Question regarding 55 Monk Build - Guild Wars Forums

Magnus Azariel · May 26, 2011, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Hello everyone,
I currently main a Dervish with Monk as sub class. I'm trying to work with the 55 Monk build, but I'm stuck at which Armor to use. I can't buy anything from LA (Vendor sells nothing) or Monastary (Not on my map). Anything I can buy in Kamadan is over 25+ Armor and for Dervish only. This is problematic for me, considering the guides say to buy Ascetic set. If anyone can explain to me how thats possible as a Nightfall Dervish, I would be in your debt.
Thank you.

Calista Blackblood · May 26, 2011, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by Magnus Azariel

Hello everyone,
I currently main a Dervish with Monk as sub class. I'm trying to work with the 55 Monk build, but I'm stuck at which Armor to use.

55 Monk on a Dervish?

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I can't buy anything from LA (Vendor sells nothing) or Monastary (Not on my map).

Neither of those campaigns have Dervish armor available and not being a monk,means you cannot purchase armor.

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Anything I can buy in Kamadan is over 25+ Armor and for Dervish only.

25AR is base armor level for a Dervish in Kamadan. Are you trying to buy Monk armor?

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This is problematic for me, considering the guides say to buy Ascetic set. If anyone can explain to me how thats possible as a Nightfall Dervish, I would be in your debt.
Thank you.

Ascetic armor is PvP only armor for Monks and you answered my last question.

Dervishes by default cannot get their health below 105 due to +30HP inherent,there were farming builds based on 105HP but I do believe that those have all been nerfed some time ago.

The guide you are reading is for a 55Monk, not 55 D/Mo

ele kid · May 26, 2011, 05:21 PM // 17:21

basically, when your playing a dervish character, you CANNOT buy armor for monks or any other profession and vice-versa.

drunk n angry · May 26, 2011, 05:44 PM // 17:44

when you play a 55hp monk build your armor rating doesnt apply... your not wanting to take massive ammounts of damage like you would if you were playing a 600 monk build...

with the 55 monk build it limits the ammount of damage and doesnt matter the amount dealt to you.

the 600 monk build you have to be able to take enough damage to trigger the skills that will heal you over the damage amount.

so you can use your 15k derv armor as long as you get your hp down to 55hp your golden.... best luck to ya mate.

Ghull Ka · May 26, 2011, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Drunk N Angry got it right.

You're not seeing the "Aescetics" armor or other available armors at Lion's Arch because you're a Dervish. You can't buy Dervish armor in Lion's Arch. The guide you're reading assumes that you're a monk.

The armor rating on your armor is not a factor if you are using a "55" build. These builds don't rely on any mechanics which deal with your armor rating. These builds usually involve Protective Spirit reducing all damage packets to -5's, and then stacking tons of health regen to overcome those -5's. You can wear any armor at all for these builds.

The armor rating on your armor is a BIG factor if you are using a "600" build. These builds rely on you taking over X damage, so that Spirit Bond triggers a heal. Protective Spirit is still used, so the "post-Prot-math" damage packets are still small, but the "pre-Prot-math" damage packets must be very large for Spirit Bond to work. These builds usually have you wearing your "starter" armor, or low-rating Kamadan armor, and often going shirtless.

I won't comment on whether or not a 55-style build is effective with a Dervish, since I have no experience on that matter. Most folks use Monk primaries for 55 farms, from what I've seen, but since I'm not an expert on any of that, I'll shut right up.

:-)

darthlight · May 26, 2011, 06:19 PM // 18:19

55 hp is not possible with a Dervish primary because of the inherent +25 hp chest piece, 130 hp is the lowest a Dervish can achieve using a scythe (80 hp using an one-handed weapon and the -50 hp Grim Cesta)

As indicated in the previous posts, the lowest armor rating is 25 for Dervishes (The Istani and Sunspear armors from Kamandan).

For further information, there's a build on PvX for 130hp Dervish here.

Armor rating is a big factor if you want skills like Spirit Bond to heal yourself. (The lowest possible armor will almost guarantee that every attack received will be more than 60 dmg)

Magnus Azariel · May 26, 2011, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Thanks for all the responses. I was falsely believing that 55 Monk build could be used as a secondary monk. This also explains why I couldn't find monk armor in cities. Guess I'll be making myself a monk.

