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thedeadlyassassin · Mar 25, 2011, 01:10 AM // 01:10

I read something awhile back that said ArenaNet plans on having "events" in Guild Wars 1 to coincide with the events in Guild Wars 2 (lore wise).

Just thought I'd mention now this thread will have some lore for Guild Wars 2, so consider this a "Spoiler" alert

So, we all know that Kralkatorrik is sleeping in Grothmar Wardowns and flies down to the Tomb of Prevail Kings, leaving a "scar" in the earth. We also know that Primordus awakens where the Great Destroyer was slain. We also know that Zhaitan's awakening raises the kingdom of Orr. However, we also know that Guild Wars 2 takes place 250 years after the death of the Great Destroyer. There are also events such as the planting of the Pale Tree in Arbor Bay, which you can visit. Also the human WiK Civil War. These are somewhat events that we can take part in or go and view.

So, my question is, does anyone know if we'll get to see more? I can't remember where I read about these possibly being true, but it would be pretty cool if players could maybe take part of a mysterious problem in Grothmar Wardowns and have a cutscene in which the dragon awakens or something.

PS: Sorry if this is the wrong section. Don't know where else I'd put it.

sykoone · Mar 25, 2011, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Looking at the timeline, there's few events that will take place during our character's lifetime. Kralkatorrik's awakening won't take place for a couple hundred years, and I don't think Zhiatan's arrival will happen much sooner than that. About all we can hope to see is the formation of Ebonhawke, maybe the beginnings of Joko's rise to power and separation of Elona, or the seeds of Cantha's expulsion of lesser races. There's a very slim chance we may see the Foefire, but I doubt it.

thedeadlyassassin · Mar 25, 2011, 01:29 AM // 01:29

Have there been any ingame footage of the Elder Dragons from Anet? What is the foefire?

TheGizzy · Mar 25, 2011, 01:29 AM // 01:29

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Originally Posted by sykoone

Looking at the timeline, there's few events that will take place during our character's lifetime. Kralkatorrik's awakening won't take place for a couple hundred years, and I don't think Zhiatan's arrival will happen much sooner than that. About all we can hope to see is the formation of Ebonhawke, maybe the beginnings of Joko's rise to power and separation of Elona, or the seeds of Cantha's expulsion of lesser races. There's a very slim chance we may see the Foefire, but I doubt it.

The character's lifetime can potentially be gotten around by having players assume another identity (a la Kieran, BMP, etc.) - perhaps portrayed as "witnessing future events via a shared Seer vision" or something. I do recall reading somewhere that they were trying to puzzle out a way to allow us to see the Foefire, but as no one survived it, they're having to work out how to make that possible.

My guess would be that we might see some of the interim events AFTER launch of GW2 in the same sort of "reenacting" style of things like Chahbek Village and the like. I actually think that would be kind of cool. Realistically, much as I would love to get to see that sort of thing right away, I'd rather they focus their energies on getting GW2 to the shelves... I'm impatient. LOL

BrettM · Mar 25, 2011, 01:39 AM // 01:39

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Originally Posted by TheGizzy

I do recall reading somewhere that they were trying to puzzle out a way to allow us to see the Foefire, but as no one survived it, they're having to work out how to make that possible.

No HUMAN survived it. There were some charr witnesses tied to stakes outside Ascalon City. Hmmm.

thedeadlyassassin · Mar 25, 2011, 01:55 AM // 01:55

You know those books that came with EOTN if you reserved the game and bought it online? Maybe they will do that in Guild Wars 2?

vamp08 · Mar 25, 2011, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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Originally Posted by thedeadlyassassin

Have there been any ingame footage of the Elder Dragons from Anet? What is the foefire?

One of the newest GW2 vids shows an Elder Dragon swooping down in front of a party. It was Ebon black and composed of purple lightning.

Yes, this was in-game footage.

gremlin · Mar 25, 2011, 02:49 AM // 02:49

I guess they could use the pool in Eye to set up a plot line that would eventually lead to gw2.
There could be small signs that something strange is occurring and they could tie this to the different races that will eventually be playable in gw2.

