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Lord Snow · Nov 29, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57

What do you guys think?

Is it worth keeping this shield? Or should I start looking around for another one? (primarily PvE for the moment)

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 29, 2005, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by Lord Snow

What do you guys think?

Is it worth keeping this shield? Or should I start looking around for another one? (primarily PvE for the moment)

My god! I've never seen a shield with multiple things requiring so DAMN MUCH in each =) Yes, I'd get rid of it, go for a straight Tactics or Strength shield. I've seen some nice +45 -2 ench or at least -2 ench, heck, even some base shields are nice. But that shield requires too much in each to get all of it's benefits..cool idea, bad execution.

--The Shim

Hot Dead · Nov 29, 2005, 09:03 PM // 21:03

You need at least 3 attributes to be able to use this shield nicely, either sell it or use it on a warrior that has 10 tactics, 8 strength, and 8 swords/axemastery

I would sell it if I was you

ApOcAlYpSe · Nov 29, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Yea this is one of the preorder items. Pretty much worthless. Id get rid of it and get the crimson carapace shield from the collector(dont remember where he is). Its a lot better.

eom · Nov 29, 2005, 09:06 PM // 21:06

there's nothing wrong w/it if he already happens to use str/tactics.

I keep about 3 shields on me and switch them around.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 29, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11

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Originally Posted by eom

there's nothing wrong w/it if he already happens to use str/tactics.

I keep about 3 shields on me and switch them around.

Using both strength and tactics will kill a warrior. Why? Because he could have been maxing one when he spent the points in the other. I've played a warrior as my main all my life, and if I have anything in tactics, I never have anything but my +2 in strength because of my rune. I'd NEVER on ANY occasion keep them both full of attributes. Why?

1> Tactics is defense/stancing. Aka reducing their effectiveness of melee/ranged attacks

2> Strength is for armor penatration and doing damage. Quite the opposit of what tactics was designed to do.

If you put lets say, 10 into both, your skill bar is going to be a mess of stances/running skills/damage skills. I'm not including a second profession in this, just a warrior primary.

Using both when you don't need it, is wasting the possibility of those attributes NOW being used for something other, like weapon masteries.
I doubt any sensical warrior is going to go 10+tact/10+str/10+weapon masteries just to get the benefits...from..that shield.

my 2 cents.

--The Shim

DeanBB · Nov 29, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Notice that it is customized so selling is not an option. I like it, wish I had one...

eom · Nov 29, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18

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Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven

Using both strength and tactics will kill a warrior. Why? Because he could have been maxing one when he spent the points in the other. I've played a warrior as my main all my life, and if I have anything in tactics, I never have anything but my +2 in strength because of my rune. I'd NEVER on ANY occasion keep them both full of attributes. Why?

1> Tactics is defense/stancing. Aka reducing their effectiveness of melee/ranged attacks

2> Strength is for armor penatration and doing damage. Quite the opposit of what tactics was designed to do.

If you put lets say, 10 into both, your skill bar is going to be a mess of stances/running skills/damage skills. I'm not including a second profession in this, just a warrior primary.

Using both when you don't need it, is wasting the possibility of those attributes NOW being used for something other, like weapon masteries.
I doubt any sensical warrior is going to go 10+tact/10+str/10+weapon masteries just to get the benefits...from..that shield.

my 2 cents.

--The Shim

think you posted your 2 cents in the wrong thread.

this belongs in the build forum.

ps

it would seem to me that any warrior is going to have a high weapon level, so I have no idea what that has to do w/it.
but maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
your post is overvalued.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 29, 2005, 09:20 PM // 21:20

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Originally Posted by eom

think you posted your 2 cents in the wrong thread.

this belongs in the build forum.

ps

it would seem to me that any warrior is going to have a high weapon level, so I have no idea what that has to do w/it.
but maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
your post is overvalued.

It doesn't belong in the build forum when it pertains to the original thread. I was explaining to you <I hope you didn't take it the wrong way> how to effectively run a shield warrior. I was stating for the fact of the matter is you'll barely ever see a warrior with those skill lines I mentioned. I post only for the benefit of others in this forum :P

--The Shim

eom · Nov 29, 2005, 09:37 PM // 21:37

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Originally Posted by Shimus DarkRaven

I was explaining to you ...how to effectively run a shield warrior.

--The Shim

split and move to build forum, plz.

dargon · Nov 29, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55

It's a preorder item, you can discard it into your trash can and get it back later by using the /preorder command in your chat window.

quickmonty · Nov 30, 2005, 12:00 AM // 00:00

It would be a good shield for a runner.

Lord Snow · Nov 30, 2005, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Thanks for the feedback guys.

I'm currently running around with like 8 str, 12 swords, and 9 tactics so I thought it wouldn't be too bad. My curent shield is 16AL req 9 tactics with +7 vs piercing and I'm not sure which to use for the most part haha.

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Originally Posted by dargon

It's a preorder item, you can discard it into your trash can and get it back later by using the /preorder command in your chat window.

