Echo Nuker - Guild Wars Forums

xeo223 · Oct 31, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35

When I go to warcamp I always see groups looking for an echo nuker, I was wondering if anyone knew what one was? Or the difference between it and a regular nuker if there is any.

Cartoonhero · Oct 31, 2005, 09:57 PM // 21:57

and echo nuker is a e/me that uses the mesmer skill echo or arcane echo. it mimicks the next skill you cast, making you able to cast two powerful AoE spells in a row. another variation that works just as well is an e/(whatever you like), that uses the elite skill glyph of renewal. it instantly rehcarges the next skill you cast. thats what i use for my echo nuker.

Osirod · Oct 31, 2005, 10:00 PM // 22:00

echo is a mesmer skill which let you use 2 skills at the same time for 20 seconds, so you can use 2 meteor shower or 2 fire storm at the same time

AuronLore · Nov 01, 2005, 05:23 AM // 05:23

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Originally Posted by Cartoonhero

and echo nuker is a e/me that uses the mesmer skill echo or arcane echo. it mimicks the next skill you cast, making you able to cast two powerful AoE spells in a row. another variation that works just as well is an e/(whatever you like), that uses the elite skill glyph of renewal. it instantly rehcarges the next skill you cast. thats what i use for my echo nuker.

the glyph of renewal might act as an echo but once u use that spell again u r still wasting the same amount of energy again. so it lacks effectiveness in that department.

Kool Pajamas · Nov 01, 2005, 06:50 AM // 06:50

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Originally Posted by AuronLore

the glyph of renewal might act as an echo but once u use that spell again u r still wasting the same amount of energy again. so it lacks effectiveness in that department.

huh?

The only difference between echo and Glyph of Renewal is that echo takes 15 seconds longer to recharge and is an enchantment.

With Glyph of Renewal I can: cast glyph, meteor shower, meteor shower, glyph, fire storm, fire storm, glyph, meteor shower, meteor shower, etc.... (perhaps a slight time between fire storm #2 and glyph #3 where I use to recast fire attune)

with Echo its: echo, MS, MS, FS, wait.... or
echo, MS, MS, wait echo FS FS, wait, echo, MS, MS.....

Glyph of Renewal is much more efficient. And I dont have to worry about any enchant strippers stripping me while casting MS.

quickmonty · Nov 01, 2005, 11:50 AM // 11:50

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Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas

huh?
The only difference between echo and Glyph of Renewal is that echo takes 15 seconds longer to recharge and is an enchantment.

Glyph of Renewal is much more efficient. And I dont have to worry about any enchant strippers stripping me while casting MS.

Glyph with Arcane Echo FTW!

Glyph, meteor shower, archane, meteor shower, meteor shower, glyph, firestorm, firestorm.

Kool Pajamas · Nov 01, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by quickmonty

Glyph with Arcane Echo FTW!

Glyph, meteor shower, archane, meteor shower, meteor shower, glyph, firestorm, firestorm.

Yes that works if you really really need that extra meteor shower at the beginning, but usually by the time you are done with fire storm, both glyph and meteor shower are ready to go again. If it isnt then I recast fire attune and then it will be ready.

And you wont need a Me secondary. And arcane echo is another enchant that can be stripped and takes 2 seconds to cast so you could possibly be interupted.

Draken · Nov 01, 2005, 10:29 PM // 22:29

would like to make a point that glyph of renewal is better for spells with 10 seconds or greater recast time where as echo is better for spells with less than 10 and of course skills.

p.s. recast includes the casting time of the spell also because if echo ends while the spell is casting its cancled.

mikysee · Nov 02, 2005, 12:02 AM // 00:02

Which profession can use glyph of renewal?

Lasareth · Nov 02, 2005, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by mikysee

Which profession can use glyph of renewal?

Elementalist, and it's not linked with any attribute, so any profession subbing E can also use it to its fullest

Cartoonhero · Nov 02, 2005, 01:03 AM // 01:03

yes, and as my secondary i chose monk, so i can be an echo nuker and decently keep myself alive. glyph of renewal ftw!

Esuna · Nov 02, 2005, 06:18 AM // 06:18

If you're a Glyph user, you ain't an Echo Nuker, haha XD But yeah, I like using glyph instead of echo as well, because I can use it on any spell I want due to it's quick recharge. Sometimes you really don't need two huge nukeys in a row.. maybe you want to double inferno, or phoenix, or incendiary bonds. Quite useful, and you're not too limited to using it on one huge nuke, IMO. A friend says echo gives you 3 nukes in a row... but sometimes if you have another nuker in your group, 3 is really an overkill, especially on the energy.

What I like to do is this:

Cast Glyph of Renewal > Meteor Shower
Wait for Glyph to recharge, lose some exhaustion > Cast Fireball/Incendiary Bonds/Some non-exhausting spell(s) in between
Glyph of Renewal when it recharges > Meteor Shower again, if I even really need it. Then I could have casted 4 copies of meteor shower! =)

Sometimes I like to glyph fire attunement before going into battle, in case I get stripped :P

EF2NYD · Nov 02, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Glyph of Renewal > Echo/arcane echo

Cartoonhero · Nov 03, 2005, 02:00 AM // 02:00

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Originally Posted by Esuna

If you're a Glyph user, you ain't an Echo Nuker, haha XD

that was sarcasm right? getting kicked out of a group that is looking for an echo nuker because im not a mesmer secondary angers me. and they're missing out...cause imho..GLYPH is so much better than ECHO/ARCANE ECHO. meh.

CKaz · Nov 04, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45

yeah I don't bother telling the non-ele ingrates (or really anyone) who think they know all the classes, without playing them all, what is best.

yes I'm effectively (or even more effectively) an echo nuker w/glyph of renewal as it is now defined.

