There Should Be Something To Prevent This - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Kusandaa · Jan 26, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34

Heh, I more or less know how to phrase this, I've been redoing this post for half an hour now...

But my point in demotion was that it would at least taught him that such thing was unacceptable for an officer. If he's not suited to be one, he's NOT suited to be one, period. Sometimes you have to stop being the friend and take your dad/mom voice and say "I didn't promote you officer to let this happen. I'll demote you because this is what I feel is right for my guild, but you won't get kicked until we talked this issue over."

Of course the average player will take it as "he doesn't trust me anymore therefore he doesn't like me therefore I'll quit!" rather than "he's right, I've done something bad here..." but if he reacts as the first, I say he wasn't suited to be an officer.

Little story on demotion: A short while ago, we had an officer asking to be demoted because he hadn't been very active due to IRL things; the leader gave him the go, he stayed as a member for a few days, then left to make his own guild, who joined our alliance to stay in touch. They're two members (a guildie followed him) and those two are coming back after the school year. The leader then found another officer, someone who we completely trust and won't have troubles with (grats on promotion BTW - I know he's on guru =P).

As for the guy coming back as an officer, I don't know. But IMHO being an officer also implies that you can accept the fact you're NOT suited anymore...

Sorry if it didn't make sense, I get too many ideas at times =.=

Nymph of Meliai · Feb 03, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29

I am the same as cellardweller - everyone is an officer means everyone can recruit and nobody can kick but me. Only one trouble with all officer guilds and that is everyone can do gvg - if you have a lot of newish players this can destroy your rank if you care about it. But if you are like us and just out there to have fun and not take things that seriously then it is fine.

I sometimes put trustworthy guildies as leader if I have some rl things to take care of but they are always people who have been members a long time and I can trust

Div · Feb 13, 2007, 11:36 AM // 11:36

There's no need for privilege-giving to officers. Officers should only be promoted if they're trusted enough with the people's membership...it's why guilds that operate under "first 5 that join are officers" never work out

{BHC}KingWarman88 · Feb 15, 2007, 03:28 AM // 03:28

Hey,

sucks man. I saw it happen to a guild I join back in the Summer on Nightfall. I was a Level 8 Warrior/Necromancer, and I joined this one guild, and I was made a officer along with this one guy. The Guy kicked everyone, and I mean Everyone in the guild Expect for us of course, then he left, but he sucked up to the leader before hand, and said I (me) threated him to do it, even though I never did then I got kicked..

I know how it feels a bit..

Just take a pic of the roster and re-invte them..

wilderness · Feb 19, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

There is something to prevent this.. it's called good judgment and common sense. You should only make friends or trusted players have any kind of privilege in your guild.

Anet cant hold your hand all the way through the game. Learn your lesson and re-invite your members.

trexrea · Feb 21, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

I know the responses I will get right off the top... Watch who you promote, but the first time this happened to me I was careless, never knew something like this would happen in a game created for fun, when it happened I was amazed. My Guild [REA] worked together and got the Guild twice the size it was before the Sabotage incident. About 2 months later, an Officer who was getting into trouble; got demoted, but all my officers were not on at the time. He went to each Officer asking to be promoted again saying - I said it was OK, until he found one that did promote him. He imeddiatly kicked out 45ppl from Our Guild. There was no way for my officers to demote him; all they could do is invite the ppl back as soon as he kicked them out. I immediately wrote to A-Net, there response was quick and skillful. However, I can not get the point accross to A-Net, that the Guild Leaders should be able to appoint privledges to certain Officers such as being able to kick ppl out, Promote, and Demote. I am happy to say we have rebuild again to 97members and the same officers we had before the Second Sabotage, and about 1/2 the Original Officers.

My Learning Lesson was... I hold Bi-Weekly Officer meetings and Daily Communications with any and all members that are on while I am on.

Members muct be part of the Guild at least 1 month and participate in ALL [REA] events to have a chance to become an Officer (If a spot is even available)

50% of the Officers must give there approval for someone to become an officer....