There is quite a bit they could run with, maybe the dwarves will leave a few clues before they all disappear.
Also am not sure just when the Sylvari appear maybe some of them could show up now or are they all due to appear during the gw2 timeline.

Plenty of scope for them to play with.

T-D-C · Mar 25, 2011, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Originally Posted by vamp08

One of the newest GW2 vids shows an Elder Dragon swooping down in front of a party. It was Ebon black and composed of purple lightning.

Yes, this was in-game footage.

Actually that is The Shatterer and not an Elder Dragon. The Shatterer is a rank given to Kralkatorrik's lieutenant and champion. At any given time, there's only a single dragon of this rank; once a Shatterer dies, the title moves on to a different dragon[1]. In the first Guild Wars 2 playable demo, which premiered at the 2010 Gamescom, players could fight against the Shatterer at the Dragonbrand.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Shatterer

Kojima · Mar 25, 2011, 05:44 AM // 05:44

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Originally Posted by thedeadlyassassin

Have there been any ingame footage of the Elder Dragons from Anet? What is the foefire?

The event (spoiler) that has a direct effect to what happens to Ascalon and the Charr which I will not post here.

Bristlebane · Mar 25, 2011, 06:13 AM // 06:13

I would love to see some new Bonus Missions that will take place 250 years from now, halfways towards GW2. Either as one of your decendants (you must have a decendant, right..?), or perhaps Glint send you temporary to the future.

thedeadlyassassin · Mar 25, 2011, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Well, in the end of the EOTN campaign after you kill the Great Destroy, the dwarf monk (whatever his name is. Ogden or something) starts talking about what's to come. At the very end of the cutscene, you see Primordus awaken. Maybe something like that?

Iuris · Mar 25, 2011, 08:14 AM // 08:14

To create such an event would take a massive amount of resources, so I doubt Anet will go that far:
-creating a dragon model (ie, a huge dragon rising and flying and so on)
-changing the terrain (ie, a grothmar wardowns without the dragon)

Also, it's rather early for that, what with our characters needing town to find mates, settle down, raise some kids etc. Things that take years.

What I'd expect is the stuff leading up to these events but not the events themselves. It's much easier to add in a few quests that show, for example, loremasters studying a series of earthquakes who then find out the earthquakes are the movements of a sleeping dragon than it'd be to actually show the movements of the dragon.

Odinius · Mar 25, 2011, 08:24 AM // 08:24

Maybe we can encounter one of the those events through the scrying pool in our HoM.

TheGizzy · Mar 25, 2011, 12:21 PM // 12:21

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Originally Posted by BrettM

No HUMAN survived it. There were some charr witnesses tied to stakes outside Ascalon City. Hmmm.

Ooooooooo! Good point!!

*Darcy* · Mar 25, 2011, 02:15 PM // 14:15

For info on foefire without introducing spoilers in this forum http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Foefire
and for other GW2 events know to fans. The gw2 wiki is up to date.

We just need to wait and see what ArenaNet produces. Right now they are working on Cantha story.

Painbringer · Mar 25, 2011, 05:35 PM // 17:35

Its still only on Radar on PC gamer so we are looking at 9-? months away.

I am sure it will happen its just won't be till we get closer

Swingline · Mar 26, 2011, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by BrettM

No HUMAN survived it. There were some charr witnesses tied to stakes outside Ascalon City. Hmmm.

What will probably happen(if it does happen) is our characters will escape or just not witness it but we the players will through a cut scene.

Mar 25, 2011, 01:10 AM // 01:10	#1
thedeadlyassassin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tualatin OR Guild: N/A Profession: A/W	Guild Wars 2 in Guild Wars 1? I read something awhile back that said ArenaNet plans on having "events" in Guild Wars 1 to coincide with the events in Guild Wars 2 (lore wise). Just thought I'd mention now this thread will have some lore for Guild Wars 2, so consider this a "Spoiler" alert So, we all know that Kralkatorrik is sleeping in Grothmar Wardowns and flies down to the Tomb of Prevail Kings, leaving a "scar" in the earth. We also know that Primordus awakens where the Great Destroyer was slain. We also know that Zhaitan's awakening raises the kingdom of Orr. However, we also know that Guild Wars 2 takes place 250 years after the death of the Great Destroyer. There are also events such as the planting of the Pale Tree in Arbor Bay, which you can visit. Also the human WiK Civil War. These are somewhat events that we can take part in or go and view. So, my question is, does anyone know if we'll get to see more? I can't remember where I read about these possibly being true, but it would be pretty cool if players could maybe take part of a mysterious problem in Grothmar Wardowns and have a cutscene in which the dragon awakens or something. PS: Sorry if this is the wrong section. Don't know where else I'd put it.