I really liked some dumb azz crunchy who kept dying while telling me to 'nke' 'noke' 'nuk' -
I fried everything, team did fine, he had 60dp..

guess I shoulda spent my time typing 'get outta the front line dumb azz'

party1 · Nov 04, 2005, 04:30 PM // 16:30

glyph nukers sux so much, they run out of energy quickly

arcane echo+ele attunement > glyph

Carnajo · Nov 04, 2005, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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Originally Posted by Cartoonhero

that was sarcasm right? getting kicked out of a group that is looking for an echo nuker because im not a mesmer secondary angers me. and they're missing out...cause imho..GLYPH is so much better than ECHO/ARCANE ECHO. meh.

People like that irritate me too, but there are sooo many. The game has more than 3 classes you know. Guess what, a Necro with arcane echo and spiteful can be a kick ass damage dealer as well!

Stop screaming for Maelstrom, and get an interupt ranger.

Dmitri3 · Nov 04, 2005, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by party1

glyph nukers sux so much, they run out of energy quickly

arcane echo+ele attunement > glyph

Explain me how arcane echo is better that glyph of renewal.
Because you sound like 5 years kid.

And how do you run out of energy with glyph? You can know you can use attunements with glyphs, do you?

Guizzy · Nov 04, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06

With Arcane Echo, Echo, Arcane Mimcry, a couple of Nukers could cast their skill four times each; ain't that simply a sexy idea to imagine?

Dmitri3 · Nov 04, 2005, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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Originally Posted by Guizzy

With Arcane Echo, Echo, Arcane Mimcry, a couple of Nukers could cast their skill four times each; ain't that simply a sexy idea to imagine?

It takes 3 slots, Glyph takes just one.

Oct 31, 2005, 09:35 PM // 21:35	#1
xeo223 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: TOYS Profession: E/Me	Echo Nuker When I go to warcamp I always see groups looking for an echo nuker, I was wondering if anyone knew what one was? Or the difference between it and a regular nuker if there is any.

Nov 04, 2005, 04:30 PM // 16:30	#16
party1 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: W/Mo	glyph nukers sux so much, they run out of energy quickly arcane echo+ele attunement > glyph Last edited by party1; Nov 04, 2005 at 04:37 PM // 16:37..

Oct 31, 2005, 09:57 PM // 21:57	#2
Cartoonhero Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sooner Nation Profession: Mo/	and echo nuker is a e/me that uses the mesmer skill echo or arcane echo. it mimicks the next skill you cast, making you able to cast two powerful AoE spells in a row. another variation that works just as well is an e/(whatever you like), that uses the elite skill glyph of renewal. it instantly rehcarges the next skill you cast. thats what i use for my echo nuker.

Oct 31, 2005, 10:00 PM // 22:00	#3
Osirod Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: M??xico Guild: Rabid Dogs From Hell Profession: W/Mo	echo is a mesmer skill which let you use 2 skills at the same time for 20 seconds, so you can use 2 meteor shower or 2 fire storm at the same time

Nov 01, 2005, 10:29 PM // 22:29	#8
Draken Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: The Exiled	would like to make a point that glyph of renewal is better for spells with 10 seconds or greater recast time where as echo is better for spells with less than 10 and of course skills. p.s. recast includes the casting time of the spell also because if echo ends while the spell is casting its cancled.

Nov 02, 2005, 12:02 AM // 00:02	#9
mikysee Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2005	Which profession can use glyph of renewal?

Nov 02, 2005, 01:03 AM // 01:03	#11
Cartoonhero Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sooner Nation Profession: Mo/	yes, and as my secondary i chose monk, so i can be an echo nuker and decently keep myself alive. glyph of renewal ftw!

Nov 02, 2005, 06:18 AM // 06:18	#12
Esuna Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NYC Guild: Squee Squeeeeeeeeeeeeee [yay] Profession: Mo/	If you're a Glyph user, you ain't an Echo Nuker, haha XD But yeah, I like using glyph instead of echo as well, because I can use it on any spell I want due to it's quick recharge. Sometimes you really don't need two huge nukeys in a row.. maybe you want to double inferno, or phoenix, or incendiary bonds. Quite useful, and you're not too limited to using it on one huge nuke, IMO. A friend says echo gives you 3 nukes in a row... but sometimes if you have another nuker in your group, 3 is really an overkill, especially on the energy. What I like to do is this: Cast Glyph of Renewal > Meteor Shower Wait for Glyph to recharge, lose some exhaustion > Cast Fireball/Incendiary Bonds/Some non-exhausting spell(s) in between Glyph of Renewal when it recharges > Meteor Shower again, if I even really need it. Then I could have casted 4 copies of meteor shower! =) Sometimes I like to glyph fire attunement before going into battle, in case I get stripped :P

Nov 02, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34	#13
EF2NYD Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005	Glyph of Renewal > Echo/arcane echo

Nov 04, 2005, 03:45 PM // 15:45	#15
CKaz Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2005	yeah I don't bother telling the non-ele ingrates (or really anyone) who think they know all the classes, without playing them all, what is best. yes I'm effectively (or even more effectively) an echo nuker w/glyph of renewal as it is now defined. I really liked some dumb azz crunchy who kept dying while telling me to 'nke' 'noke' 'nuk' - I fried everything, team did fine, he had 60dp.. guess I shoulda spent my time typing 'get outta the front line dumb azz'

Nov 04, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06	#19
Guizzy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Quebec Profession: Me/E	With Arcane Echo, Echo, Arcane Mimcry, a couple of Nukers could cast their skill four times each; ain't that simply a sexy idea to imagine?