Really?? O.o

eom · Nov 30, 2005, 02:36 AM // 02:36

ok, besides the fact that shimus really hates your build, you're basically looking at a small energy + 30 health vs armor tradeoff, I guess, right?

it is kind of tough, and I think I would base my decision on a couple things --- what are you fighting (if they use piercing, I'd go w/the other one one), and do you have a problem getting killed off a lot (I'd use this one).

generally speaking, I'd advocate armor over health, and I wouldn't drop your sword just to get another level of tactics to use a shield, so I'd probably lean towards the 16 you already had.
that extra 9 vs piercing would FAR outweigh the 30 health, imo, if you fight piercing.

rock on, my sword brother.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 30, 2005, 07:41 AM // 07:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by eom

ok, besides the fact that shimus really hates your build, you're basically looking at a small energy + 30 health vs armor tradeoff, I guess, right?

it is kind of tough, and I think I would base my decision on a couple things --- what are you fighting (if they use piercing, I'd go w/the other one one), and do you have a problem getting killed off a lot (I'd use this one).

generally speaking, I'd advocate armor over health, and I wouldn't drop your sword just to get another level of tactics to use a shield, so I'd probably lean towards the 16 you already had.
that extra 9 vs piercing would FAR outweigh the 30 health, imo, if you fight piercing.

rock on, my sword brother.

Negatory. I don't hate it, it's just not as effective as it could be ^_-

--The Shim

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 30, 2005, 07:43 AM // 07:43

Negative. I don't hate it; it's just not..well..lets say balanced to a build I'd use. In which case I give advice. But hey, if he plays it, and plays it well, it's not my place to say anything. I was merely suggesting that he'd be better off focusing on primarily 2 warrior lines and a secondary profession.

--The Shim

eom · Nov 30, 2005, 12:25 PM // 12:25

double post! ^^

ban, plz.

Yichi · Nov 30, 2005, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Actually for running around in PVE, thats a good shield. I know a few people that use that shield. still id rather have the prism over the shield.....

Lord Snow · Nov 30, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50

I like diversity, and yaaay, swords rock XD

But in regards to the topic at hand, I'm still undecided. But the fact that I can get it back at any time just by typing "/preorder" rocks XD

pegasux · Nov 30, 2005, 05:01 PM // 17:01

what in the world is preorder? Does it cost to get a weapon or armor that way? sorry noob here.

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Originally Posted by Lord Snow

I like diversity, and yaaay, swords rock XD

But in regards to the topic at hand, I'm still undecided. But the fact that I can get it back at any time just by typing "/preorder" rocks XD

Nov 29, 2005, 09:03 PM // 21:03	#3
Hot Dead Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005	You need at least 3 attributes to be able to use this shield nicely, either sell it or use it on a warrior that has 10 tactics, 8 strength, and 8 swords/axemastery I would sell it if I was you

Nov 29, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04	#4
ApOcAlYpSe Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2005	Yea this is one of the preorder items. Pretty much worthless. Id get rid of it and get the crimson carapace shield from the collector(dont remember where he is). Its a lot better.

Nov 29, 2005, 09:06 PM // 21:06	#5
eom Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/N	there's nothing wrong w/it if he already happens to use str/tactics. I keep about 3 shields on me and switch them around.

Nov 29, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12	#7
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	Notice that it is customized so selling is not an option. I like it, wish I had one...

Nov 29, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55	#11
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	It's a preorder item, you can discard it into your trash can and get it back later by using the /preorder command in your chat window.

Nov 30, 2005, 12:00 AM // 00:00	#12
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	It would be a good shield for a runner.

Nov 30, 2005, 02:36 AM // 02:36	#14
eom Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/N	ok, besides the fact that shimus really hates your build, you're basically looking at a small energy + 30 health vs armor tradeoff, I guess, right? it is kind of tough, and I think I would base my decision on a couple things --- what are you fighting (if they use piercing, I'd go w/the other one one), and do you have a problem getting killed off a lot (I'd use this one). generally speaking, I'd advocate armor over health, and I wouldn't drop your sword just to get another level of tactics to use a shield, so I'd probably lean towards the 16 you already had. that extra 9 vs piercing would FAR outweigh the 30 health, imo, if you fight piercing. rock on, my sword brother.

Nov 30, 2005, 07:43 AM // 07:43	#16
Shimus DarkRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Titusville, PA <nowhere> Guild: KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer> Profession: W/Mo	Negative. I don't hate it; it's just not..well..lets say balanced to a build I'd use. In which case I give advice. But hey, if he plays it, and plays it well, it's not my place to say anything. I was merely suggesting that he'd be better off focusing on primarily 2 warrior lines and a secondary profession. --The Shim

Nov 30, 2005, 12:25 PM // 12:25	#17
eom Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/N	double post! ^^ ban, plz.

Nov 30, 2005, 02:52 PM // 14:52	#18
Yichi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match... Guild: Dark Alley [dR]	Actually for running around in PVE, thats a good shield. I know a few people that use that shield. still id rather have the prism over the shield.....

Nov 30, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50	#19
Lord Snow Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/Mo	I like diversity, and yaaay, swords rock XD But in regards to the topic at hand, I'm still undecided. But the fact that I can get it back at any time just by typing "/preorder" rocks XD