Running 2 gw clients, same IP, problem? - Guild Wars Forums

Evil_Necro · Jun 30, 2011, 07:20 AM // 07:20

Hi all,

I heard about someone got mistakenly banned due to running 2 gw clients under the same roof, or something similar like that long time ago. I just recently having a luxury to get another mini laptop for myself and also blessed with 2 accounts. I got some stuffs that I wanted to transfer to my main account, mainly weapons and ectos that I stored a long time ago.

The question is, is it safe to do this? Is there anything I can do in order to avoid getting flagged/banned?

Thank you in advance.

kaylaaka · Jun 30, 2011, 07:42 AM // 07:42

Multi-clienting is safe. Gaile Gray confirmed this. cba to dig up the post from wiki though.

**cosyfiep** · Jun 30, 2011, 08:11 AM // 08:11

my husband and I both play from the same ip--have been doing so for almost 6 years now...I also have it installed on another computer ...which I use to run my mules around (on a 2nd account I have).....LOTS of families play--so yeah, no problems with that.

akelarumi · Jun 30, 2011, 08:46 AM // 08:46

Yes it is safe. The only story I heard was when 1 family member was doing things against the EULA. Though Anet was sensitive to that situation and the other family members kept their access to the game.

So playing on the same IP is no problem at all. If one person on the IP is doing illegal activity's (botting, scamming, goldselling, exploit hacking), be aware that all accounts on that IP can be subject to investigation.

BogusDude · Jun 30, 2011, 08:53 AM // 08:53

You will not get ANet confirming your ok to use it as it breaches the ToS. However it is common knowledge that programmes like gwx2 are ok to use providing you are not using it to gain an unfair advantage. So if your using it for muling your pretty much 99.9% guaranteed not to have any problems. If you box 2 accounts running elite areas and dungeons, ie 600 smite with you using the 2nd account to bond and collect what would have been a hero's drops then your gaining an unfair advantage and shouldn't be surprised if you get banned, many get away with it but they do run the risk of a ban if caught. They're pretty experienced at recognising bots/boxers against legitmate users like families in the data trends and reserve the right to stand by their own judgement.

Spiritz · Jun 30, 2011, 09:57 AM // 09:57

It should be fine as im sure in the world there are places like internet cafe`s that allow online games to be played and that will have same ip.
Also like many others my wife and myself use 2 pcs for our accounts and a few times shes been on and ive been running duel clients on my pc and been fine - and thats 3 instances of same ip.

Best thing to do if in doubt is visit support and send an email with your questions or use the new support forum from gw website and they will be able to give you an answer .

-Makai- · Jun 30, 2011, 10:07 AM // 10:07

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If you box 2 accounts running elite areas and dungeons, ie 600 smite with you using the 2nd account to bond and collect what would have been a hero's drops then your gaining an unfair advantage and shouldn't be surprised if you get banned, many get away with it but they do run the risk of a ban if caught.

I have never, ever heard of this happening. Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?

BogusDude · Jun 30, 2011, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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I have never, ever heard of this happening. Do you have any evidence to back up this claim?

sorry but its 11.30am here and i just came off night shift so well and truely ready for bed lol not gonna search all day...but, if you find the original Gaile statement (not sure if it was here or wiki) there was something to that effect in her statement too i think

PS i don't think they would pick you up automatically rather follow you manually and monitor as with bots, so the risk of getting caught is probably minimal but still there. Don't act like a bot and you likely won't arouse suspicion. But if your using 2 accounts to do the same farm as me with one and getting twice as many drops that is an unfair advantage. I use gwx2 for my own mule accounts btw

BladeDVD · Jun 30, 2011, 10:56 AM // 10:56

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You will not get ANet confirming your ok to use it as it breaches the ToS.

What part of the ToS doesn't allow running two accounts from one IP?

Anet staff have said in the past that the unmoddified versions of programs like GW Multilaunch and TexMod are ok, but they are not supported. Meaning two things: 1. make sure you download a valid copy as some sites will piggyback malicious code to these programs; 2. if it breaks your game Support won't help you fix it.

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If you box 2 accounts running elite areas and dungeons, ie 600 smite with you using the 2nd account to bond and collect what would have been a hero's drops then your gaining an unfair advantage and shouldn't be surprised if you get banned, many get away with it but they do run the risk of a ban if caught.

As long as you are running two (or more) valid accounts, you are no more restricted in playing them by the ToS than someone running just one account.

I've had two accounts for over four years and frequently ran them together on two computers (desktop and a laptop right next to each other) so that I could drag along a second account. People do this all the time and constantly talk about doing it in fan forums like this and on the official wiki. There's a whole thread on this forum about GW ML. Guru regularly shuts down threads that talk about exploits that break the ToS, and yet this thread is still open and has just over 300 posts in it.

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But if your using 2 accounts to do the same farm as me with one and getting twice as many drops that is an unfair advantage. I use gwx2 for my own mule accounts btw

Each account is getting their own (random) share of drops. How is that unfair? The only "unfair" thing I see here is being able to afford the real world cost of multiple valid accounts, but that's not against the ToS.

To the OP, check out the thread I linked in the paragraph above. GW ML is what you are looking for if your PC is strong enough to run it. I regularly have two copies playing on my new home PC and it's been a real benefit for moving all the crap I tend to hold on to (I have 22 or so characters over two accounts, and most of their inventories are full, lol).

*Darcy* · Jun 30, 2011, 11:35 AM // 11:35

The only situation that caused a problem with ArenaNet was in PvP. Using two accounts to give yourself easy wins is not allowed. No, I don't know how that worked because I don't PvP. But I do remember some mention of that in the past.

It's the normal ANet stance. Don't cheat. Using two accounts on the same computer is not cheating if it's just the normal storage swaps or similar.

Bellatrixa · Jun 30, 2011, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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The only situation that caused a problem with ArenaNet was in PvP. Using two accounts to give yourself easy wins is not allowed. No, I don't know how that worked because I don't PvP. But I do remember some mention of that in the past.

Counts as match-fixing I believe. The only time I've hopped on both my accounts when PvPing is if I want to scout what teams are forming in HA when I'm already in or if I'm waiting for a match in HA and someone wants something off my other account. It's been tempting for us to get on mules and make another team for us to face when halls are dead but we all know it's not worth losing accounts over.

Chthon · Jun 30, 2011, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Of course it's fine. From a-net's side they have no way of telling how many machines are behind a NAT (or even how many NATs are behind a NAT).

BogusDude · Jun 30, 2011, 06:09 PM // 18:09

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