who exactly does this skill target? - Guild Wars Forums

onyo · Mar 01, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01

guilt-For 11 seconds, the next time target foe casts a Spell that targets a foe, the Spell fails and you steal 14 Energy from that foe.

shame-For 11 seconds, the next time target foe casts a Spell that targets an ally, the Spell fails and you steal 14 Energy from that foe.

whos perspective is that? for guilt lets say, does it mean: next time target foe casts a Spell that targets a--> foe of the character who has guilt on him, or the guy who casted guilt's foes?

and same with shame

Ondo · Mar 01, 2006, 10:14 PM // 22:14

As I see it....
You cast Guilt on an Enemy Healer then when that healer cast a spell (like heal other) on one of his group the spell fails and you get the energy.

Shame -Enemy spellcasters - Necros, Mesmers, Elementals
You cast shame on them then they cast rotten flesh on one of your allies, it fails and you get the energy

RaabTheGuru · Mar 01, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Here's a simple scenario that might help:

Enemy A- Monk
Enemy B- Warrior
Enemy C- Mesmer

Guilt: Cast Guilt on Enemy C. Enemy C uses Conjure Phantasm and it targets you. Spell fails and you gain 14 energy.

Shame: Enemy A casts Healing Breeze on Enemy B. Spell fails and you gain 14 energy.

onyo · Mar 01, 2006, 10:34 PM // 22:34

k... you both said the opposite lol. which is correct?

RaabTheGuru · Mar 01, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Come on its not that hard.

Guilt: If you cast it on a foe, the next time that foe uses a spell that targets someone other than his ally, the spell fails and you gain 14 energy.

Shame: If you cast it on a foe, the next time that foe uses a skill that targets an ally of his, the spell fails and you gain 14 energy.

Just read the skill description slowly, it's not that difficult.

Kinroan · Mar 01, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35

no...they both said the same thing...Raab just broke it down...

Caged Fury · Mar 01, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38

I think it's from the caster's (i.e. your) perspective.

Guilt stops enemies from casting spells that would hurt you or your allies. So for Guilt, it's...For 11 seconds, the next time target foe (e.g. a Storm Kin) casts a Spell that targets a foe (you or your party members being the Storm Kin's foe), etc.

Shame stops enemies from casting spells that would heal, protect, or enchant their allies. So for Shame, it's...For 11 seconds, the next time target foe (e.g. Priest of Sorrows) casts a Spell that targets an ally (e.g. his nasty axe weilding Summit Deep Knight buddy), etc.

Clear as crystal or clear as mud?

Murder In China · Mar 02, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by onyo

guilt-For 11 seconds, the next time target foe casts a Spell that targets an ally of your's, the Spell fails and you steal 14 Energy from that foe.

shame-For 11 seconds, the next time target foe casts a Spell that targets an ally of their's, the Spell fails and you steal 14 Energy from that foe.

Re-worded

onyo · Mar 02, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56

k thanks. was confusing

Yanman.be · Mar 02, 2006, 09:58 PM // 21:58

look put shame on the monk, and guilt on the other casters..that works.
perio

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Mar 01, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01	#1
onyo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006	who exactly does this skill target? guilt-For 11 seconds, the next time target foe casts a Spell that targets a foe, the Spell fails and you steal 14 Energy from that foe. shame-For 11 seconds, the next time target foe casts a Spell that targets an ally, the Spell fails and you steal 14 Energy from that foe. whos perspective is that? for guilt lets say, does it mean: next time target foe casts a Spell that targets a--> foe of the character who has guilt on him, or the guy who casted guilt's foes? and same with shame

Mar 02, 2006, 09:58 PM // 21:58	#10
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	look put shame on the monk, and guilt on the other casters..that works. perio.

Mar 01, 2006, 10:14 PM // 22:14	#2
Ondo Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Guild: Heavenly Shadows [milf] Profession: W/R	As I see it.... You cast Guilt on an Enemy Healer then when that healer cast a spell (like heal other) on one of his group the spell fails and you get the energy. Shame -Enemy spellcasters - Necros, Mesmers, Elementals You cast shame on them then they cast rotten flesh on one of your allies, it fails and you get the energy

Mar 01, 2006, 10:15 PM // 22:15	#3
RaabTheGuru Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southern California Guild: Wizards Anomyous [WoA] Profession: N/Me	Here's a simple scenario that might help: Enemy A- Monk Enemy B- Warrior Enemy C- Mesmer Guilt: Cast Guilt on Enemy C. Enemy C uses Conjure Phantasm and it targets you. Spell fails and you gain 14 energy. Shame: Enemy A casts Healing Breeze on Enemy B. Spell fails and you gain 14 energy.

Mar 01, 2006, 10:34 PM // 22:34	#4
onyo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006	k... you both said the opposite lol. which is correct?

Mar 01, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31	#5
RaabTheGuru Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southern California Guild: Wizards Anomyous [WoA] Profession: N/Me	Come on its not that hard. Guilt: If you cast it on a foe, the next time that foe uses a spell that targets someone other than his ally, the spell fails and you gain 14 energy. Shame: If you cast it on a foe, the next time that foe uses a skill that targets an ally of his, the spell fails and you gain 14 energy. Just read the skill description slowly, it's not that difficult.

Mar 01, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35	#6
Kinroan Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Newport, NC USA Guild: ANT Profession: N/Me	no...they both said the same thing...Raab just broke it down...

Mar 01, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38	#7
Caged Fury Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Hearts Of Fury [HoF]	I think it's from the caster's (i.e. your) perspective. Guilt stops enemies from casting spells that would hurt you or your allies. So for Guilt, it's...For 11 seconds, the next time target foe (e.g. a Storm Kin) casts a Spell that targets a foe (you or your party members being the Storm Kin's foe), etc. Shame stops enemies from casting spells that would heal, protect, or enchant their allies. So for Shame, it's...For 11 seconds, the next time target foe (e.g. Priest of Sorrows) casts a Spell that targets an ally (e.g. his nasty axe weilding Summit Deep Knight buddy), etc. Clear as crystal or clear as mud?

Mar 02, 2006, 09:56 PM // 21:56	#9
onyo Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2006	k thanks. was confusing