Mar 25, 2011, 01:18 AM // 01:18	#2
sykoone Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Mystical Chaos Profession: E/	Looking at the timeline, there's few events that will take place during our character's lifetime. Kralkatorrik's awakening won't take place for a couple hundred years, and I don't think Zhiatan's arrival will happen much sooner than that. About all we can hope to see is the formation of Ebonhawke, maybe the beginnings of Joko's rise to power and separation of Elona, or the seeds of Cantha's expulsion of lesser races. There's a very slim chance we may see the Foefire, but I doubt it.

Mar 25, 2011, 01:29 AM // 01:29	#3
thedeadlyassassin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tualatin OR Guild: N/A Profession: A/W	Have there been any ingame footage of the Elder Dragons from Anet? What is the foefire?

Mar 25, 2011, 01:55 AM // 01:55	#6
thedeadlyassassin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tualatin OR Guild: N/A Profession: A/W	You know those books that came with EOTN if you reserved the game and bought it online? Maybe they will do that in Guild Wars 2?

Mar 25, 2011, 02:49 AM // 02:49	#8
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	I guess they could use the pool in Eye to set up a plot line that would eventually lead to gw2. There could be small signs that something strange is occurring and they could tie this to the different races that will eventually be playable in gw2. There is quite a bit they could run with, maybe the dwarves will leave a few clues before they all disappear. Also am not sure just when the Sylvari appear maybe some of them could show up now or are they all due to appear during the gw2 timeline. Plenty of scope for them to play with.

Mar 25, 2011, 06:13 AM // 06:13	#11
Bristlebane Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2008 Profession: Mo/	I would love to see some new Bonus Missions that will take place 250 years from now, halfways towards GW2. Either as one of your decendants (you must have a decendant, right..?), or perhaps Glint send you temporary to the future.

Mar 25, 2011, 06:42 AM // 06:42	#12
thedeadlyassassin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tualatin OR Guild: N/A Profession: A/W	Well, in the end of the EOTN campaign after you kill the Great Destroy, the dwarf monk (whatever his name is. Ogden or something) starts talking about what's to come. At the very end of the cutscene, you see Primordus awaken. Maybe something like that?

Mar 25, 2011, 08:14 AM // 08:14	#13
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	To create such an event would take a massive amount of resources, so I doubt Anet will go that far: -creating a dragon model (ie, a huge dragon rising and flying and so on) -changing the terrain (ie, a grothmar wardowns without the dragon) Also, it's rather early for that, what with our characters needing town to find mates, settle down, raise some kids etc. Things that take years. What I'd expect is the stuff leading up to these events but not the events themselves. It's much easier to add in a few quests that show, for example, loremasters studying a series of earthquakes who then find out the earthquakes are the movements of a sleeping dragon than it'd be to actually show the movements of the dragon.

Mar 25, 2011, 08:24 AM // 08:24	#14
Odinius Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Netherlands Guild: [OBEY] Profession: N/R	Maybe we can encounter one of the those events through the scrying pool in our HoM.

Mar 25, 2011, 02:15 PM // 14:15	#16
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	For info on foefire without introducing spoilers in this forum http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Foefire and for other GW2 events know to fans. The gw2 wiki is up to date. We just need to wait and see what ArenaNet produces. Right now they are working on Cantha story.

Mar 25, 2011, 05:35 PM // 17:35	#17
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	Its still only on Radar on PC gamer so we are looking at 9-? months away. I am sure it will happen its just won't be till we get closer