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kevin32 · Aug 12, 2012, 10:05 AM // 10:05

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Edge_of_Extinction

is this stackable? meaning if 2 EOEs exist for my team, is damage doubled?

akelarumi · Aug 12, 2012, 10:22 AM // 10:22

EoE is a spirit and therefore this quote from the wiki applies:

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Two allied spirits of the same type cannot exist within each other's range; if a second spirit is summoned by any ally within the spirit's range, it will destroy and replace the first spirit, triggering any end effects of those spirits.

So you can't have two of them active in the same time and so damage can't be doubled.

in short. No it won't work

Bristlebane · Aug 12, 2012, 11:48 AM // 11:48

While it's true what akelarumi says, technically it's possible to place two EoE affecting the same target as long as they far enough from each other. However it might be a bit impractical to try do this setup for regular play. I suspect this would cause double damage as the spirits would individually affect the same group of foes.

Olle · Aug 12, 2012, 12:54 PM // 12:54

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Originally Posted by Bristlebane

While it's true what akelarumi says, technically it's possible to place two EoE affecting the same target as long as they far enough from each other. However it might be a bit impractical to try do this setup for regular play. I suspect this would cause double damage as the spirits would individually affect the same group of foes.

It wount double the damage.

Captain Bulldozer · Aug 12, 2012, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by Olle

It wount double the damage.

Seconded... My guild/alliance has tried this a few times vs Urgoz and the damage remained the same. It seems like the damage coming from EoE is treated in the same way as Hex damage, the most immediate effect takes place but any others are ignored.

Quaker · Aug 12, 2012, 02:44 PM // 14:44

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Originally Posted by Bristlebane

While it's true what akelarumi says, technically it's possible to place two EoE affecting the same target as long as they far enough from each other.

If you could explain how two EoE could be in range of the same target and yet not within range of each other.

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods · Aug 12, 2012, 04:44 PM // 16:44

^ Easy, have them within spirit range on opposite sides of the target you wish to affect. So in the case of Urgoz, have one in front of him, and then one 180 degrees around him, the same distance. My guess is that the stronger EoE will take effect, and if they're equally strong, it doesn't make a difference.

akelarumi · Aug 12, 2012, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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Originally Posted by Quaker

If you could explain how two EoE could be in range of the same target and yet not within range of each other.

spirit range is a circle so check out this image:

Bristlebane · Aug 12, 2012, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer

It seems like the damage coming from EoE is treated in the same way as Hex damage, the most immediate effect takes place but any others are ignored.

Yes that makes sense. Haven't played GW in a year or so but I should have thought of this from the beginning, especially since the nature ritual effects shows an icon for affected targets. However we know everything in GW1 is not always 100% logical so when in doubt, try it out

Of course by this time, everything in game that could have been tried out probably has already.

Captain Bulldozer · Aug 12, 2012, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by Mortal Amongst Mere Gods

^ Easy, have them within spirit range on opposite sides of the target you wish to affect. So in the case of Urgoz, have one in front of him, and then one 180 degrees around him, the same distance. My guess is that the stronger EoE will take effect, and if they're equally strong, it doesn't make a difference.

As I recall, we actually managed to have 3 or 4 EoE's up and on him at once (Urgoz's chamber is big enough for it). That was how we could be absolutely sure the damage wasn't increasing with additional spirits... we though two might not be enough to notice since his health is so high to begin with.

Winner · Aug 13, 2012, 08:37 AM // 08:37

No. They do not stack. You can only have one effect of the EoE applied at the same time. It doesn't matter if you're in range of one or 100 EoE spirits, You still only have one EoE icon "buff" on you.

Quaker · Aug 13, 2012, 02:49 PM // 14:49

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Originally Posted by Mortal Amongst Mere Gods

^ Easy, have them within spirit range on opposite sides of the target you wish to affect. So in the case of Urgoz, have one in front of him, and then one 180 degrees around him, the same distance. My guess is that the stronger EoE will take effect, and if they're equally strong, it doesn't make a difference.

If they're both within range of Urgoz, they must both be in range of each other. Therefore, one will die. It's basic geometry.

Snograt · Aug 13, 2012, 04:35 PM // 16:35

I've only been in urgoz's room once, so I can't remember how big it is - although "not very" springs to mind. Overlapping spirit aoes certainly occur - just follow any patrolling group of wardens in kurzickland to see this - but as said before, you just get the effect once.

Captain Bulldozer · Aug 13, 2012, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Originally Posted by Quaker

If they're both within range of Urgoz, they must both be in range of each other. Therefore, one will die. It's basic geometry.

I'm afraid you're ignoring what, in mathematics, is called the "Triangle Inequality" (feel free to google it if you want). Basically, if d(a,b) represents the distance between point a and point b, you have d(a,b) is less than or equal to d(a,c)+d(c,b) for any other point c. Or, you could take a look at akelarumi's picture up above

Aug 12, 2012, 10:05 AM // 10:05	#1
kevin32 Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2011	edge of extinction question http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Edge_of_Extinction is this stackable? meaning if 2 EOEs exist for my team, is damage doubled?

Aug 13, 2012, 04:35 PM // 16:35	#13
Snograt rattus rattus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK GMT??0 ??1hr DST Guild: [GURU]GW [wiki]GW2 Profession: R/	I've only been in urgoz's room once, so I can't remember how big it is - although "not very" springs to mind. Overlapping spirit aoes certainly occur - just follow any patrolling group of wardens in kurzickland to see this - but as said before, you just get the effect once. __________________ Si non confectus, non reficiat

Aug 12, 2012, 11:48 AM // 11:48	#3
Bristlebane Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2008 Profession: Mo/	While it's true what akelarumi says, technically it's possible to place two EoE affecting the same target as long as they far enough from each other. However it might be a bit impractical to try do this setup for regular play. I suspect this would cause double damage as the spirits would individually affect the same group of foes.

Aug 12, 2012, 04:44 PM // 16:44	#7
Mortal Amongst Mere Gods Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Riding the spiral Profession: W/	^ Easy, have them within spirit range on opposite sides of the target you wish to affect. So in the case of Urgoz, have one in front of him, and then one 180 degrees around him, the same distance. My guess is that the stronger EoE will take effect, and if they're equally strong, it doesn't make a difference.

Aug 13, 2012, 08:37 AM // 08:37	#11
Winner Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2012 Profession: W/Mo	No. They do not stack. You can only have one effect of the EoE applied at the same time. It doesn't matter if you're in range of one or 100 EoE spirits, You still only have one EoE icon "buff" on you.