Godess Charmaine · May 27, 2011, 03:42 AM // 03:42

If you are planing to make a monk just to run 55 build the quest first I would ask is what are you planing on farming as the build really is limited these days to a few areas i find.

Gone are the days or 55 uw so not much point to it really a sos rit is more diversabel then a 55 monk in my mind.

cheers

May 26, 2011, 04:03 PM // 16:03	#1
Magnus Azariel Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2011 Profession: D/Mo	Question regarding 55 Monk Build Hello everyone, I currently main a Dervish with Monk as sub class. I'm trying to work with the 55 Monk build, but I'm stuck at which Armor to use. I can't buy anything from LA (Vendor sells nothing) or Monastary (Not on my map). Anything I can buy in Kamadan is over 25+ Armor and for Dervish only. This is problematic for me, considering the guides say to buy Ascetic set. If anyone can explain to me how thats possible as a Nightfall Dervish, I would be in your debt. Thank you.

May 26, 2011, 05:21 PM // 17:21	#3
ele kid Jungle Guide Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Guild: [Lost] Profession: A/	basically, when your playing a dervish character, you CANNOT buy armor for monks or any other profession and vice-versa.

May 26, 2011, 05:44 PM // 17:44	#4
drunk n angry Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in a quiet little town that i love. Guild: Ancient Dragoons [AGED] Profession: W/	when you play a 55hp monk build your armor rating doesnt apply... your not wanting to take massive ammounts of damage like you would if you were playing a 600 monk build... with the 55 monk build it limits the ammount of damage and doesnt matter the amount dealt to you. the 600 monk build you have to be able to take enough damage to trigger the skills that will heal you over the damage amount. so you can use your 15k derv armor as long as you get your hp down to 55hp your golden.... best luck to ya mate.

May 26, 2011, 06:03 PM // 18:03	#5
Ghull Ka Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Guild: Grenths Helpdesk Profession: N/	Drunk N Angry got it right. You're not seeing the "Aescetics" armor or other available armors at Lion's Arch because you're a Dervish. You can't buy Dervish armor in Lion's Arch. The guide you're reading assumes that you're a monk. The armor rating on your armor is not a factor if you are using a "55" build. These builds don't rely on any mechanics which deal with your armor rating. These builds usually involve Protective Spirit reducing all damage packets to -5's, and then stacking tons of health regen to overcome those -5's. You can wear any armor at all for these builds. The armor rating on your armor is a BIG factor if you are using a "600" build. These builds rely on you taking over X damage, so that Spirit Bond triggers a heal. Protective Spirit is still used, so the "post-Prot-math" damage packets are still small, but the "pre-Prot-math" damage packets must be very large for Spirit Bond to work. These builds usually have you wearing your "starter" armor, or low-rating Kamadan armor, and often going shirtless. I won't comment on whether or not a 55-style build is effective with a Dervish, since I have no experience on that matter. Most folks use Monk primaries for 55 farms, from what I've seen, but since I'm not an expert on any of that, I'll shut right up. :-)

May 26, 2011, 06:19 PM // 18:19	#6
darthlight Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005	55 hp is not possible with a Dervish primary because of the inherent +25 hp chest piece, 130 hp is the lowest a Dervish can achieve using a scythe (80 hp using an one-handed weapon and the -50 hp Grim Cesta) As indicated in the previous posts, the lowest armor rating is 25 for Dervishes (The Istani and Sunspear armors from Kamandan). For further information, there's a build on PvX for 130hp Dervish here. Armor rating is a big factor if you want skills like Spirit Bond to heal yourself. (The lowest possible armor will almost guarantee that every attack received will be more than 60 dmg)

May 26, 2011, 11:16 PM // 23:16	#7
Magnus Azariel Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2011 Profession: D/Mo	Thanks for all the responses. I was falsely believing that 55 Monk build could be used as a secondary monk. This also explains why I couldn't find monk armor in cities. Guess I'll be making myself a monk.

May 27, 2011, 03:42 AM // 03:42	#8
Godess Charmaine Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2010 Guild: Deth Profession: Mo/	If you are planing to make a monk just to run 55 build the quest first I would ask is what are you planing on farming as the build really is limited these days to a few areas i find. Gone are the days or 55 uw so not much point to it really a sos rit is more diversabel then a 55 monk in my mind. cheers