Question about buying (or given) a used copy of Factions & Nightfall... - Guild Wars Forums

Rolland · Oct 22, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

Hi Guys,

I know a person who will basically give me his copies of these Expansions, he no longer plays.

I've actually just began messing with my old original copy (Prophecies)...my question is, will they connect to my existing account or would I have to worry about any Key issues.

If I need to buy brand new copies that's fine...this was just a good opportunity if it would work and my account be safe

Would appreciate any advice or info!

Thanks for the help!

btw - I will have the discs and existing keys, this is not a loan type situation

NoXiFy · Oct 22, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Don't take them.

You will get banned. -_-

Windstriker · Oct 22, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

If he has already used the keys then you will NOT be able to connect them to your existing accounts nor can Anet connect them for you. If you want to add another product to your account, you'll have to buy a new one and add it with a brand new key.

Malice Black · Oct 22, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by NoXiFy

Don't take them.

You will get banned. -_-

Don't be daft. I've been given two accounts over the past 2+ years and I've never been banned.

NoXiFy · Oct 22, 2007, 08:10 PM // 20:10

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

Don't be daft. I've been given two accounts over the past 2+ years and I've never been banned.

I hope you get banned tonight.

My second account was banned because it was given to me. Which is really annoying because he was m neighbor and had 2 total playing hours... cause he didn't like the game.

Malice Black · Oct 22, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoXiFy

I hope you get banned tonight.

My second account was banned because it was given to me. Which is really annoying because he was m neighbor and had 2 total playing hours... cause he didn't like the game.

If they do they do..I don't care tbh

Mordakai · Oct 22, 2007, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoXiFy

I hope you get banned tonight.

My second account was banned because it was given to me. Which is really annoying because he was m neighbor and had 2 total playing hours... cause he didn't like the game.

Question: How did anet find out?

Malice Black · Oct 22, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33

Fair question...

I know quite a few people running 2nd or 3rd accounts that were given to them..they are still around.

Brianna · Oct 22, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Psh, everyone has second/third accounts that were given to them, It's a vain threat to say you *will* be banned.

On topic, don't really have enough info to answer your question whole heartedly, I guess just go by what is mentioned.

Karyuu · Oct 22, 2007, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by Windstriker

If he has already used the keys then you will NOT be able to connect them to your existing accounts nor can Anet connect them for you. If you want to add another product to your account, you'll have to buy a new one and add it with a brand new key.

This is definitely the case. If the keys were used/activated, you won't be able to add them to another already existing account. So someone giving you Nightfall, for example, is basically giving you a separate NF-only account. You won't be able to combine it with your Prophecies game.

Rolland · Oct 22, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10

Ok, that's too bad...but better to be safe than sorry I suppose

I'll pick up the new copies then.

Regards & Good Hunting!

Molock · Oct 22, 2007, 09:15 PM // 21:15

I know a dude that has been playing on an account he was given for 2 years now... I don't know why anet would ban him.

Smile Like Umean It · Oct 22, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoXiFy

I hope you get banned tonight.

My second account was banned because it was given to me. Which is really annoying because he was m neighbor and had 2 total playing hours... cause he didn't like the game.

Someone sounds bitter.

Accepting an account doesn't mean you will definitely get banned either. Hell, I doubt they'd actually do anything, including help, if you went and told them about it.

iridescentfyre · Oct 22, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolland

Hi Guys,

I know a person who will basically give me his copies of these Expansions, he no longer plays.

I've actually just began messing with my old original copy (Prophecies)...my question is, will they connect to my existing account or would I have to worry about any Key issues.

If I need to buy brand new copies that's fine...this was just a good opportunity if it would work and my account be safe

Would appreciate any advice or info!

Thanks for the help!

btw - I will have the discs and existing keys, this is not a loan type situation

If your friend already added the access keys to his own account, you'll need his account name and password. If that's the case, those copies of the games are forever linked to his account and having the discs/paper copy of the key doesn't matter at all. It will just say the access key is already in use.

If he never used the keys, however, lucky you.

gremlin · Oct 22, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Since it appears to be a grey area why not ask the people who know the answer, and thats certainly not us players.

I know they do not like the idea of people selling accounts and if they say someone can give an account then everyone who buys one will say it was a gift.

If I bought a new copy and set it up then didnt play it for a while later reinstalled it on a new computer using a new isp with new email address and changed everything to work with the new computer.

Wouldnt that appear to be the same online effect as it being a new player.

As I say grey area really depends how the games company feel about such things.
Morally your on good ground assuming all is as you say, probably legally too but if the games company decided to ban you it would be a pretty long and expensive option to change it.

Go talk to them in fact why not get the person who gave it to you to email them that should confirm the situation.

*Darcy* · Oct 23, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

Anyone in doubt about the rules should read the EULA. It is all broken out in sections at http://www.guildwars.com/support/legal

As ANet is a a "for profit" company, they would automatically discourage anything that cut into that profit. Also, I remember almost a year of constant complaints from the community about hacked accounts and players buying accounts which were then reclaimed by the original owner.

So, ANet's policy is very firm. No transfer of ownership allowed. Violations result in blocking of all accounts owned by player(s) involved.

