sadly we dont really know at what point it starts - 10 run or 50 runs etc.
If drops are set upon entry - you just may have had a ball roll of the die and server gives you a crap run.Switching to a diff/empty dist isnt doing anything for you except rerolling your entry so in theory terms - instead of going in ae1 and into xxx zone and getting a bad roll you went to russian dist xxx and got a slightly better roll.
Sadly you cant really prove nor disprove because of the millions of random factors that can affect the rolling of the die ( please dont sidetrack the thread with replies on drops as theres been too many posts about it - may as well try and prove/disprove god as its same thing ).

Ive had day where i get ok drops and days with bad drops , ive had it where ive not stepped foot in uw for 6 months and gone in and first 2 runs i got no ectos at all but the other team members got some ( wife got 5 grrrr ) so the theory of not visitng the zone for a while seemed to fail bigtime there.

What it boils down to and players really dislike is luck - like darcy said and nothing much else and thats all.Also remember that h/h make a real big living off us players and they steal ( as its put ) our drops , maybe they had the luck for the golds/greens and we didnt.
1 last example - keshel the voracious ( think its spelt that way ) monk boss in nf - ive probably done 300 runs in total over time at them in hm for elite monk tome and got a grand total of Zero , scareater boss in factions probably done ages ago on sin maybe 500 runs ( fun boss to solo ) and weirdly i got around 10 greens and again Zero elite tomes.Players would say i was real unlucky , i even switched districts between some of the runs and was doing in russian dist etc.

Just Sai · Jan 23, 2011, 09:35 AM // 09:35

i would think the die and scripts are the same for all districts at all times
engineering a system that intense would be impractical

imo
some people will say anything to get out of a crowded server.
purely lag related
which dont make much more sense to me either cause once u zone out your in your own world
it does not have to be that difficult

LifeInfusion · Jan 23, 2011, 01:07 PM // 13:07

My advice is to reset the loot table by completing quests and missions. That's something I know works.

The Polish thing was a mere joke on my part because everyone always says it gives better drops and somehow all my best drops come from non-American.

Yawgmoth · Jan 23, 2011, 01:58 PM // 13:58

I have observed many many times a significant increase of drops quality upon switching to international districts (I was farming various stuff a lot back when there was no free travel between districts so int. was the only option).
It was like drops in my home districts got exhausted (it wasn't the old antifarm code as I did long runs across large areas, for example multiple bosses in Factions or a large part of FoW) so I had only whites/blues and completely nothing of value drop for like 1-2 hours and then I switched to international and got like 3 golds +2 greens on the first run there. True story, a dramatic drop quality increase happened many times.

Still I think this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias is much more likely the case than switching districts being actually relevant... but... can't be 100% sure! Keep in mind drops in GW are pregenerated upon the creation of the instance, not at the moment of actual drops. Who knows what parameters are used by the game when seeding the drops. Remember those experiments when 2 players entered the same area in the same time creating 2 separate instances but getting exactly or almost exactly the same drops? That should give us something to think about or test more.

Utopian · Jan 23, 2011, 04:20 PM // 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisworld

If anyone here has played diablo 2 you will know what im about to mention, lol this reminds me so much...

But I SWEAR the chat gem makes more gems drop in games!!

LOL I love the mystery of the chat gem!

c_ras · Jan 24, 2011, 06:01 PM // 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chasing Squirrels

Hey so I was in a party earlier doing vsf and heard another player talking about how being in international or asian districts will increase the the drop rate for items such as ectos/vs. Is this true or horse?

Are you talking about being in an international district of a town, outpust, etc. BEFORE zoning to an instance to farm rare items? I am sure that is what you meant. Because once you zone, the instance is independent of region.

Anyways, regardless of what region or district you are in, I am pretty sure the rates are the same. You are still going to have to go through the same old, long, tedious, and boring routines.

Jan 22, 2011, 07:48 PM // 19:48	#1
Chasing Squirrels Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2008	Drop Rate influenced by district? Hey so I was in a party earlier doing vsf and heard another player talking about how being in international or asian districts will increase the the drop rate for items such as ectos/vs. Is this true or horse?

Jan 23, 2011, 04:53 AM // 04:53	#12
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	the only tidbit I can add ....my husband doesnt play very much anymore (working 2 jobs will do that with your time)....whenever he plays he gets great drops (black dye, gold weapons etc).....now I play just about everyday....I rarely get great drops. If I dont play for a few days, when I get back I get some nice drops on the first day. but this may all be part of my perspective. __________________ where is the 'all you can eat' cookie bar?

Jan 23, 2011, 09:35 AM // 09:35	#16
Just Sai Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: aotearoa Profession: Mo/	i would think the die and scripts are the same for all districts at all times engineering a system that intense would be impractical imo some people will say anything to get out of a crowded server. purely lag related which dont make much more sense to me either cause once u zone out your in your own world it does not have to be that difficult Last edited by Just Sai; Jan 23, 2011 at 09:37 AM // 09:37..

