Chkkr isnt droping green - Guild Wars Forums

Destro Maniak · Oct 01, 2006, 08:45 AM // 08:45

I am using W/N sskai sword farmer build at Chhkr Locust Lord. Fight takes about 1.5 minutes and I win the battle, but I never looted Chhkrs Pincers. It can't be because I didn't killed him enought to loot them. I am killing him for past 1 week, should killed him over 50 times and the best thing he drop was a heros insight xp scrool. What is the chance of getting green drop?

Anarion Silverhand · Oct 01, 2006, 09:45 AM // 09:45

I hate to ask, but are you bringing hencmen?

If not, you'll just have to keep killing him. The drops are completely random.

Destro Maniak · Oct 01, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54

of course killing him alone

Minus Sign · Oct 01, 2006, 10:02 AM // 10:02

Farm him when your country has favor. This increases drop ratios for you. Also, don't farm back to back (anti-farming code kicks in and he stops dropping anything).

lastly: keep at it. Some people have farmed bosses nearly a hundred times and complained about no drops. he may be overfarmed atm; wait for a special event where people are in PvP or idling all their time in LA or the temple or somewhere.

EX: Drops were insane during the Dragon Festival

Destro Maniak · Oct 01, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

I cant understand why there is anti farm because the game is absulutely grind based.

I dont care what people say. This game is grind based and every MMORPG is grind based, if it wasn't every warrior would have kurzick 15k dyed black, osidian ranger armor, water design ascetic... But why is anti farm.

Then a-net should put more options at earning money.

**Marty Silverblade** · Oct 01, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27

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Originally Posted by Destro Maniak

I cant understand why there is anti farm because the game is absulutely grind based.

I dont care what people say. This game is grind based and every MMORPG is grind based, if it wasn't every warrior would have kurzick 15k dyed black, osidian ranger armor, water design ascetic... But why is anti farm.

Then a-net should put more options at earning money.

I have a few things to say in response to your post.

1) Anet doesn't really have much of a problem with farming, it's just when people exploit bugs, farm an area that gives too much money (therefore getting a large advantage over people who don't farm. This as you probably know leads to nerfing). In fact, I think some Anet person, I think it was Gaile, that said they have no problem with farmers. If they want to farm, then let them. It's just bots they're against. So it's really an anti-botting code.

2) GW is not grind based, due to the level cap. A group of people have proved that it's possible to finish the game with no farming

, white non-max weapons

, non-max armor

, and undyed armor

. It's just other people who make you feel like you need that req 7 fellblade, 15k armor and everything dyed black.

Amity and Truth · Oct 01, 2006, 10:38 AM // 10:38

The lootsystem is completely wack since NPE.
1) random system is broken.
2) loot is currently ultranerfed for everyone, could be a follow up of 1 though.

Destro Maniak · Oct 01, 2006, 10:38 AM // 10:38

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

2) GW is not grind based, due to the level cap. A group of people have proved that it's possible to finish the game without no farming

, white non-max weapons

, non-max armor

, and undyed armor

. It's just other people who make you feel like you need that req 7 fellblade, 15k armor and everything dyed black.

I dont say anything like it isn't possible to finish game with black dyed armor or obsidian armor. But the game offers us these armors and there is only 1 but only 1 way to get them. To farm. Finishing the whole factions just give us about 25k(trading amulet of the mists) Completing the whole chain:c

nfused: 25k is just leggings of kurzick 15k warrior(I am going to get kurzick 15k warrior nearly done) Then the game isn't saying us: "Complete game with collector armor and weapons.", as they have expensive armors. And I dont think they are needed(low damage fellblade I have one with req13), just want them because they look good. If should't get those 15k armors why a-net put them into game. This is like saying: "I don't need house, I can live at a cave. I don't need good clothes, in a closed area I won't get cold. I dont need to hunt, I can eat grass...We don't neighter need computer nor games to survive. They are just for fun. And don't think that I am uber rich that got lots of money from farming and now want to try out new ways of earning money. I am 55ing trolls and still I couldn't got boots and gaunlets. The only thing makes me play the game is to have goals because I dont like PvP much.

Ondo · Oct 01, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46

First - Boss drops are random and some do stink. Just keep going, but take a break every now and then and have that character do a mission or quest, then go back.