This might seem harsh, but the cost to the company for the hours spent trying to determine who was lying and who was just stupid must have been enormous. If you don't bring it to their "official" notice by contacting support about it, expecting them to help you break the EULA, you could most likely use the account with no problem, just not linked.

Yang Whirlwind · Oct 23, 2007, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Darcy has the right of this - only take over friends (trust!) accounts as the previous owner can reclaim it (if you complain all involved accounts will be banned).

A ton of people I know have accounts they have taken over from friends who no longer play - they have not been banned, and i expect,- never will!

Rolland · Oct 25, 2007, 03:36 AM // 03:36

Well I bought Nightfall today and love it, have a lvl 4 1/2 Paragon so far

I just felt better about it, plus I wanted to attach it to my original account/key.

Now I can use the Hero/s to help my Main finish up Prophecies

It's a win/win for me and ArenaNet heh

Plus I've decided to get both Factions and EotN(for when i finally have a lvl 20)...what can I say I'm a completest

Thank you all for your advice and information!

Oct 22, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32	#1
Rolland Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2007 Profession: W/Mo	Question about buying (or given) a used copy of Factions & Nightfall... Hi Guys, I know a person who will basically give me his copies of these Expansions, he no longer plays. I've actually just began messing with my old original copy (Prophecies)...my question is, will they connect to my existing account or would I have to worry about any Key issues. If I need to buy brand new copies that's fine...this was just a good opportunity if it would work and my account be safe Would appreciate any advice or info! Thanks for the help! btw - I will have the discs and existing keys, this is not a loan type situation Last edited by Rolland; Oct 22, 2007 at 07:39 PM // 19:39..

Oct 22, 2007, 08:33 PM // 20:33	#8
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	Fair question... I know quite a few people running 2nd or 3rd accounts that were given to them..they are still around. __________________ Old Skool '05

Oct 23, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55	#16
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Anyone in doubt about the rules should read the EULA. It is all broken out in sections at http://www.guildwars.com/support/legal As ANet is a a "for profit" company, they would automatically discourage anything that cut into that profit. Also, I remember almost a year of constant complaints from the community about hacked accounts and players buying accounts which were then reclaimed by the original owner. So, ANet's policy is very firm. No transfer of ownership allowed. Violations result in blocking of all accounts owned by player(s) involved. This might seem harsh, but the cost to the company for the hours spent trying to determine who was lying and who was just stupid must have been enormous. If you don't bring it to their "official" notice by contacting support about it, expecting them to help you break the EULA, you could most likely use the account with no problem, just not linked. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Oct 22, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52	#2
NoXiFy Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★ Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO] Profession: Mo/Me	Don't take them. You will get banned. -_-

Oct 22, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01	#3
Windstriker Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Missouri Guild: The Torrencians Profession: R/	If he has already used the keys then you will NOT be able to connect them to your existing accounts nor can Anet connect them for you. If you want to add another product to your account, you'll have to buy a new one and add it with a brand new key.

Oct 22, 2007, 08:36 PM // 20:36	#9
Brianna Insane & Inhumane Join Date: Feb 2006	Psh, everyone has second/third accounts that were given to them, It's a vain threat to say you will be banned. On topic, don't really have enough info to answer your question whole heartedly, I guess just go by what is mentioned.

Oct 22, 2007, 09:10 PM // 21:10	#11
Rolland Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2007 Profession: W/Mo	Ok, that's too bad...but better to be safe than sorry I suppose I'll pick up the new copies then. Regards & Good Hunting!

Oct 22, 2007, 09:15 PM // 21:15	#12
Molock Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Qu??bec Guild: Legacy of Angels [Halo] Profession: E/	I know a dude that has been playing on an account he was given for 2 years now... I don't know why anet would ban him.

Oct 22, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17	#15
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	Since it appears to be a grey area why not ask the people who know the answer, and thats certainly not us players. I know they do not like the idea of people selling accounts and if they say someone can give an account then everyone who buys one will say it was a gift. If I bought a new copy and set it up then didnt play it for a while later reinstalled it on a new computer using a new isp with new email address and changed everything to work with the new computer. Wouldnt that appear to be the same online effect as it being a new player. As I say grey area really depends how the games company feel about such things. Morally your on good ground assuming all is as you say, probably legally too but if the games company decided to ban you it would be a pretty long and expensive option to change it. Go talk to them in fact why not get the person who gave it to you to email them that should confirm the situation.

Oct 23, 2007, 02:47 PM // 14:47	#17
Yang Whirlwind ~ Retired ~ Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark (GMT +1) Profession: E/	Darcy has the right of this - only take over friends (trust!) accounts as the previous owner can reclaim it (if you complain all involved accounts will be banned). A ton of people I know have accounts they have taken over from friends who no longer play - they have not been banned, and i expect,- never will!

Oct 25, 2007, 03:36 AM // 03:36	#18
Rolland Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2007 Profession: W/Mo	Well I bought Nightfall today and love it, have a lvl 4 1/2 Paragon so far I just felt better about it, plus I wanted to attach it to my original account/key. Now I can use the Hero/s to help my Main finish up Prophecies It's a win/win for me and ArenaNet heh Plus I've decided to get both Factions and EotN(for when i finally have a lvl 20)...what can I say I'm a completest Thank you all for your advice and information!