BTW please forgive my spelling... As my Guild knows I AM a Horrible Speller

Feb 21, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50	#26
trexrea Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Phoenix AZ Guild: Revenged Enmity Army Profession: P/R	I feel for you, it happened to me also TWICE I know the responses I will get right off the top... Watch who you promote, but the first time this happened to me I was careless, never knew something like this would happen in a game created for fun, when it happened I was amazed. My Guild [REA] worked together and got the Guild twice the size it was before the Sabotage incident. About 2 months later, an Officer who was getting into trouble; got demoted, but all my officers were not on at the time. He went to each Officer asking to be promoted again saying - I said it was OK, until he found one that did promote him. He imeddiatly kicked out 45ppl from Our Guild. There was no way for my officers to demote him; all they could do is invite the ppl back as soon as he kicked them out. I immediately wrote to A-Net, there response was quick and skillful. However, I can not get the point accross to A-Net, that the Guild Leaders should be able to appoint privledges to certain Officers such as being able to kick ppl out, Promote, and Demote. I am happy to say we have rebuild again to 97members and the same officers we had before the Second Sabotage, and about 1/2 the Original Officers. My Learning Lesson was... I hold Bi-Weekly Officer meetings and Daily Communications with any and all members that are on while I am on. Members muct be part of the Guild at least 1 month and participate in ALL [REA] events to have a chance to become an Officer (If a spot is even available) 50% of the Officers must give there approval for someone to become an officer.... BTW please forgive my spelling... As my Guild knows I AM a Horrible Speller

Jan 26, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34	#21
Kusandaa Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: N/Mo	Heh, I more or less know how to phrase this, I've been redoing this post for half an hour now... But my point in demotion was that it would at least taught him that such thing was unacceptable for an officer. If he's not suited to be one, he's NOT suited to be one, period. Sometimes you have to stop being the friend and take your dad/mom voice and say "I didn't promote you officer to let this happen. I'll demote you because this is what I feel is right for my guild, but you won't get kicked until we talked this issue over." Of course the average player will take it as "he doesn't trust me anymore therefore he doesn't like me therefore I'll quit!" rather than "he's right, I've done something bad here..." but if he reacts as the first, I say he wasn't suited to be an officer. Little story on demotion: A short while ago, we had an officer asking to be demoted because he hadn't been very active due to IRL things; the leader gave him the go, he stayed as a member for a few days, then left to make his own guild, who joined our alliance to stay in touch. They're two members (a guildie followed him) and those two are coming back after the school year. The leader then found another officer, someone who we completely trust and won't have troubles with (grats on promotion BTW - I know he's on guru =P). As for the guy coming back as an officer, I don't know. But IMHO being an officer also implies that you can accept the fact you're NOT suited anymore... Sorry if it didn't make sense, I get too many ideas at times =.=

Feb 03, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29	#22
Nymph of Meliai Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Guild: The Mirror Of Reason [SNOW] Profession: R/Mo	I am the same as cellardweller - everyone is an officer means everyone can recruit and nobody can kick but me. Only one trouble with all officer guilds and that is everyone can do gvg - if you have a lot of newish players this can destroy your rank if you care about it. But if you are like us and just out there to have fun and not take things that seriously then it is fine. I sometimes put trustworthy guildies as leader if I have some rl things to take care of but they are always people who have been members a long time and I can trust

Feb 13, 2007, 11:36 AM // 11:36	#23
Div I like yumy food! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where I can eat yumy food Guild: Dead Alley [dR] Profession: Mo/R	There's no need for privilege-giving to officers. Officers should only be promoted if they're trusted enough with the people's membership...it's why guilds that operate under "first 5 that join are officers" never work out

Feb 15, 2007, 03:28 AM // 03:28	#24
{BHC}KingWarman88 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Castle 2_5_2 SwissLand Guild: BHC Profession: W/N	Hey, sucks man. I saw it happen to a guild I join back in the Summer on Nightfall. I was a Level 8 Warrior/Necromancer, and I joined this one guild, and I was made a officer along with this one guy. The Guy kicked everyone, and I mean Everyone in the guild Expect for us of course, then he left, but he sucked up to the leader before hand, and said I (me) threated him to do it, even though I never did then I got kicked.. I know how it feels a bit.. Just take a pic of the roster and re-invte them..

Feb 19, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26	#25
wilderness tinyurl.com/6hqar7a Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: We Couldn't Figure Out A Name [LMAO] Profession: W/N	There is something to prevent this.. it's called good judgment and common sense. You should only make friends or trusted players have any kind of privilege in your guild. Anet cant hold your hand all the way through the game. Learn your lesson and re-invite your members.