I do not like PvP either. There are other goals that will get you money other than farming. Two off the top of my head - Protector of [Cantha/Tyria] I usually get close to 1k (per try) from the missions just trying to get Masters/Mission & Bonus. Another, Grand Master Cartographer of [Cantha/Tyria] lots of fights when uncovering 100% of map. I have two accounts with 7 characters on each and half have 15k armor. I hardly ever farm to get the money or materials I need. Also, check you materials inventory. Do you really need all those materials. (Unless your goal is to have 250 of every item) I sell off any material item that my characters will not need.

dargon · Oct 01, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by Minus Sign

Farm him when your country has favor. This increases drop ratios for you. Also, don't farm back to back (anti-farming code kicks in and he stops dropping anything).

lastly: keep at it. Some people have farmed bosses nearly a hundred times and complained about no drops. he may be overfarmed atm; wait for a special event where people are in PvP or idling all their time in LA or the temple or somewhere.

EX: Drops were insane during the Dragon Festival

BOTH of the above beliefs are complete and utter BS

1) whether or not an area has favor has ZERO impact on drops
2) whether or not a large number of people are doing the same thing in their own instance has ZERO effect on drops, this would kind of negate the idea of having your OWN instance

The drop system is 100% random, sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't.

Destro Maniak · Oct 01, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18

I hate this favor thing

I think I am going to leave europe servers and change to america because europe has favor for very short time periods. I only have seen europe keep favor for long time was few days ago.

GODh · Oct 01, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28

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Originally Posted by Destro Maniak

I hate this favor thing

I think I am going to leave europe servers and change to america because europe has favor for very short time periods. I only have seen europe keep favor for long time was few days ago.

I think that is a bad idea as Europe seems to have favor much longer than America (there are tons of USA players playing on Euro servers because of this)

Former Ruling · Oct 01, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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2) whether or not a large number of people are doing the same thing in their own instance has ZERO effect on drops, this would kind of negate the idea of having your OWN instance

It is statistically proven though that average drop rates for highly farmed/prized Factions bosses (Sskai, Ghial, etc) greens are much lower than less desired or harder to farm bosses.

Though noone knows whether it is BECAUSE of the Overfarming by others (Ie: the game lowers droprate when more people farm), or whether it is a RESULT of it (Ie: Anet "nerfing" the drop rate of the better and more farmed greens).

But either way, the outcome is the same.

Athena99 · Oct 01, 2006, 07:33 PM // 19:33

ive gotten about 4 pairs of pincers in the last week or so

Thock · Oct 01, 2006, 08:25 PM // 20:25

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Originally Posted by Minus Sign

Farm him when your country has favor. This increases drop ratios for you. Also, don't farm back to back (anti-farming code kicks in and he stops dropping anything).

lastly: keep at it. Some people have farmed bosses nearly a hundred times and complained about no drops. he may be overfarmed atm; wait for a special event where people are in PvP or idling all their time in LA or the temple or somewhere.

EX: Drops were insane during the Dragon Festival

I havent kept track of favor when farming but, I have noticed considerably better drops when I farm during non peak times. For example my drops are better when I farm at 4am EST then when I farm at 8pm EST. This is a trend I noticed a long time ago as well, like before the AoE nerf. Back then I farmed Griffons, and during non peak times I could get 1-3 golds a run consistantly. If I farmed during peak time when everyone is on I would get one gold about every three runs. As far as I can tell this hasnt changed, though I rarely get to farm late at night anymore.

Franco · Oct 01, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

Erm.... Why are you farming that boss ? lol waste of time.

And Bosses dont drop much because they are over farmed. Its normal even if you done 30 runs, there are a lot of people in same situations.

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other people who make you feel like you need that req 7 fellblade, 15k armor and everything dyed black.

Those are goals, some people enjoy playing the game to get those ^^. they having fun, its not to make you think they are better then people that dont have those. Each individual enjoys the game the way he wants.

Cebe · Oct 02, 2006, 08:40 AM // 08:40

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Originally Posted by Franco

And Bosses dont drop much because they are over farmed. Its normal even if you done 30 runs, there are a lot of people in same situations.

Yeah, tell me about it. I have been going for The Windcatcher for ages now, from Rahse Windcatcher in Mourning Veil Falls. Because he's so close to Durheim Archives he must be overfarmed. I've tried hium for a few weeks now and nothing. I'm not trying to get it because I want to sell it, I'm trying to get it for myself to use. So so frustrating. I refuse to buy it for 15-20k when I could potentially get it for myself for nothing...just before anyone else suggests "just buy it".

I guess that's life. I suggest the OP goes for a different boss...unless you want them for yourself. I tried Amadis, Wind of the Sea up to 30 times before he game me his staff.

Anarion Silverhand · Oct 02, 2006, 12:42 PM // 12:42

To my knowledge, which region holds the favor has to effect on the drops, whatsoever.