Jan 22, 2011, 07:52 PM // 19:52	#2
Kosar The Cruel Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Profession: D/	I don't think that's true at all. Anet has loot scaling(I think that's the right term), Where if you consistently farm the same area the loot is scaled back so you make less and less. Not sure if this is applied to dungeons as well though.

Jan 22, 2011, 08:06 PM // 20:06	#4
Bristlebane Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2008 Profession: Mo/	Personally I've seen signs that loot increased considerably during times when people been busy with other things (ie. Snowball Dominance, festival farming), .. but if it's affected by all regions or just one, I have no idea.

Jan 22, 2011, 08:07 PM // 20:07	#5
AndrewSX Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2010 Location: Italy, Turin Guild: Lake Profession: E/	Hero armor remnants have a huge drop of chances when you get 4 of it (of any kind). BTW, i think that a relation between district and drop chances is true as the benefit of farm with leechers rather then alone.....in other words no.

Jan 22, 2011, 08:51 PM // 20:51	#6
RedDog91 Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Farming for Nick gifts Profession: R/	its just a widely accepted myth. there is no proof to back it up. If you are on a slower PC, then less populated districts just make you lag less.

Jan 22, 2011, 11:35 PM // 23:35	#7
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	My best drops are in places where there are no people in the outposts. For populated areas I go Polish or International. I got a ruby and a sapphire in 10 minutes of FoW dual accounting (2 of my accounts + 6 heroes) when I entered from a different place than Temple of Ages.

Jan 23, 2011, 12:42 AM // 00:42	#9
Saint Scarlet Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Everywhere Guild: Rise of Corruption[RoC] Profession: R/	Cannot find it right at the moment but on one of the wiki's there was a whole article about "Hot Districts", which basically mean when farming for something that district has an above average drop rate for a period of time. That could be possibly what the original guy meant. I'll try to find the page and post a link.

Jan 23, 2011, 02:46 AM // 02:46	#11
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Loot drops have nothing to do with districts or servers and everything to do with your personal luck.

Jan 23, 2011, 06:58 AM // 06:58	#14
Chrisworld Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2010 Guild: Gameamp Guides [AMP] Profession: W/	If anyone here has played diablo 2 you will know what im about to mention, lol this reminds me so much... But I SWEAR the chat gem makes more gems drop in games!!

Jan 23, 2011, 09:28 AM // 09:28	#15
Spiritz Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: DMFC	Ok heres my few dollars worth. Many say drops are set upon entry to a zone , many say switch zones to empty ones. Loot scaling does come into play but sadly we dont really know at what point it starts - 10 run or 50 runs etc. If drops are set upon entry - you just may have had a ball roll of the die and server gives you a crap run.Switching to a diff/empty dist isnt doing anything for you except rerolling your entry so in theory terms - instead of going in ae1 and into xxx zone and getting a bad roll you went to russian dist xxx and got a slightly better roll. Sadly you cant really prove nor disprove because of the millions of random factors that can affect the rolling of the die ( please dont sidetrack the thread with replies on drops as theres been too many posts about it - may as well try and prove/disprove god as its same thing ). Ive had day where i get ok drops and days with bad drops , ive had it where ive not stepped foot in uw for 6 months and gone in and first 2 runs i got no ectos at all but the other team members got some ( wife got 5 grrrr ) so the theory of not visitng the zone for a while seemed to fail bigtime there. What it boils down to and players really dislike is luck - like darcy said and nothing much else and thats all.Also remember that h/h make a real big living off us players and they steal ( as its put ) our drops , maybe they had the luck for the golds/greens and we didnt. 1 last example - keshel the voracious ( think its spelt that way ) monk boss in nf - ive probably done 300 runs in total over time at them in hm for elite monk tome and got a grand total of Zero , scareater boss in factions probably done ages ago on sin maybe 500 runs ( fun boss to solo ) and weirdly i got around 10 greens and again Zero elite tomes.Players would say i was real unlucky , i even switched districts between some of the runs and was doing in russian dist etc.

Jan 23, 2011, 01:07 PM // 13:07	#17
LifeInfusion Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: in the midline Profession: E/Mo	My advice is to reset the loot table by completing quests and missions. That's something I know works. The Polish thing was a mere joke on my part because everyone always says it gives better drops and somehow all my best drops come from non-American.

Jan 23, 2011, 01:58 PM // 13:58	#18
Yawgmoth Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2005	I have observed many many times a significant increase of drops quality upon switching to international districts (I was farming various stuff a lot back when there was no free travel between districts so int. was the only option). It was like drops in my home districts got exhausted (it wasn't the old antifarm code as I did long runs across large areas, for example multiple bosses in Factions or a large part of FoW) so I had only whites/blues and completely nothing of value drop for like 1-2 hours and then I switched to international and got like 3 golds +2 greens on the first run there. True story, a dramatic drop quality increase happened many times. Still I think this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias is much more likely the case than switching districts being actually relevant... but... can't be 100% sure! Keep in mind drops in GW are pregenerated upon the creation of the instance, not at the moment of actual drops. Who knows what parameters are used by the game when seeding the drops. Remember those experiments when 2 players entered the same area in the same time creating 2 separate instances but getting exactly or almost exactly the same drops? That should give us something to think about or test more.