Dauntless · Oct 02, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

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Originally Posted by Amity and Truth

The lootsystem is completely wack since NPE.
1) random system is broken.
2) loot is currently ultranerfed for everyone, could be a follow up of 1 though.

Ultranerfed?
I farm Byzzr Wingmender for his Byzzr's Benediction. I've gotten 5 this week alone. My drops seem the same as they've always been when I farm hydras. And chest runs are better than they've ever been for me. So to say they are ultranerfed for everyone is going a bit far imo. The drop system doesnt seem broken, it seems pretty normal to me.

RTSFirebat · Oct 02, 2006, 01:22 PM // 13:22

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Originally Posted by Minus Sign

Farm him when your country has favor. This increases drop ratios for you. Also, don't farm back to back (anti-farming code kicks in and he stops dropping anything).

That is completely rubbish and simply not true at all.

Which country has the favor has nothing to do with drops, how often things drop, or when things drop AND what drops.

I don't know why people continue to believe this is true, because its not!

Lets get some a few things straight:

1. Drops are random. When and if you get them is pure luck.
2. Having the favor has nothing to do with drops.
3. Drops become less when bots and people overfarm them.
4. Drops become less if you do the same run over and over again. This also reduces the chance of a green dropping.

Oct 01, 2006, 08:45 AM // 08:45	#1
Destro Maniak Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: A/	Chkkr isnt droping green I am using W/N sskai sword farmer build at Chhkr Locust Lord. Fight takes about 1.5 minutes and I win the battle, but I never looted Chhkrs Pincers. It can't be because I didn't killed him enought to loot them. I am killing him for past 1 week, should killed him over 50 times and the best thing he drop was a heros insight xp scrool. What is the chance of getting green drop?

Oct 01, 2006, 10:02 AM // 10:02	#4
Minus Sign Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: Mo/N	Farm him when your country has favor. This increases drop ratios for you. Also, don't farm back to back (anti-farming code kicks in and he stops dropping anything). lastly: keep at it. Some people have farmed bosses nearly a hundred times and complained about no drops. he may be overfarmed atm; wait for a special event where people are in PvP or idling all their time in LA or the temple or somewhere. EX: Drops were insane during the Dragon Festival Last edited by Minus Sign; Oct 01, 2006 at 10:06 AM // 10:06..

Oct 01, 2006, 09:45 AM // 09:45	#2
Anarion Silverhand Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Denmark Guild: None	I hate to ask, but are you bringing hencmen? If not, you'll just have to keep killing him. The drops are completely random.

Oct 01, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54	#3
Destro Maniak Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: A/	of course killing him alone

Oct 01, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15	#5
Destro Maniak Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: A/	I cant understand why there is anti farm because the game is absulutely grind based. I dont care what people say. This game is grind based and every MMORPG is grind based, if it wasn't every warrior would have kurzick 15k dyed black, osidian ranger armor, water design ascetic... But why is anti farm. Then a-net should put more options at earning money.

Oct 01, 2006, 10:38 AM // 10:38	#7
Amity and Truth Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2006 Profession: W/N	The lootsystem is completely wack since NPE. 1) random system is broken. 2) loot is currently ultranerfed for everyone, could be a follow up of 1 though.

Oct 01, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46	#9
Ondo Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: USA Guild: Heavenly Shadows [milf] Profession: W/R	First - Boss drops are random and some do stink. Just keep going, but take a break every now and then and have that character do a mission or quest, then go back. I do not like PvP either. There are other goals that will get you money other than farming. Two off the top of my head - Protector of [Cantha/Tyria] I usually get close to 1k (per try) from the missions just trying to get Masters/Mission & Bonus. Another, Grand Master Cartographer of [Cantha/Tyria] lots of fights when uncovering 100% of map. I have two accounts with 7 characters on each and half have 15k armor. I hardly ever farm to get the money or materials I need. Also, check you materials inventory. Do you really need all those materials. (Unless your goal is to have 250 of every item) I sell off any material item that my characters will not need.

Oct 01, 2006, 04:18 PM // 16:18	#11
Destro Maniak Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: A/	I hate this favor thing I think I am going to leave europe servers and change to america because europe has favor for very short time periods. I only have seen europe keep favor for long time was few days ago.

Oct 01, 2006, 07:33 PM // 19:33	#14
Athena99 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: NPR Profession: A/	ive gotten about 4 pairs of pincers in the last week or so

Oct 02, 2006, 12:42 PM // 12:42	#18
Anarion Silverhand Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Denmark Guild: None	To my knowledge, which region holds the favor has to effect on the drops, whatsoever.